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How dare that man in his rage and furor not consider the consequences his actions will have on gender politics?
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If you have a rebuttal, post it instead of grandstanding and slinging insults. You don't get to shut down discussion just because it's threatening to your worldview.
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Feb 3, 2018 22:55
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cis autodrag posted:If you have a rebuttal, post it instead of grandstanding and slinging insults. You don't get to shut down discussion just because it's threatening to your worldview. A rebuttal was already posted, idiot. You're the one shutting down legitimate discussion by having the dumbest possible opinion, and insisting on a stupid detail of nonsense.
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cis autodrag posted:If you have a rebuttal, post it instead of grandstanding and slinging insults. You don't get to shut down discussion just because it's threatening to your worldview. I've got bad news for you, but it's universally understood in law that emotions exist and are a real thing that people act on, which even factors into sentencing and the like. I'm not cheering on for people to lynch Nassar, but not understanding why a guy wants to assault the man who molested his daughter under ostensibly his care is some serious lack of empathy. You're attributing to social hierarchy what is a natural human condition.
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Feb 3, 2018 23:06
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It is also understood in law that we have a responsibility to suppress our emotions and maintain a dignified standard of conduct. Charging Father was upset when he heard his daughters speak. I empathize with him, it’s a horrible thing to go through. But he had time to reflect. He planned his actions. He asked the judge for permission to attack Nassar. The judge said “No.” He asked the judge again. She said “NO” again. Then he willfully ignores her and violently attacks. Can you not see how awful that is, particularly in the context of this case? It is possible to have empathy for Charging Father, but still vehemently disapprove of his conduct and be unwilling to excuse it. He fell short of the standard the law requires. Hundreds of other fathers in this case went through the same thing he went through, without attacking the convict.
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Feb 3, 2018 23:24
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runoverbobby posted:It is also understood in law that we have a responsibility to suppress our emotions and maintain a dignified standard of conduct. I've always just seen the headline and never knew he was asking for permission to attack, that adds a level of dumb premeditiation to it. It's still just as well he wasn't charged with anything, but that does change things, yeah.
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Feb 3, 2018 23:41
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swickles posted:How dare that man in his rage and furor not consider the consequences his actions will have on gender politics? And in this thread making GBS threads on a man for his horrible actions, we see someone further on that side come in to tell everyone why they're also wrong. The left truly loving does eat itself alive.
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Feb 3, 2018 23:54
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runoverbobby posted:It is also understood in law that we have a responsibility to suppress our emotions and maintain a dignified standard of conduct.
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iwentdoodie posted:And in this thread making GBS threads on a man for his horrible actions, we see someone further on that side come in to tell everyone why they're also wrong. *nods*
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Feb 4, 2018 00:01
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If only there were more warning signs that Larry Nassar might be a pedophile.quote:Larry Nassar boasted that people called him "the body whisperer" because of his close connections with his patients, according to a 2014 police report. quote:Nassar said this was a normal procedure that he performed on everyone, whether 10 years old or 84 years old, according to the police report. He brought his computer to the police interview and showed the detective videos in which he performs the procedure, which he claimed could fix any number of physical injuries. https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/us/larry-nassar-police-interview/index.html
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AsInHowe posted:If only there were more warning signs that Larry Nassar might be a pedophile.
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Crazy Ted posted:Well OF loving COURSE the pehophile also turned out to be a Trekkie. As soon as the Star Trek slides came up on Nassar's presentation, the officers should've arrested him from there. It's the smoking gun.
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Probably Magic posted:I've got bad news for you, but it's universally understood in law that emotions exist and are a real thing that people act on, which even factors into sentencing and the like. It is understandable, and I can't comprehend his pain, let alone the pain of his daughters, but I would note that hundreds of women have made statements in court against Nassar without it even being considered that they might fly into a violent rage, and it's worth thinking about why they didn't, and why he did. I won't condemn him for it, because I don't know how I'd do in the same circumstances, but I am irritated by all the people online saying "This guy's a great Dad" or "he did what a Dad should", because I think that's a toxic attitude. We shoudn't lionize guys who fly into violent rages, even if it is directed at the world's most deserving target.
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Crazy Ted posted:Well OF loving COURSE the pehophile also turned out to be a Trekkie. "use the force"
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Not all trekkies are pedophiles, but all pedophiles are trekkies
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General Dog posted:Not all trekkies are pedophiles, but all pedophiles are trekkies  sad but true.
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... I see then. But I don't particularly see how this is relevant to the topic at hand (outside of him showing creepy videos).
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iospace posted:... I see then. But I don't particularly see how this is relevant to the topic at hand (outside of him showing creepy videos). They're referencing some old FBI report about how the FBI's sex crimes against children unit found star trek fan stuff at basically every offenders house and on their computers. It was so consistent that they were completely at a loss to explain it.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:They're referencing some old FBI report about how the FBI's sex crimes against children unit found star trek fan stuff at basically every offenders house and on their computers. It was so consistent that they were completely at a loss to explain it. Yeah, basically they were trying build a profile and "Star Trek fan" was one box that was overwhelmingly ticked. I think they even tried to adjust for certain things and even then they couldn't explain it as anything other than "well, if you like diddling kids you are gonna love Kirk vs. Picard debates too".
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Feb 5, 2018 22:13
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This might end up being something. Apparently the Notre Dame AD advised USA gymnastics.quote:Two former USA Gymnastics presidents have cited a longtime power player in Indiana sports as one of the key people involved in advising USA Gymnastics on policies related to sexual abuse: Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick. I am also glad the guy punched Nassar and hope Nassar gets shived in prison.
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Feb 5, 2018 22:31
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Niwrad posted:This might end up being something. Apparently the Notre Dame AD advised USA gymnastics. I was talking to a guy with ND ties just this weekend and he mentioned how the whole university is hoping nobody notices the ties Swarbrick has to USA Gymnastics and Nasser.
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howe_sam posted:I was talking to a guy with ND ties just this weekend and he mentioned how the whole university is hoping nobody notices the ties Swarbrick has to USA Gymnastics and Nasser. Glad to see other institutions have learned nothing from this. Burn college athletics to the ground.
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Feb 5, 2018 22:57
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cis autodrag posted:Glad to see other institutions have learned nothing from this. Burn college athletics to the ground. Meanwhile they'll die before they start paying students something for their efforts
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swickles posted:Yeah, basically they were trying build a profile and "Star Trek fan" was one box that was overwhelmingly ticked. I think they even tried to adjust for certain things and even then they couldn't explain it as anything other than "well, if you like diddling kids you are gonna love Kirk vs. Picard debates too". Holy poo poo, you weren't kidding. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-ladowsky/pedophilia-and-star-trek_b_5857.html
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Niwrad posted:This might end up being something. Apparently the Notre Dame AD advised USA gymnastics. Good thing Notre Dame doesn't have any notorious athletic department sex scandals recently
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TheKevman posted:Holy poo poo, you weren't kidding. aatrek Never forget
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Feb 6, 2018 01:10
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The NCAA and schools would have cared if it was students getting free tattoos.
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Niwrad posted:The NCAA and schools would have cared if it was students getting free tattoos. John Amaechi told a story about how he would grab coffee in the mornings from the coaches office and the NCAA compliance officer found him and told him it was a violation. His point was that if they can track how much coffee you are drinking and where its coming from, its unfathomable that nobody knew about Nassar.
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Feb 6, 2018 02:40
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I mean this wasn't a serious matter like having lunch with Deion Sanders.
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Niwrad posted:I mean this wasn't a serious matter like having lunch with Deion Sanders. Wasn't the violation actually that he lied about having lunch with Deion Sanders, which was otherwise legal?
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Feb 6, 2018 02:49
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The coverup is always worse than the crime
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swickles posted:John Amaechi told a story about how he would grab coffee in the mornings from the coaches office and the NCAA compliance officer found him and told him it was a violation. His point was that if they can track how much coffee you are drinking and where its coming from, its unfathomable that nobody knew about Nassar. he's clearly ignoring what actually happened: the coaches were annoyed at someone taking their coffee and ratted him out because coaches suck
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MSU is firing their medical dean https://www.reuters.com/article/gym...l-idUSL2N1PZ1VM quote:Feb 9 (Reuters) - Michigan State University is moving to fire a dean who it said had failed to enforce 2014 guidelines created for sports doctor Larry Nassar in treating young athletes after complaints of sexual misconduct against him.
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Niwrad posted:This might end up being something. Apparently the Notre Dame AD advised USA gymnastics. Notre Dame is pretty good at covering up sexual assault allegations. https://deadspin.com/5897809/this-is-what-happens-when-you-accuse-a-notre-dame-football-player-of-sexually-assaulting-you
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Aly Raisman did an interview with CNN She says that the USOC hasn't reached out to her at all since making her Victim Statement against Larry Nassar. Also from the interview: quote:As a gymnast training at Karolyi Ranch -- the US Women's National Team Training Center in Texas -- Raisman said she and her fellow athletes were afraid to ask for basic needs such as soap and adequate food.
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joepinetree posted:Notre Dame is pretty good at covering up sexual assault allegations. If they were really good at it, this story wouldn't exist
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Now it's USA Swimming's turn in the crosshairsquote:In the more than 20 years since Wielgus took charge of USA Swimming in July 1997 at least 252 swim coaches and officials have been arrested, charged by prosecutors, or disciplined by USAS for sexual abuse or misconduct against individuals under 18. Those coaches and officials have a total of at least 590 alleged victims, some of them abused while attending pre-school swim classes. quote:USA Swimming since at least 2010 has kept a list of more than 30 coaches and officials “flagged” by USA Swimming officials after being arrested or accused by law enforcement of sex crimes including rape and child pornography, but not disciplined by USA Swimming. Some coaches and officials on the “flagged” list have not been banned even after they have been convicted of felonies. Of the 32 people on the “flagged list” in 2010, only six have been subsequently banned by USA Swimming. The “flagged list” is not available to the public. Even when USA Swimming has banned coaches and officials for life for sexual misconduct it can be years before their names are listed on the permanently banned list on USA Swimming’s website. quote:USA Swimming has also paid $77,627 to lobbying firms to lobby against legislation in California that would have made it easier for sexual abuse victims to sue their abusers and the organizations they worked for or represented in civil cases.
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Crazy Ted posted:Now it's USA Swimming's turn in the crosshairs came here to post this, loving christ
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:came here to post this, loving christ 
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