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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


X-O posted:

If you have an Nvidia 10 series card it doesn’t matter if you have a Kaby Lake. I have a GTX 1060 and I get 4K through Edge or the Microsoft Store’s Netflix app. You have to also have Windows 10 up to date.

That's a pretty big change from before. Kaby Lake was required for the DRM.

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X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

bull3964 posted:

That's a pretty big change from before. Kaby Lake was required for the DRM.

There’s other requirements like HDCP 2.2 and so forth but yeah, no longer do have to have a Kaby Lake.

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4583/~/4k-uhd-netflix-content-on-nvidia-gpus

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001

IRQ posted:

Cool I'll set up Netflix on it then. It's gorgeous on UHD DVDs (Planet Earth 2, like literally everyone buys when they get a 4k tv).

This has been one of my biggest frustrations. I was planning on NOT having any physical media this generation, but Planet Earth II does not have HDR on Netflix. As far as I can tell, the only way to get it in HDR is through the UHD Blu Ray.

I imagine that'll change in the future as HDR becomes more ubiquitous, but for now it's angering.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Stranger Things Season 1 was graded in Dolby Vision, Netflix even released it on UHD Blu-ray, and it STILL doesn't have HDR there.

The whole thing is baffling sometimes.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I think my housemate’s TV in the living room is 4K but not HDR. Unless that isn’t a thing.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Escobarbarian posted:

I think my housemate’s TV in the living room is 4K but not HDR. Unless that isn’t a thing.

4K non-HDR TV's are definitely a thing.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Makes sense, I’m watching Altered Carbon ep 1 and it looks hi-res but the colours don’t especially pop.

Also this show is some generic-rear end nonsense. Looks expensive at least

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

OldSenileGuy posted:

This has been one of my biggest frustrations. I was planning on NOT having any physical media this generation, but Planet Earth II does not have HDR on Netflix. As far as I can tell, the only way to get it in HDR is through the UHD Blu Ray.

Considering Netflix is spending less and less on licensed content every year, expecting something to be on there in perpetuity as opposed to actually taking the effort to own it seems ... overly optimistic, at best.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001

Timby posted:

Considering Netflix is spending less and less on licensed content every year, expecting something to be on there in perpetuity as opposed to actually taking the effort to own it seems ... overly optimistic, at best.

Yeah but I don't care about owning it, I just want to watch it. I've never seen it.

I bought the original Planet Earth on Blu Ray right when it was released eleven years ago and since that time I've watched it exactly....once.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

OldSenileGuy posted:

Yeah but I don't care about owning it, I just want to watch it. I've never seen it.

I bought the original Planet Earth on Blu Ray right when it was released eleven years ago and since that time I've watched it exactly....once.

I really just bought it to show off the 4k HDR on my new tv. I mean, it's loving gorgeous, but yeah I don't think I'll rewatch it other than for that.


Timby posted:

Considering Netflix is spending less and less on licensed content every year, expecting something to be on there in perpetuity as opposed to actually taking the effort to own it seems ... overly optimistic, at best.

When they took Futurama down it really snapped me back to reality. I was bummed about losing the ease of the netflix interface over playing files in windows but then I got Plex.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

IRQ posted:

I really just bought it to show off the 4k HDR on my new tv. I mean, it's loving gorgeous, but yeah I don't think I'll rewatch it other than for that.


When they took Futurama down it really snapped me back to reality. I was bummed about losing the ease of the netflix interface over playing files in windows but then I got Plex.

Hulu has been taking up a lot of the good TV Netflix has lost like 30 rock and futurama at least.

Someone needs to get Dirty Jobs and early Mythbusters back, though.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

IRQ posted:

Sadly I'm still on a 660 that has yet to die.

Cross your fingers it stays alive. It's a really, really bad time to have to buy a video card.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Gettin' better every day though.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Frasier's dad is dead. He was 77.

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

Open Source Idiom posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B85lYenaxE

New trailer for Heathers, which looks pleasingly well shot and put together.

And, look, I know a lot of people are going to be upset by the central concept behind the revamp, but I legit think it could absolutely work. The original is absolutely bleak loving satire, but I think you couldn't do it again -- it's been watered down and normalised over the years to the point where its original points are really quite easy to digest. (e.g. Mean Girls). I think it's most obvious with the musical adaptation -- which I love -- which is softer than the film version, which is, itself, softer than the original script was going to be.

I've seen a lot of people argue that the new season -- it looks like it's a sequel, not a remake, and has Shannon Doherty back as a Heather -- will be about tearing down minorities, and is throwing in turnabout for the sake of it, but after seeing that trailer I disagree that they're actually going in that direction.

Any revamp, if it wanted to have the same black satirical quality, needed to have a nasty edge. Upending the highschool foodchain, and presenting Veronica as even crazier than the original Veronica, seems to be the way to do it -- it shifts minorities to the centre of the narrative rather than leaving them to play at the edges of the story, and shifts the criticism from attacking white female power structures (which, like I said, has been done an awful lot). It becomes a criticism of backlash culture, and the cultural need to destroy minorities.

Or maybe not. Either way, I'm just more excited at this point.

drat, I'm the exact opposite of upset. I wish more remakes would put this kind of effort in. You're right so often we get remakes that fail to understand that the original was significant because it the pushed boundaries in a certain cultural context, which leads to remakes being tepid retreads of tired cliches, instead of innovative boundary pushers themselves.

The only thing that looked weak was JD, they should've either gotten a decent Kid Nicholson impersonator or gone in the other direction and cast someone who could do one of those awkward, uncanny valley performances like the guy in The Killing of a Sacred Deer.

-Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Feb 6, 2018

Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin
It looks really interesting, looks a bit like Scream Queens season 1 (that's a good thing!).

Anyway, Babylon Berlin is so 100% my poo poo that I even interrupted my Banshee bender for it. I'm already done with season 1 and the story has really picked up speed. You have Stalinists gunning down Trotzkyists, a right wing conspiracy to rearm the German military, a literal wagon load of gold and a main character who just wants to bang his dead brothers sister. Oh and it is so insanely pretty.

Look at this poo poo, they even found a great way to put that song into the show and it is one of the coolest (and weirdest) scenes I have seen in a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOYn-GQ_Vsg

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Medullah posted:

Cross your fingers it stays alive. It's a really, really bad time to have to buy a video card.

Worst case scenario I take one of the 1080s out of the 17 buttcoin mining rigs that keep my apartment a balmy 108 degrees.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Popelmon posted:

Homeland is still on?

Even better. In the show a sadistic stand-in for Hillary Clinton won and she's a war mongering tyrant that runs a secret police against Americans. She fucks over an Infowars guy.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Mu Zeta posted:

Even better. In the show a sadistic stand-in for Hillary Clinton won and she's a war mongering tyrant that runs a secret police against Americans. She fucks over an Infowars guy.

Ah, so they wrote that season before the election then?


e: Trump is much, much, much infinitely worse.

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.
I just wish Homeland could find some way to recapture the greatness (sans daughter drama) of seasons 1-2 but I don't see it happening.

IRQ posted:

e: Trump is much, much, much infinitely worse.

Eh, I've said it before, but Trump is the best possible Republican candidate we ever could have hoped for. The democratic equivalent of Trump would be if we elected Flavor Flav. The damage he's doing to the Republican brand is going to make W look like FDR. And if Obama was anything to go by, the resulting backlash from Trump is going to be so extreme it's conceivable that our next president could be an age-accelerated genetic clone of MLK.

EDIT: vvv True, but they haven't really had a good brand in a while anyway, and eventually those voter suppression tactics are going to become untenable. You can only skew the numbers so long before it becomes too embarrassingly obvious to withstand public scrutiny. The demographic shifts are inevitable, the only real question is how the democrats will manage to crawl up their own rear end and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

-Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Feb 6, 2018

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Problem is voter suppression gets strong enough they don't have to have a good brand.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

IRQ posted:

Ah, so they wrote that season before the election then?

e: Trump is much, much, much infinitely worse.

Nah: they wrote the season during the election. The president's basically an heroic figure for most of the season, up until to the point that the writers realised that was Trump gonna win, then boom! Suddenly she's a war mongering paranoid dictator. It's dramatic whiplash.

Honestly, it's still a really good season (and would have been an excellent season if real life hadn't pushed them off course.). I don't envy their position at all.

HanabaL03
Nov 12, 2003

We're spread, we're spread, we're spreading our.... wings! :v:
The third episode of Counterpart is the equivalent of “Walkabout” in :lost:

I’m hooked. God drat.

Also anyone know why the AV club has nothing on Counterpart?

HanabaL03 fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Feb 6, 2018

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Popelmon posted:

Homeland is still on?

It actually got good again in season 4, but I haven't watched past that

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

precision posted:

It actually got good again in season 4, but I haven't watched past that

It's been pretty consistently good since Brody left.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

Gonz posted:

Frasier's dad is dead. He was 77.

What a fuckin bummer. I just started watching Frasier.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

DoctorWhat posted:

What a fuckin bummer. I just started watching Frasier.

He was always a joy to watch.

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

HanabaL03 posted:

The third episode of Counterpart is the equivalent of “Walkabout” in :lost:

I’m hooked. God drat.

Also anyone know why the AV club has nothing on Counterpart?

People still read AV Club? The AV Club posts things that aren't food articles/Game of Thrones(experts)/(newbies)?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

HanabaL03 posted:

Also anyone know why the AV club has nothing on Counterpart?

Short answer, the site's changed a lot behind the scenes. Effort post answer?

They're run by mercenaries who don't care about quality shows or quality writing. They go where the perceived audience is, and if their metric doesn't perceive an audience the show gets dumped. If a staff writer cares about a particular show they can go to bat on it, though it used to be that they would do full seasonal coverage. Now it'd be "period check ins".

Plus, a lot of the commenter community dropped off over the course of several site changes, and many of the ones who are left are nursing grudges. Add to that the influx of -- shall we say, difficult? -- posters whenever there's an audience mega show around (GoT, for instance) and you've got a big sea change in the kinds of people who comment for the site. A lot of these people are fickle, and only flock to certain megashows, so the site chases these people and the writing suffers thanks to catering over specifically. Add to that a habit of hiring a crop of writers with poorer talent than the last lot of newbies, and you've got systemic sea change on your hands.

And, yeah, you're welcome to read this as Old Man Yells At Cloud, or whatever stodgy conservative fan discourse you want. That's honestly probably true.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Watching a video called "How all 3 Cloverfield movies are connected" and 9 of the 10 minutes are just pointing out Bad Robot easter eggs smh

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I haven't seen Cloverfield Paradox yet (maybe right after I'm done here) but like at this stage I'm just assuming that JJ Abrams has figured out how to do whatever weird movie he wants under the guise of an anthology series pretending to be somehow connected to each other.

And honestly, I'm kind of impressed at the scam. Especially with the meta aspect of the "Cloverfield" name's origins.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

STAC Goat posted:

I haven't seen Cloverfield Paradox yet (maybe right after I'm done here) but like at this stage I'm just assuming that JJ Abrams has figured out how to do whatever weird movie he wants under the guise of an anthology series pretending to be somehow connected to each other.

And honestly, I'm kind of impressed at the scam. Especially with the meta aspect of the "Cloverfield" name's origins.
At least this one had the decency to be connected to the original. 10 Cloverfield Lane sure as hell wasn't, though it was a better movie than this one.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

At least this one had the decency to be connected to the original. 10 Cloverfield Lane sure as hell wasn't, though it was a better movie than this one.

It felt just like the 2nd one, an unconnected film that was retooled into a Cloverfield sequel.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

STAC Goat posted:

I haven't seen Cloverfield Paradox yet (maybe right after I'm done here) but like at this stage I'm just assuming that JJ Abrams has figured out how to do whatever weird movie he wants under the guise of an anthology series pretending to be somehow connected to each other.

And honestly, I'm kind of impressed at the scam. Especially with the meta aspect of the "Cloverfield" name's origins.

I doubt Abrams had much to do with Paradox. He’s a producer, sure, but he didn’t write or direct it, and it’s based off a spec script written by someone else that originally had nothing to do with Cloverfield.

I realize Abrams is a popular scapegoat after Lost and Star Trek, but Paradox’s faults lie squarely in the poo poo script and uneven tone. Paramount was smart to dump it on Netflix instead of taking a bath with a general release.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
also, as I mentioned over in the movie's CineD thread, it's basically guaranteed that the movie would have gotten into MPAA trouble had it went to theaters. it's a movie that's very clearly targeting a PG-13, except for the fact that there's a weird amount of gore in it, some of which you can't really cut because it's plot-relevant. I wouldn't be surprised if a solid amount of the reasoning for dropping it on Netflix was "instead of dealing with the MPAA we can totally sidestep those fuckers and still treat it like a blockbuster."

e: I wouldn't be surprised if disrupting the MPAA is part of Netflix's explicit goals, now that I think about it; a lot of their original series and movies are basically targeted at teens, except they have content that means they'd be treated as totally unacceptable by actual teen-oriented networks. Like, Daredevil is pretty bluntly a show for 13-year-old boys and yet it's Spartacus-level violent, and Death Note would be a fuckin' John Hughes riff if it weren't for the insane gore. And Sense8 is basically what happens if a CW show and softcore porn get in a car crash.

I don't think this is a bad thing, the MPAA is terrible and we probably should be more permissive content-wise for stuff that isn't being targeted at actual small children, but it's certainly interesting.

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Feb 6, 2018

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

HanabaL03 posted:

The third episode of Counterpart is the equivalent of “Walkabout” in :lost:

I’m hooked. God drat.

Also anyone know why the AV club has nothing on Counterpart?

Too good for those fuckholes. :)

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Open Source Idiom posted:

Short answer, the site's changed a lot behind the scenes. Effort post answer?

They're run by mercenaries who don't care about quality shows or quality writing. They go where the perceived audience is, and if their metric doesn't perceive an audience the show gets dumped. If a staff writer cares about a particular show they can go to bat on it, though it used to be that they would do full seasonal coverage. Now it'd be "period check ins".

Plus, a lot of the commenter community dropped off over the course of several site changes, and many of the ones who are left are nursing grudges. Add to that the influx of -- shall we say, difficult? -- posters whenever there's an audience mega show around (GoT, for instance) and you've got a big sea change in the kinds of people who comment for the site. A lot of these people are fickle, and only flock to certain megashows, so the site chases these people and the writing suffers thanks to catering over specifically. Add to that a habit of hiring a crop of writers with poorer talent than the last lot of newbies, and you've got systemic sea change on your hands.

And, yeah, you're welcome to read this as Old Man Yells At Cloud, or whatever stodgy conservative fan discourse you want. That's honestly probably true.

The recent buyout by Univision and switch to the Kinja commenting system is what truly destroyed that site. They review so much less than they used to and try and focus on being another “lol Trump” site half the time, and the community they’d built up got wiped out by the switch to a far uglier commenting system.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Open Source Idiom posted:

Short answer, the site's changed a lot behind the scenes. Effort post answer?

They're run by mercenaries who don't care about quality shows or quality writing. They go where the perceived audience is, and if their metric doesn't perceive an audience the show gets dumped. If a staff writer cares about a particular show they can go to bat on it, though it used to be that they would do full seasonal coverage. Now it'd be "period check ins".

Plus, a lot of the commenter community dropped off over the course of several site changes, and many of the ones who are left are nursing grudges. Add to that the influx of -- shall we say, difficult? -- posters whenever there's an audience mega show around (GoT, for instance) and you've got a big sea change in the kinds of people who comment for the site. A lot of these people are fickle, and only flock to certain megashows, so the site chases these people and the writing suffers thanks to catering over specifically. Add to that a habit of hiring a crop of writers with poorer talent than the last lot of newbies, and you've got systemic sea change on your hands.

And, yeah, you're welcome to read this as Old Man Yells At Cloud, or whatever stodgy conservative fan discourse you want. That's honestly probably true.
Are you serious? Even in their scaled-down form, they still do far more reviews on unpopular TV shows and films than most other publications. Their review on an obscure Japanese film, published last Thursday, has received only a single comment.

I'm hardly AV Club's biggest fan, but these are tough times for TV/movie review sites and I cannot imagine how blinkered one must be to accuse them of being mercenaries or whatever horseshit.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Vegetable posted:

Are you serious? Even in their scaled-down form, they still do far more reviews on unpopular TV shows and films than most other publications. Their review on an obscure Japanese film, published last Thursday, has received only a single comment.

I'm hardly AV Club's biggest fan, but these are tough times for TV/movie review sites and I cannot imagine how blinkered one must be to accuse them of being mercenaries or whatever horseshit.

Actually their film stuff is pretty good. As is their games coverage, though it's not particularly broad. I was mostly talking about television.

But sure, yeah, perhaps I am a bit blinkered.

Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Feb 6, 2018

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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
The AV Club used to be fantastic ten years ago. I remember their giant two-parter Harlan Ellison interview, that thing was awesome. Ever since the buyout they’ve definitely been more click-baity and the new interface kinda sucks.

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