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Bubba Smith posted:Nicco couldn't really get beat any worse, or have any shorter of a title reign, than Joanna vs Carla For sure, but Carla was the betting favorite in that fight. I can't imagine Nicco being anything better than a +500 underdog. Cyborg would have been the favorite as the challenger, except there was no champion. I can't think of times the champ was the underdog, but I'm sure it must have happened.
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Nunes a couple of times, DC against Jones, Edgar against Penn and Maynard were all underdogs. Not +500 though.
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Looten Plunder posted:If she never quits, why the gently caress are you telling her to shut up when she is saying her knee is hosed? That's a mistranslation. It's supposed to say she's not allowed ever quit.
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Acinonyx posted:For sure, but Carla was the betting favorite in that fight. I can't imagine Nicco being anything better than a +500 underdog. Cyborg would have been the favorite as the challenger, except there was no champion. I can't think of times the champ was the underdog, but I'm sure it must have happened. Ngannou was favored over Stipe.
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Machida was favoured over Rashad. Brock over Randy.
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Nate Diaz is rumoured to be interested in stepping in for Max against Edgar at 222.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Nate Diaz is rumoured to be interested in stepping in for Max against Edgar at 222. I wonder if that would be for an interim belt?
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Nate Diaz is rumoured to be interested in stepping in for Max against Edgar at 222. As a 155 fun and games main event or trying to make 145 for an interim? Can Nate make 145? Seems like that'd be a real bad cut.
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https://www.mmamania.com/2018/2/4/16972022/nate-diaz-is-100-interested-in-fighting-at-ufc-222-replace-max-holloway-injury Doesn't say what weight but you'd have to imagine it'd be 155.
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kensei posted:I wonder if that would be for an interim belt? There is no way Nate Diaz makes 145 on short notice. I dont know if he makes 145 with any notice. It'd probably be 155 for fun if true.
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Hard to imagine Diaz beating Holloway (unless he manages to put Holloway's back against the cage and keep it there), but it'd still be a fun fight. edit--lol im an idiot having a brain fart and forgot holloway is the one who is out Cyber Dog fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 18:50
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Can’t wait for Eddie to cry about Nate somehow
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Acinonyx posted:For sure, but Carla was the betting favorite in that fight. I can't imagine Nicco being anything better than a +500 underdog. Cyborg would have been the favorite as the challenger, except there was no champion. I can't think of times the champ was the underdog, but I'm sure it must have happened. I can't imagine that Serra was favoured over GSP e: GSP was -500 according to this
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Acinonyx posted:I can't think of times the champ was the underdog, but I'm sure it must have happened. Miocic vs. Ngannou wasn't that long ago.
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Cyber Dog posted:Hard to imagine Diaz beating Holloway (unless he manages to put Holloway's back against the cage and keep it there), but it'd still be a fun fight. I think Nate's reach can make things uncomfortable for Holloway and Nate has always done well against other standup fighters as long as they don't make bitch rear end lady sounds. Edgar might be a tougher fight because of his offensive wrestling and his movement. Nifft fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Acinonyx posted:For sure, but Carla was the betting favorite in that fight. I can't imagine Nicco being anything better than a +500 underdog. Cyborg would have been the favorite as the challenger, except there was no champion. I can't think of times the champ was the underdog, but I'm sure it must have happened. Miocic was a slight underdog. The last one I remember being a bit bigger was...the second Edgar/Penn fight, I think. https://www.bestfightodds.com/events/ufc-118-edgar-vs-penn-2-278
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kensei posted:I wonder if that would be for an interim belt? The Interim Violence Weight Championship.
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MassRafTer posted:The Interim Violence Weight Championship. Interim? Who holds the Violence Weight title?
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https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/960719116435951616 I know you aren't the brightest Ariel but that is the last straw for you to say he isn't fit to ref?
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Digital Jedi posted:https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/960719116435951616 He's not wrong about it being a bad sign about a ref. A ref should not be saying "I gave her a chance to be a warrior" - he should be saying "I'm here to protect you from yourself."
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Yamasaki looks at Brazilian girl being pounded into hamburger while mounted "And now you have earned it; your chance to be a warrior."
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Yamasaki is so frustrating because he's not like Mazzagatti where its cut and dry. Half the time he's a fine ref - maybe not great, but competent. Its the other half of the time thats the problem, when its evident that he has only achieved what he has in life through a dark pact with the same ancient blood god Tan Dan worships.
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Mario doesn't call it if a fighter is intelligently defending herself. It's not Mario's job to decide if she's doing a good job, it's his job to decide if she's doing it at all. Not even getting into the fact that if you watched Valentina Shevchenko fight and it made you unhappy, well, brother, at a certain point that's on you.
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It's actually totally his job to decide if your defense constitutes intelligent defense. Boxing referees have been doing it for years and MMA is finally starting to catch up. Not in that fight, though.
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Gay Horney posted:Mario doesn't call it if a fighter is intelligently defending herself. It's not Mario's job to decide if she's doing a good job, it's his job to decide if she's doing it at all. Not even getting into the fact that if you watched Valentina Shevchenko fight and it made you unhappy, well, brother, at a certain point that's on you. It is 100% a referee's job to stop a fight if they feel it has become dangerously one-sided, even if the losing fighter is "intelligently" defending themselves.
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mario disagrees. i forgot to add that I don't support his mentality but I've heard it explained before
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Rigel posted:Interim? Who holds the Violence Weight title? Eddie Alvarez.
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Shevchenko is probably my favorite currently active female fighter.
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El Roncho posted:Shevchenko is probably my favorite currently active female fighter. In a world with Joanna Champion, that's a high bar to clear. To be honest, I thought she beat Nunes, and she looked vicious on Saturday. I think she's going to have a belt by the end of this year.
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kensei posted:In a world with Joanna Champion, that's a high bar to clear. To be honest, I thought she beat Nunes, and she looked vicious on Saturday. I think she's going to have a belt by the end of this year. Joanna Contender now, my dude.
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Gay Horney posted:mario disagrees. i forgot to add that I don't support his mentality but I've heard it explained before Well poo poo he should find a new job then. You don't get to make up your own special criteria based on your bushido spirit to overwrite the definition of intelligent defense that's literally spelled out in the rulebook. Tbh I think this is one of the few things that boxing actually does better. I'm a casual boxing fan so I'm sure that someone will tell me I'm wrong and find me some videos of a guy being beaten half to death. But anecdotally it seems to me that in boxing there's a much higher acceptance for refs stopping a fight if a guy's still upright and moving but getting the poo poo kicked out of them to the point where they're ineffective. Whereas in MMA it seems like it's more common let a person be beaten on endlessly as long as they're still standing and/or moving. I feel like there's been improvement from this over the last few years, but it's still comes up. I know refs don't want to stop a comeback that might theoretically happen but at a certain point you have to do your loving job and protect someone's well-being over your sports narrative.
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CRISPYBABY posted:Tbh I think this is one of the few things that boxing actually does better. I'm a casual boxing fan so I'm sure that someone will tell me I'm wrong and find me some videos of a guy being beaten half to death. But anecdotally it seems to me that in boxing there's a much higher acceptance for refs stopping a fight if a guy's still upright and moving but getting the poo poo kicked out of them to the point where they're ineffective. that's basically how conor got stopped vs floyd
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Bluedeanie posted:Yamasaki is so frustrating because he's not like Mazzagatti where its cut and dry. Half the time he's a fine ref - maybe not great, but competent. Its the other half of the time thats the problem, when its evident that he has only achieved what he has in life through a dark pact with the same ancient blood god Tan Dan worships.
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There are certainly cases of boxers taking wayyyyyyy too much punishment in fights. But the cornermen and refs tend to be very good at recognizing when a fighter is hurt and unlikely to mount any real resistance or come back to win. Gatti/Gomez, Trinidad/Mayorga, Mayweather/Gatti, and Calzaghe/Lacy are among some of the worst beatings in boxing.
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Digital Jedi posted:https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/960719116435951616 Ariel Helwani wants Yamasaki to do the r word????
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El Roncho posted:Yamasaki looks at Brazilian girl being pounded into hamburger while mounted [Yamasaki whispering into Cachoiera's ear:] bear witness to the fitness of the modern warrior [Turning to her weeping family in the front row:] BOOM! Another hit is landing!
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Dan Didio posted:[Yamasaki whispering into Cachoiera's ear:] bear witness to the fitness of the modern warrior
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Dan Didio posted:[Yamasaki whispering into Cachoiera's ear:] bear witness to the fitness of the modern warrior 
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choose the sword, and you will join me in getting punched on the ground 200+ times. choose the ball, and you will join your mother in rizin. you don't understand my words, but second round come on let's go.
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Triticum Guzzler posted:choose the sword, and you will join me in getting punched on the ground 200+ times. choose the ball, and you will join your mother in rizin. you don't understand my words, but second round come on let's go.
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