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You can still get big desks with built-in rack mounts, but they're largely marketed towards recording and cost like $1k minimum. I'm sorry for your loss.
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moller posted:I'm still using a T420. I don't think I'd want a computer that smoked every day.
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Jedit posted:I don't think I'd want a computer that smoked every day. My computer at university had little flakes of weed stuck in the heatsink when I looked inside 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AznYSnJEjSU Celebrate because Flash is dead, and then die a little inside because of the thousands of idiot 14 year old having their minds blown that the guy who invented it has the last name Gay.
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Measly Twerp posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AznYSnJEjSU Flash Gay so what.
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Measly Twerp posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AznYSnJEjSU years ago in another life as a code monkey, the woman who was in charge of the flash projects was old, obese, talked like droopy dog, and was a one-trick pony who had learned macromedia from one of those tutorials and refused to consider other ways of doing anything. imagine droopy dog saying something like, "well....you want more than two colors on this site...and the only way to do that....is with flash...". I hated her so much, and when flash started becoming deprecated/annoying, even way back then, I could see her coming to fewer and fewer meetings until she was let go. and this was in like the earlier 2000s. that's my story, thanks for listening and have a blessed day~~ edit: according to that video, the iphone really killed it in 2007. I can assure you, it was dying looong before that. you see, in the US there's the Americans with Disabilities Act, and Section 508 of that act says that everything that gets government money, including web sites, has to be accessible for screen readers, etc. for blind people, and that was impossible to do with flash, so the US Govt. was dropping it way earlier. I don't know if that at all influenced apple's decision to withhold support, but there you go. ladron has a new favorite as of 02:16 on Feb 7, 2018 |
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quote:and the only way to do that....is with flash The Something Awful Forums > Main > Post Your Favorite (or Request): Coldly Compiled Lists > Obsolete Technology: The only way to do that...is with flash.
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Jedit posted:I don't think I'd want a computer that smoked every day. I beg to differ
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spog posted:Firmware for a flashlight? Have we finally reached that stage? I had to update the firmware on a VCR awhile back, that felt loving weird. OK, it was one of those VCR/DVD units that can convert between the two, but still.
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ladron posted:years ago in another life as a code monkey, the woman who was in charge of the flash projects was old, obese, talked like droopy dog, and was a one-trick pony who had learned macromedia from one of those tutorials and refused to consider other ways of doing anything. imagine droopy dog saying something like, "well....you want more than two colors on this site...and the only way to do that....is with flash...". I hated her so much, and when flash started becoming deprecated/annoying, even way back then, I could see her coming to fewer and fewer meetings until she was let go. and this was in like the earlier 2000s. I remembered Jobs saying Flash was like 6 months from being compatible with iPhones and then we never heard about it again. Ends up they ported it to the iPhone but battery life dropped to like one hour. But that means there's an alternate universe where Flash is on iOS, iPhones have massive batteries, and there was never a need for an App Store because people could play Elf Bowling natively on their iPhones.
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Measly Twerp posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AznYSnJEjSU OTOH that means stuff like Homestar Runner is gone forever. Kinda sad...
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ladron posted:edit: according to that video, the iphone really killed it in 2007. I can assure you, it was dying looong before that. you see, in the US there's the Americans with Disabilities Act. Not exactly. However HTML by nature is much easier to parse for on-screen readers. Flash however is a series of lots of moving objects so things were often not ticked or properly labelled so inconsistency was everywhere. And then on top of that not every accessibility software supported it. Before the iPhone Blackberry and other early smart phones like a Sony Ericsson could not run anything Flash based. If they did the content scaling would stuff up completely and the site would be tiny and useable. And then things like dropdown menus or hover based items were impossible to use on a touch screen let alone the ability of phone to even run such content at speed.
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Keiya posted:OTOH that means stuff like Homestar Runner is gone forever. Kinda sad... They're porting/ported it all.
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It's not a perfect port, Homestar Runner videos had interactive easter eggs that can't be reproduced on YouTube.
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Konstantin posted:It's not a perfect port, Homestar Runner videos had interactive easter eggs that can't be reproduced on YouTube. I'd this is the price I have to pay for a world free of Flash, I pay it gladly. Blood for the Blood God.
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Antioch posted:I'd this is the price I have to pay for a world free of Flash, I pay it gladly. Blood for the Blood God. Been a long time since I even touch webdev, but can't the videos and easter eggs be done in HTML5?
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Humphreys posted:Been a long time since I even touch webdev, but can't the videos and easter eggs be done in HTML5? Yeah that's why browsers don't support flash anymore. HTML5 is a direct answer to vulnerabilities and accessibility issues with flash. It introduced a standardized way to implement audio and video and markup for APIs to be easily plugged in in a safe(r) way. I've worked in web dev at the height of flash in 2008-2012 and all everyone was talking about is how it needs to die in lieu of HTML5. The funny thing is how long HTML5 was in the making. 1993 - 2014. It took mind boggling 21 years during which webdevs had 5 browsers installed, 2 of which were different versions of IE. It was a time when using a browser that was w3c compliant made many pages broken because they were optimized for a browser from the 90s. The most ubiquitous markup language was the biggest shitshow computers ever had to deal with.
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Randaconda posted:Why did it take so long? Nobody cared until smartphones basically. They had to standardize poo poo because grandmas and little kids started using cutting edge technology to watch youtube which stopped being flash based in 2015 (!). It was held back by lovely webdesign being standard and doing things correctly was restricting majority of users from accessing your content. The standard web machine of 2012 is an old computer with cracked win xp, in 2015 it's a smartphone tablet. EDIT: There is a longer story to this with XHTML basically being the main focus of the web illuminati. It's funny because if I had to describe it, it's web devs saying gently caress your IE ways we're gonna make a separate standard that's nonshit and actually developed. This meant that your regular joe webdesigner now had two standards to accomodate and instead of a simple <html> tag every web page began with a paragraph of code to let the browser know what bullshit cocktail it's gonna try to display. Now all of those things are what HTML5 is. The development was there, but the smartphones made a push that finally made html4 dumpable. Vic has a new favorite as of 13:32 on Feb 7, 2018 |
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Don't ask me about mobile browsers bouncing around position: fixed elements when the address bar shows and hides right now, the memory is still too fresh. Also ie11 is still a poo poo show, Safari can be odd, and YouTube needs to ditch iframes for embed code, gently caress that. Why don't you just use tables if you're going to be prehistoric, Google. But it is cool that in 2018 there's very few problems making sites even with relatively complicated layouts work on different devices. It's not perfect but vs 2001 it's like a dream. I still feel dirty testing sites in Edge, like I'm pandering to a violent malicious retard (Microsoft browsers). And sometimes it will drop the ball and I'll just nod. Never forget. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO has a new favorite as of 15:28 on Feb 7, 2018 |
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How's Edge nowadays? Do you still have to include separate html/css for it?
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I don't come across many problems with edge, not enough to warrant separate styles. I've got around any problems so far without that. Bootstrap may be helping me there by resetting things. Edge is surprisingly good currently.... For now. I don't even care or test for whatever Microsoft calls it's mobile browser.  I hope anything I write breaks on there and displays an ASCII goatse.
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let me clarify about the job I had 20 years ago for the pedants, then: flash was bullshit and ALMOST impossible to use with text readers or other things that would make it section 508 compliant UNLESS you had the most up to date version of everything and it was coded a special way which is a poo poo TON harder than just not using it.
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The secret SEO mojo then was "use html for content and links", when people wanted flash. I remember using tables for everything as well. Ugh. XHTML was a real uptick. I wish iframes were obselete. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO has a new favorite as of 15:35 on Feb 7, 2018 |
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I learned that despite Edge existing, Internet Explorer 11 is still a separate program. Why did I learn this? Because Federal Express, one of the giants of corporate shipping, still uses Java to talk to the label printers they provide their customers, and IE11 is literally the only browser left that will allow me to print shipping labels, because the rest of the world has already decided that Java is a toxic insecure mess.
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ladron posted:let me clarify about the job I had 20 years ago for the pedants, then: What we did was include the content of the flash video in html and hide it with css. That way the screen readers were able to access it, but nobody seemed to bother. Not to mention they used flash to create entire lovely websites with overlong lovely animations, that made smartphones of the day poo poo themselves trying to real time rescale bitmaps. 
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Vic posted:entire lovely websites with overlong lovely animations that's what I meant about it being annoying before. for a bit it seemed like the coolest thing, but then you had to check that box to skip the lovely animation each time you visited the page, and you had to check it again when you dumped that cookie. it seems the lack of an alternative for small file videos, especially interactive ones, seemed to have kept it around for a while, people just used it as a fundamental part of web design because they hate usability I guess. so loving glad I got out of this field .
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VMware's vSphere uses Shockwave and it's a clusterfuck. Using it in Mac OS required a 50mb plugin just to upload an OS. That plugin wouldn't download in Safari or Chrome so I'd have to connect using Windows in emulation. One day I had to use my Dell laptop with 4gb of RAM. It crashed everything. Like it wouldn't even load. I think my RAM was pegged at about 98% utilized. I'm still sore about the fact I needed a 50mb plugin to upload a file. I'm not even a coder and I'm pretty sure I could code a simple upload.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I don't come across many problems with edge, not enough to warrant separate styles. I've got around any problems so far without that. Bootstrap may be helping me there by resetting things. One web trend that drives me absolutely insane nowadays is tying your account logins to a geographical area in the name of security. I run into this poo poo all the time when travelling or using VPN for work. Like I needed to call my hotel in Taiwan and had Wifi available on my phone, so I'll just use Skype, right? No gently caress you, we noticed that you're in a different country so you have to click a confirmation link in the email we sent. Well ok, I'll check my gmail... except gently caress YOU, we need you to confirm it's you because you have a different IP address. At least gmail doesn't tell me to check my secondary/backup email, because I'd be stuck in a loop. Gyft.com has the same poo poo though, every time I try to login from a different place, it tells me I need to change the password. I do it, but on the next login it asks for it again so I'm still unable to get in. Well done.
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Mein Kampf Enthusiast posted:I learned that despite Edge existing, Internet Explorer 11 is still a separate program. Why did I learn this? Because Federal Express, one of the giants of corporate shipping, still uses Java to talk to the label printers they provide their customers, and IE11 is literally the only browser left that will allow me to print shipping labels, because the rest of the world has already decided that Java is a toxic insecure mess. Until recently I think the problem was that big companies would just force everyone to only use ie, and once they did that they had no incentive to update their legacy sites that only worked on ie.
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mobby_6kl posted:I like Edge on my tablet, it feels way smoother than Chrome and works great with touch. Otherwise it's pretty poor in terms of features though.
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Sininu posted:I was wondering why one of my friends uploaded every image he shared with me to Discord instead of just linking them. Turned out he uses Edge and it doesn't even have "open image in new tab" or "copy image address" in right click context menu. Also people don't link images anymore, they just send them directly because it's easier
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Edge is my go-to browser for sites that don't work well with chrome. So, basically d.rip
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Last Chance posted:Also people don't link images anymore, they just send them directly because it's easier How is that easier than just copying the link?
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Sininu posted:How is that easier than just copying the link? Because image-based sharing apps have exploded and the easiest way to attach images to those apps is to just upload them like they were another photo taken with the phone/device.
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Last Chance posted:Because image-based sharing apps have exploded and the easiest way to attach images to those apps is to just upload them like they were another photo taken with the phone/device. That's way more steps that just copying a link and pasting it. Why would I download the image to share it?
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Usually you can just copy the image and paste the image directly. It's the same number of steps as copying a link, but the image will appear in the message feed without anyone needing to click on it.
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mystes posted:Yeah, tons of companies still have stuff that only works on ie. Making edge a separate browser was a much better idea than adding another level of compatibility mode in ie, because nobody is going to want to use ie for normal web browsing this way, so companies won't be able to standardize on ie, they'll just have to use it in combination with a modern browser for legacy sites, which should drive adoption of evergreen browsers. Yeah but in this case I'd say the burden falls on FedEx to update their poo poo, everyone uses those drat label printers and it's pretty retarded that they're still forcing Java implementation for it
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Armacham posted:Usually you can just copy the image and paste the image directly. It's the same number of steps as copying a link, but the image will appear in the message feed without anyone needing to click on it. Is the implication here that links are dead obsolete technology?
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Also people are generally just saving images to their devices and don't have the original links anymore, so they distribute it from their device, someone else receives the image directly sans link, saves it to their device, and the cycle continues.
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