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Watched the episodes, season is real entertaining, thanks for the nudge to watch folks! I had definitely heard of Versace the brand before but not the man or really anything about him, much less that the man who murdered him was a serial killer  Definitely different than last season but it's been very entertaining so far.
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Feb 8, 2018 04:08
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It’s an American Crime that more people aren’t posting about this show.
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The show's insanely well told from a dramatic standpoint but man there's no way they could do the wikipedia tell of events. Jesus christ
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Feb 8, 2018 07:52
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Milo and POTUS posted:The show's insanely well told from a dramatic standpoint but man there's no way they could do the wikipedia tell of events. Jesus christ What? From what I've seen from Cunanan's wiki this is going almost exactly according to script https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cunanan
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Darren Criss absolutely owns my bones and I think this whole thing is really well put-together and I really appreciate that this story is being told like this... ...but if I have to be honest, Cool Motive, Still Murder: The TV Series is really not my type of thing. I'll probably watch one or two more episodes to see if something really grabs me, but it'll really be more out of obligation to one of my favorite actors than for the fact that I super wanna see what happens on a show like this.
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I’m just wondering when they’re actually going to get back to the show’s namesake
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Henchman of Santa posted:I’m just wondering when they’re actually going to get back to the show’s namesake I mean it's pretty clear that this is the Andrew Cunanan Murder Hour and the Versace title is because he's the most prominent name attached to the events.
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Regy Rusty posted:I mean it's pretty clear that this is the Andrew Cunanan Murder Hour and the Versace title is because he's the most prominent name attached to the events. Yeah but you also don’t hire Penelope Cruz and Ricky Martin and just quietly abandon them after two episodes. They seemed to be setting up something about their parallel lives and I wouldn’t be surprised if we get an episode with no Cunanan at all, especially because we have now seen all of his murders.
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GobiasIndustries posted:What? From what I've seen from Cunanan's wiki this is going almost exactly according to script Wait did the old guy get perforated by screwdriver
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Milo and POTUS posted:Wait did the old guy get perforated by screwdriver that part was different but all the other murders line up and he still did the 'tape the head up' thing.
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Feb 9, 2018 01:46
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Jesus that episode was heartbreaking  this season is fantastic but will be real hard to rewatch
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Feb 9, 2018 06:38
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It's actually hilarious that ep1 at points felt like some HLN trash for soccer moms and now I can't imagine a more goony show. The lack of a central detective character is a really neat/perverse choice too, just forces the viewer to just simmer in the brutality.
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precision posted:Jesus that episode was heartbreaking Man. I'm never watching this again.
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This show is difficult for me to process. I might make a long post detailing my overall reaction when it's complete. For now, I'll say what strikes me the most is how candid it is in presenting what is fundamentally loose inference as a believable story of motivations and events. Andrew's mother kept something of a small shrine to him up until the day she died, placing his photos right next to a portrait of Benedict XVI. She did believe him innocent, set up by the mob. She was senile, possibly came from a mob family herself, and had a very troubled mind even before her old age. I politely excused her love for her deceased son, who committed horrific acts. But... there is a lingering feeling of injustice, that in the face of the ugly drive to commercialize such shocking brutality, there's very little anyone has to say which which cannot be dismissed, if it doesn't aid the weaving of a more compelling story.
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Feb 9, 2018 13:23
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Henchman of Santa posted:Yeah but you also don’t hire Penelope Cruz and Ricky Martin and just quietly abandon them after two episodes. Penelope Cruz, yeah, but I'm pretty sure Ricky Martin's phone isn't exactly ringing off the hook with acting opportunities.
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Feb 9, 2018 15:36
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Sand Monster posted:Penelope Cruz, yeah, but I'm pretty sure Ricky Martin's phone isn't exactly ringing off the hook with acting opportunities. No, but he’s still much more famous than anyone on the show besides Cruz (and maybe Criss if you’re under a certain age).
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algebra testes posted:
My boyfriend tapped out on this season already. Personally I don’t think I’ll ever give this a re-watch. Not that it’s bad, just like, yanno, Dancer in the Dark or House of Sand and Fog you see it once and you know you’ll never watch it a second time. I’m kinda surprised so many people aren’t familiar with the case. Though, I admit I only know because of that Eminem song with the line ‘it’s me Versace! Somebody shot me. But I was just checking the mail. Get it? Checking the male?’
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Feb 11, 2018 07:40
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How much was it really in the news at the time? I was pretty young when the murder happened but I definitely don't remember it being anywhere near as high profile as OJ, or Katrina or the Clinton scandal. I would imagine Cunanan killing himself kept it from being a recurring talking point for news outlets because  he's dead case closed.
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Feb 11, 2018 07:50
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If you were young enough it happened during your summer break. Plus no lengthy trial.
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Feb 11, 2018 09:29
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Yeah I'd never heard of it before the show. I talked to my parents to see if they remembered anything and my mom asked me if Gianni Versace had anything to do with the fashion designer. ("Uh yeah, that's him." "Oh I didn't know he was dead.") Sooo it doesn't seem to have been a hot topic of conversation in my house as a kid.
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GobiasIndustries posted:How much was it really in the news at the time? I was pretty young when the murder happened but I definitely don't remember it being anywhere near as high profile as OJ, or Katrina or the Clinton scandal. I would imagine Cunanan killing himself kept it from being a recurring talking point for news outlets because I was in middle school when it happened and I remember it being a pretty big deal for at least a solid 2 weeks, but after that there wasn't much attention to it. Cunanan was dead, so there was no interviews with him or a trial to watch.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:I was in middle school when it happened and I remember it being a pretty big deal for at least a solid 2 weeks, but after that there wasn't much attention to it. Cunanan was dead, so there was no interviews with him or a trial to watch. Year round school?
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Sand Monster posted:Penelope Cruz, yeah, but I'm pretty sure Ricky Martin's phone isn't exactly ringing off the hook with acting opportunities. Him being good in this is such a pleasant surprise. The OJ season didn't click with me but I'm board with this one so far. The casting for the minor roles have been spot on, the architect's wife stole the episode she was in.
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Feb 12, 2018 15:33
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Cash Monet posted:The casting for the minor roles have been spot on, the architect's wife stole the episode she was in. That's Judith Light from Who's The Boss?!
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clown shoes posted:That's Judith Light from Who's The Boss?! And Transparent
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Feb 12, 2018 16:43
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Why would you let this guy stay in your apartment?!?
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Feb 15, 2018 04:31
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Woof, that was a harder than normal episode to watch.
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Jeff cutting his own tattoo off with the razorblade  e: oh no it's getting worse OH GOD HOW IS IT GETTING WORSE Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Feb 15, 2018 |
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Feb 15, 2018 08:53
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Jeff cutting his own tattoo off with the razorblade What in particular gets worse?
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Feb 15, 2018 10:17
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This episode was so sad.
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Milo and POTUS posted:What in particular gets worse? 
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:The hanging. I mean, he ended up not going through with it, but watching him struggle with it was really rough Yeah that part was brutal. I was making food
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I tracked down that comic http://www.ep.tc/problems/38/cvr.html Gross
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I don’t know how much more of this season I can stomach; the last two episodes that focused on David and Jeffrey made me so sad. I was near tears when David had that vision of making it to safety and his dad was there with a cup of coffee. That’s the problem with this show, though. Their deaths were obviously a foregone conclusion, but I was still hoping David was going to escape out that bathroom window.
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Feb 15, 2018 20:59
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Show rules. Cunanan's portrayal is diabolic
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Feb 15, 2018 21:09
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That was a great episode. Those guys deserved better than Cunanan. e: So was this crime spree a rampage against closeted men?
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Frosted Flake posted:That was a great episode. Those guys deserved better than Cunanan. I think only as much as to have any level of security and material comfort you have to be closeted as a gay man at this time period. Even Versace, a millionaire in the traditionally feminized domain of fashion design, is conflicted about coming out. Cunanan is mostly a maniac and a grifter, so he's attracted to success, therefore his targets tend to be closeted gay men. The show is about the fact that Cunanan uses the secrecy and shame of homophobic culture to hide, so the personal stories tend to be focused on the closeted lives of his victims.
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I was 12 when the whole Cunanan thing happened and it didn’t become a big nationwide deal until the Versace murder. Then it was by far the biggest item on the news with Miami going into Boston Bombing-level lockdown and armed police going door to door. The media played catch-up saying “yeah, he had been at it for months now”. At least how I recall it.
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