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Yes, she's right and Kurt Angle is a sexist.  |
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No, she's just looking for an out to escape a beating  |
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It can be both, you goddamn idiot.  |
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THE BIG DOG!  |
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No guys, the company will be ok with VInce idiotic daughter and her doofus son in law.
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Feb 8, 2018 12:06
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Feb 8, 2018 12:42
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One thing i've learned from Vince McMahon is that you should definitely spend 10's of millions of dollars on your spouse to lose US Senate races, and then try to resurrect a failed football league. Nothing could go wrong.
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Feb 8, 2018 12:44
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Gonz posted:One thing i've learned from Vince McMahon is that you might be an idiot and still make lots of cash
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Feb 8, 2018 12:55
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DoctorGonzo posted:One thing i've learned from Vince McMahon is that you might be an idiot and still make lots of cash To be fair, every other wrestling promotion/promoter in this world has proved this isn't true.
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Feb 8, 2018 13:01
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Jerusalem posted:To be fair, every other wrestling promotion/promoter in this world has proved this isn't true.
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Feb 8, 2018 13:30
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DarkstarIV posted:My problem with submissions in WWE is that if a babyface taps out, it generally makes them look bad (and creative will go out of their way to reflect that in the future), unless the person who applies the finisher is a submission specialist. I would prefer the babyface to pass out over tapping out. It essentially serves the same purpose but also keeps the babyface looking somewhat strong. Remember when Foley put himself in the mandible claw to pass out rather than tap to Shamrock's ankle lock and Shamrock went nuts over it? gently caress that was cool.
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Feb 8, 2018 13:38
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Angry Grimace posted:Holy poo poo, this is McMahon as gently caress. From the new Wrestling Observer that just came out: I can't even imagine being surprised by this
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Feb 8, 2018 14:03
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A match for the local market https://twitter.com/NederlandWWE/status/961575836175478784
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Feb 8, 2018 14:07
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DoctorGonzo posted:No guys, the company will be ok with VInce idiotic daughter and her doofus son in law. 
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Feb 8, 2018 14:10
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It's been known for the better part of two decades that the lesson they learned from Austin/McMahon wasn't that "folk hero super-over and relatable to lower and middle class fans Stone Cold Steve Austin beats up boss" is the thing that got over but "someone feuding with a Member Of The McMahon Family" is why it made money they are dumb but a monopoly so have no reason to ever learn
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Feb 8, 2018 14:13
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Bard Maddox posted:one of the better WWE finishes of the last few years was the 4 Horsewomen four-way in NXT where Sasha put Charlotte in the Banks Statement for so long that she was able to get a pin with ease because Charlotte was too tired from the submission to kick out Well, also just surprised at Sasha switching it up. And the commentators sold it very poorly - hell, there was quite a story to be told about the difficulty of getting a submission victory in a Fatal 4-Way (how wrestlers will hold off even longer, because they know someone will be coming). With Charlotte (Figure 8, though Natural Selection was more her finisher in NXT), Sasha (Bank Statement), Becky Lynch (Dis-arm-her) and Bayley, it was an interesting match in this way. Jerusalem posted:To be fair, every other wrestling promotion/promoter in this world has proved this isn't true. Well, there's a market for pro wrestling. Most people want to give money to the mainstream option (this is basically true of all media), and all other promoters are somewhere between having the massive problem of going from a small business to a medium business (1,000 seat arena to 20,000), and ludicrous levels of incompetence (ECW, WCW). The market situations, being smart in the 80s, and having incredibly stupid opponents is what has made McMahon rich.
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Feb 8, 2018 14:18
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To join in Submission chat, I think the problem with submissions is that the WWE sells submissions as pain based and not injury based Like, guys don't tap out in MMA because the move hurts, they tap out because if they don't they will suffer a career ending injury. You can't gut your way out of an arm bar. If its in, you tap or snap. If WWE started selling submissions as essentially career destroying moves instead of "stuff that hurts real bad" it would serve them well
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Tough to do when your biggest star is a superhero whose motto is Never Give Up jesus WEP fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Feb 8, 2018 |
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:It's been known for the better part of two decades that the lesson they learned from Austin/McMahon wasn't that "folk hero super-over and relatable to lower and middle class fans Stone Cold Steve Austin beats up boss" is the thing that got over but "someone feuding with a Member Of The McMahon Family" is why it made money Reminder that Owens has been in 1 continuous storyline for like 9 months mostly due to McMahons. Sure AJ has dipped in and out and it switched from US Title to WWE Title but it's literally been 1 storyline. That's after 2016 where he wrestled a grand total of like 4 people for 40+ shows (Roman, Rollins, Sami,... im sure there was someone else). Even just the "Owens mad at Shane" part has been a solid 6 months. Owens needs out of this eternal McMahon feud limbo. Even if this led to Owens and Daniel Bryan vs Shane and Kenny Omega in a TLC match it wouldn't be worth it.
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Feb 8, 2018 14:56
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Blaise330 posted:Even if this led to Owens and Daniel Bryan vs Shane and Kenny Omega in a TLC match it wouldn't be worth it. Well let's not say anything rash now
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Feb 8, 2018 15:07
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Meanwhile Sami vs Ibushi gets 9 minutes on the preshow
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Blaise330 posted:Even if this led to Owens and Daniel Bryan vs Shane and Kenny Omega in a TLC match it wouldn't be worth it. 
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Feb 8, 2018 15:41
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Blaise330 posted:Even if this led to Owens and Daniel Bryan vs Shane and Kenny Omega in a TLC match it wouldn't be worth it. 
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Feb 8, 2018 15:46
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When did that switch with submissions start? How did we go from no shame in tapping to Kurt Angle's Ankle Lock, especially if he grapevined the leg, to HHH refusing to tap to a Kimura Lock applied multiple times for minutes at a time?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39SrM-5K-wo The indys seem fun.
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bartok posted:When did that switch with submissions start? How did we go from no shame in tapping to Kurt Angle's Ankle Lock, especially if he grapevined the leg, to HHH refusing to tap to a Kimura Lock applied multiple times for minutes at a time? St Evan Echoes posted:when your biggest star is a superhero whose motto is Never Give Up
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Feb 8, 2018 15:58
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bartok posted:When did that switch with submissions start? How did we go from no shame in tapping to Kurt Angle's Ankle Lock, especially if he grapevined the leg, to HHH refusing to tap to a Kimura Lock applied multiple times for minutes at a time? When Vince decided tapping out is what weak people do. So probably around the start of Cena's The Guy push
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Feb 8, 2018 15:59
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DarkstarIV posted:Submission finishes are great when done correctly. The problem is that WWE rarely (if ever) follows through on them correctly. Usually what ends up happening is the face or heel who taps out ends up falling down the card, and the audience having no reason to continue investing in them as a result, unless said face or heel gets comeuppance on the person who tapped them out. And the window of opportunity for that is really small. Increasing the rate of those passing out spots will do a good job of making the tap out spots worse, though. What I'd say is actually the stronger suggestion is that pass-out finishes should practically always be followed by an injury angle, selling the idea that there are actually consequences for a stubborn refusal to tap out. If you're consistent on that front, then tap out finishes become something you can justify with the idea that "I was beat, I knew I was beat, and I didn't want to have to spend six weeks or six months rehabbing an injury because I was too stubborn to admit it. I'll spend that time getting stronger instead of getting healthy." If you pay a price for the pass out finish, it'll normalize the tap outs, and it keeps those pass-out finishes for big drama moments. There's great babyface material to be mined from tap outs, but WWE seems particularly bad at that. EDIT: Mel Mudkiper posted:To join in Submission chat, I think the problem with submissions is that the WWE sells submissions as pain based and not injury based Glossed right over this, but exactly.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:05
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bradzilla posted:When Vince decided tapping out is what weak people do. So probably around the start of Cena's The Guy push To be fair "heroes never tap" goes as far back as the Bret/Austin match
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Feb 8, 2018 16:12
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WHY???????????? https://twitter.com/shanemcmahon/status/961615883700404225
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Feb 8, 2018 16:12
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I for one, cannot wait for Dolph Ziggler vs Shinsuke Nakamura at Wrestlemania! Or Baron Corbin vs Nakamura at Wrestlemania!!! 
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Feb 8, 2018 16:13
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Dolph/Shin Mania let's do thiiiiiiiis?
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Feb 8, 2018 16:14
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When even the marky twitterverse is rolling their eyes
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Feb 8, 2018 16:14
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Honestly ppvs between rumble and mania are a terrible idea The main event should be clear after rumble and built towards.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:16
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Why not just have somebody attack both of them and make it a fatal five way.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:17
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lmfao shane fucks AJ over again in an effort to mess with Sami/Kevin
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Feb 8, 2018 16:17
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For all the poo poo (rightfully so) that Stephanie McMahon gets, at least she's been absent/not invasive with regards to storylines for the past few months.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:19
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Neither Ziggler or Corbin are in the Smackdown Top 10
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Feb 8, 2018 16:23
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rovert posted:Neither Ziggler or Corbin are in the Smackdown Top 10 Was it ever explained what the point of the Smackdown Top 10 actually does? I remember listening to Bryan Alvarez rant about it yesterday on WOL.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:25
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rovert posted:Neither Ziggler or Corbin are in the Smackdown Top 10 The list seemed like a Daniel Bryan thing so Shane choosing someone not on it would be in keeping with their little feud I guess?
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Feb 8, 2018 16:26
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DarkstarIV posted:For all the poo poo (rightfully so) that Stephanie McMahon gets, at least she's been absent/not invasive with regards to storylines for the past few months. This is with an aim to make her apparently the next Austin. They're not even bringing in Ronda to make someone else a big deal to then go on to feud with someone, just skipping straight to McMahon being the mainstream face of the company. They book like a dying territory.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:26
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Reminds me of TNA's official rankings thing they had for like two months. No way this lasts that long
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rovert posted:Neither Ziggler or Corbin are in the Smackdown Top 10 Neither are Sami or KO 
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