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rare Magic card l00k posted:so where does kyrie for it rank on the all-time one-sided trades list I mean, we need to know what the brooklyn pick turns into first
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pubic works project posted:https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/961644490170679296 whoa are we gonna get more picks for the guy we took on for picks as a salary dump Brooklyn rules
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I can’t believe the Lakers actually made a good trade, wow.
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Paul Zuvella posted:IT was a rare combo of a player who was a net negative on the court AND a huge clubhouse cancer. Dude rolled onto a team that was mid surge, played like poo poo and then blamed literally everyone but himself. I've never seen a player do that before. he might be the worst starter in the league(and im like 99% sure he is by production and its probably not even close) and the first thing he did was start a feud with the teams second best player?? who was having an outstanding season??
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https://twitter.com/isaiahthomas/status/953427364897271808 well
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Paul Zuvella posted:IT was a rare combo of a player who was a net negative on the court AND a huge clubhouse cancer. Dude rolled onto a team that was mid surge, played like poo poo and then blamed literally everyone but himself. I've never seen a player do that before. Even if you discount the possibility of IT getting his legs back under him, him sucking should have no impact on your decision making. He sucks? He's gone in the summer anyway. Locker room hates him and he's a net negative? Cut him. Clarkson is a nice player but not a great fit next to LeBron offensively and looks more like a "we are looking to go young and flexible instead of doubling down for now" move that will just make it easy for LeBron to walk out again. I'm going to  if this is the straw that breaks LeBron's back
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Paul Zuvella posted:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/961626584179527680 Sorry gotta lay the  on ya
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euphronius posted:Can he play defense Clarkson is good on the drive, bad from three and bad at defense, he’s not that exciting a player
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zoux posted:Sorry gotta lay the I was just about to look for this, thanks.
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WhyteRyce posted:Clarkson is a nice player but not a great fit next to LeBron offensively and looks more like a "we are looking to go young and flexible instead of doubling down for now" move that will just make it easy for LeBron to walk out again. I'm going to That's how I'm thinking about it, it looks a lot more like loading up for the future rather than going all-in. They probably could have netted a higher impact older veteran with that package if they were really interested in fully buying into this year's championship run. Neither Nance or Clarkson are going to solve the problems they have right now. I don't know, I really think I like the trade more for the Lakers Cool Buff Man fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Feb 8, 2018 |
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WhyteRyce posted:Even if you discount the possibility of IT getting his legs back under him, him sucking should have no impact on your decision making. He sucks? He's gone in the summer anyway. Locker room hates him and he's a net negative? Cut him. i dont understand, is that first paragraph from the cavs point of view? are you saying IT is so bad that you should not want to get something in return for him?
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Lol if you told me at this time last year that IT would get traded to the Cavs, turn himself into a pariah, and possibly be a vet minimum guy going into 18-19 I would have called you crazy What a league
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Doltos posted:Great IT3 vs Lavar Ball now Lavar Ball dont waste time with back up point guards
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Athanatos posted:Lavar Ball dont waste time with back up point guards is he not talking to lonzo now
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Ghost Dog posted:i dont understand, is that first paragraph from the cavs point of view? are you saying IT is so bad that you should not want to get something in return for him? In response to the people saying "well IT really sucks and everyone hates him". So what? You don't have to attach a first rounder (or anything) to dump him, or trade for players of questionable fit to LeBron
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So Cavs basically traded Kyrie and a 1st for Clarkson and Nance Jr Good job LeBron
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Athanatos posted:Lavar Ball dont waste time with back up point guards Oh man this will be fun. Maybe the Lakers will try and move IT straight up somewhere before the deadline.
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Space Camp fuckup posted:IT sure wore out his welcome in Cleveland quickly Boo, gently caress that poo poo Also, didn't IT literally say yesterday he was glad to not get traded again?
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I remember the heat on these boards back in August for suggesting the Celtics won the trade deal. One of the few predictions I've ever been correct on. I like this Lakers/Cavs deal for both sides. I've always seen Clarkson as a positive player, and the Cavs literally just need a Guard who doesn't poo poo the bed in their lineup right now. Nance seems like a good rotation player to fill 15-20 min a game for the Cavs, maybe more while covering the Love injury. Deal works for the Lakers too because it gives them a pick and cap flexibility.
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WhyteRyce posted:Even if you discount the possibility of IT getting his legs back under him, him sucking should have no impact on your decision making. He sucks? He's gone in the summer anyway. Locker room hates him and he's a net negative? Cut him. Yeah, this bit. Good that they got rid of IT, just don't see why they'd want Clarkson. Maybe they can make him work but idk euphronius posted:Can he play defense Stats say no. Nance can though, but he's even worse a shooter than Clarkson.
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WhyteRyce posted:Even if you discount the possibility of IT getting his legs back under him, him sucking should have no impact on your decision making. He sucks? He's gone in the summer anyway. Locker room hates him and he's a net negative? Cut him. Clarkson is instantly their best guard on the entire team and Nance Jr. will get rotation minutes at both PF and C. This makes their team better Now for cheap, I dont see how this is a terrible trade for the Cavs. Clarkson can hit open shots and plays off the ball decently. Clarkson is way better than IT, puts them in a better position now. Nance is young, athletic and can play defense. If your argument is that IT sucked so bad that they should cut him, why would trading for decent-good players be a bad thing?
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euphronius posted:Can he play defense Not really, but he probably looks like Bruce Bowen next to IT and Calderon.
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RCarr posted:So Cavs basically traded Kyrie and a 1st for Clarkson and Nance Jr LeBron never wanted to trade Kyrie.
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WhyteRyce posted:In response to the people saying "well IT really sucks and everyone hates him". So what? You don't have to attach a first rounder (or anything) to dump him, or trade for players of questionable fit to LeBron i still dont understand? you think cutting someone or letting them walk for free is in some way objectively better than packaging them in trades for better players?
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CRISPYBABY posted:Not really, but he probably looks like Bruce Bowen next to IT and Calderon. Yeah that's what I'm thinking
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"For just as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts." Isaiah Thomas 5'9"
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Doltos posted:"For just as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts." 
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Just a reminder that IT finished fifth in MVP voting and put up 12.5 winshares last year
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/961648854256046085 Cavs are gonna grease the envelope and get another #1 pick
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I think it's a win-win trade. Clarkson is undeniably talented, definitely one of the best Lakers talent-wise overall, but never has been fully cured of Byron Scott disease (and just in general didn't buy in to the offense), and he's not playing defense on a Lakers team that actually seems to play defense once in a while this season, so his role with the team had slipped, and in fact he almost disappeared completely until Lonzo got hurt. The Cavs actually need someone who can hop into some ISOs when Lebron is off the floor, and while he's not a great three point shooter, he's good enough and will get much better looks on passes from Lebron than passes from Tyler Ennis. He also can be a good point guard, although he seems to hate t o play point guard now, but maybe being with Lebron will reinvigorate that. Losing Nance hurts a lot, he's one of my favorite Lakers. But also he was the odd man out most nights between Kuzma and Randle and small ball lineups. I'm excited to see what he can do on a playoff team. If IT sucks, he sucks, he's a free agent. If he's good, he could actually make the Laker offense work more regularly (it's been working lately but the Lakers have also been shooting way better than usual which is probably a fluke). Chandler Frye is a cool dude, but probably won't actually play a ton. The pick is nice. Lakers definitely need it.
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