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zoux posted:I know it's funny but does anyone else feel kind of bad for IT? I mean going from MVP candidate to people debating if you're washed in less than a year? He seems like a nice enough guy. I did until he started running his mouth, but he's apparently the type of person that blames everyone but themselves for problems so I have no sympathy.
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zoux posted:I know it's funny but does anyone else feel kind of bad for IT? I mean going from MVP candidate to people debating if you're washed in less than a year? He seems like a nice enough guy. Also he's stinkin' rich.
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Feb 9, 2018 16:33
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IT has one of the strangest careers ever and he’s only on his second contract.
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dokmo posted:I know this isn't on people's radar anymore, but if anyone is still wondering if Mirotic said something unforgivable to Portis before getting clocked, the answer is no. i assumed if he'd said something truly vile it would have been leaked.
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dokmo posted:I know this isn't on people's radar anymore, but if anyone is still wondering if Mirotic said something unforgivable to Portis before getting clocked, the answer is no. The dynamics of that team are really weird, in the way everyone circled around Portis. It was probably the weirdest thing in a season with a lot of really weird things. zoux posted:I know it's funny but does anyone else feel kind of bad for IT? I mean going from MVP candidate to people debating if you're washed in less than a year? He seems like a nice enough guy. If he is washed, that sucks and I do feel bad. I think its a bit early to declare that given his injury but the risk was always there. It sucks that he fought really hard to get to the level he was at, got to be there for 15 minutes and then came tumbling down. I don't feel bad that he seems to piss off every locker room he's ever been a part of and can't seem to keep his pissyness to himself. If he didn't open his mouth I don't know if he would have been traded from the Cavs.
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Feb 9, 2018 16:43
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scuz posted:Like, the littlest bit bad. I dunno but I can't imagine a nice enough guy would strong-arm/demand a starting spot on the roster in LA via texting to live-on-the-air Rachel Nichols. eh hes not really that rich. he probably lost like 80 million dollars from having a badly timed hip injury. thats brutal and deserves some sympathy id say. hes not like kevin durant who is, famously, far far richer than the guy who employs him.
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Feb 9, 2018 16:52
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dokmo posted:Yeah but its a weird half measure. If they're planning on lebron staying, they should have used the nets pick for players that moved the needle in a win now move, and if they're thinking hes gone they should have kept the pick. I think it's the right middle ground. They got back enough talent to make some noise in the playoffs and avoid looking like they caused LeBron to leave. And they also positioned themselves to be a playoff team next year while keeping the Nets pick and getting younger.
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Feb 9, 2018 17:06
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https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/961991569980104705 someone's shook
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zoux posted:I know it's funny but does anyone else feel kind of bad for IT? I mean going from MVP candidate to people debating if you're washed in less than a year? He seems like a nice enough guy. Dude should have gotten surgery, and when he came back too early and still hurt started salting the earth every chance he could get with his new team all while they were losing and he was playing like poo poo. Then, immediately after getting jettisoned, he texts the ESPN reporter for the Lakers through his agent that he WILL be starting!!!!. I don't feel bad for him at all.
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scuz posted:Like, the littlest bit bad. I dunno but I can't imagine a nice enough guy would strong-arm/demand a starting spot on the roster in LA via texting to live-on-the-air Rachel Nichols. Stinkin' rich? He's probably the most underpaid basketball player of the last few years. He's been a cock lately though for sure
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Feb 9, 2018 17:10
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Second round picks have such a hard time getting that second big deal . It seems. I forget what happened, did Sacramento sign him to his current deal after 3 years ? Or Phoenix?
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Injuries suck a lot and nobody in sports deserves to get injured. My definition of "stinkin' rich" is "anyone who earns more in one year than I will in the rest of my life" sorry for not being clear about that. Pretty sure that means "every NBA player alive" but this is a dumb derail so let's talk about Thibs isn't dumb enough to go after Derrick Rose since Tyus is doing his job, so where is Rose gonna wind up?
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Feb 9, 2018 17:18
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euphronius posted:Second round picks have such a hard time getting that second big deal . It seems. I forget what happened, did Sacramento sign him to his current deal after 3 years ? Or Phoenix? Phoenix signed him to a 4 year / $27m contract in the summer of `14
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scuz posted:Injuries suck a lot and nobody in sports deserves to get injured. My definition of "stinkin' rich" is "anyone who earns more in one year than I will in the rest of my life" sorry for not being clear about that. Pretty sure that means "every NBA player alive" but this is a dumb derail so let's talk about OK sure, but then you're implying that you have no sympathy for any NBA player just because they make a lot of money and that's not a very nice thing to say! Be happy for them! They do jumps and spins for the whole world to fall in love with
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Feb 9, 2018 17:21
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Space Camp fuckup posted:Phoenix signed him to a 4 year / $27m contract in the summer of `14 That seems right in retrospect considering his limitations l.
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euphronius posted:That seems right in retrospect considering his limitations l. How do you mean? He deserved 27 million for his performance last year alone
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Feb 9, 2018 17:26
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Henchman of Santa posted:IT has one of the strangest careers ever and he’s only on his second contract. That second contract is humorous in hindsight because part of Phoenix's selling point was that it finally gives him the stability
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Feb 9, 2018 17:28
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Cool Buff Man posted:How do you mean? He deserved 27 million for his performance last year alone That defense.
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Feb 9, 2018 17:29
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This is why I don't understand people saying "well he's just an entertainer so he has to do things like this". He clearly believes his own bullshit and gets super salty when his mega awesome trade ideas don't actually happen
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Feb 9, 2018 17:29
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Actually cool buff man I think you will see that the real star in Boston is Brad “the basketball rainman” Stevens. A jar of Prego brand tomato and basil pasta sauce would have averaged 24/6 in his system, so actually Thomas was overpaid
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WhyteRyce posted:This is why I don't understand people saying "well he's just an entertainer so he has to do things like this". He clearly believes his own bullshit and gets super salty when his mega awesome trade ideas don't actually happen https://twitter.com/lukezim/status/961994399545806849
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Redgrendel2001 posted:That defense. So he "in retrospect" deserves less than 7 million per year? I don't think so pal, he had some really good stats before and after he arrived in Boston but I don't think this is going anywhere so let's just drop it! Paul Zuvella posted:Actually cool buff man I think you will see that the real star in Boston is Brad “the basketball rainman” Stevens. A jar of Prego brand tomato and basil pasta sauce would have averaged 24/6 in his system, so actually Thomas was overpaid True, true. Can't argue that
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I think the Cavs did a pretty good job by creating the New Cavs. LeBron's already back to really hating Dan Gilbert (as he should) so I don't know if there's any chance he stays, but it looks like they improved the team and that if LeBron likes playing with these new guys they can basically all come back for another year (Hood is the only question mark there). If George Hill still has anything left in the tank he should be a very good fit next to LeBron, hitting open shots and able to play either on or off ball. Jordan Clarkson is the type of guard off the bench the Cavs have been looking for for awhile (a better Rose). Hood is likely a good three point shooting wing, which is always something good to surround LeBron with, and Nance is a solid rotational big. Bad contract watch: TT still has 2 more years and $36m left on his contract, JR Smith 2/30. Meanwhile Kevin Love has one year @ $24m and then a player option. Korver's got 2/15 and will be 38-years-old at the end of that deal. Post-LeBron era, the Cavs could be running out something like: Brooklyn pick Hood Cedi Nance Zizic?
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It traded years for AAV Everyone knew in 14 that the cap was going to explode in 16 just like his hips. He could have done two years and been a FA in 16.
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euphronius posted:It traded years for AAV His agent is apparently very, very stupid. The Ramona episode threw that one out there. Good luck Isaiah you will be lucky to clear 50 million in career earnings now
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Cool Buff Man posted:OK sure, but then you're implying that you have no sympathy for any NBA player just because they make a lot of money and that's not a very nice thing to say! Be happy for them! They do jumps and spins for the whole world to fall in love with
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IT would have gotten a max if his hip wasnt injured. also he lost out on like a 400% increase in his earnings and will never, ever, ever get another shot at having it which is pretty hard to swallow in the capitalist dystopia we live in
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Cool Buff Man posted:So he "in retrospect" deserves less than 7 million per year? I don't think so pal, he had some really good stats before and after he arrived in Boston but I don't think this is going anywhere so let's just drop it! I was referring to your $27m figure. Euphronius is right; the Suns contract was pretty reasonable for both parties at the time.
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scuz posted:My bad, I did not mean to imply that. Injuries suck and I do not wish them on any sports athlete, and even worse, going from the season that IT had with Boston before getting traded and then traded again in the same season is awful, especially for his family. Agreed. I do wish "underpaid" meant earning 6+ million per year for myself though, have to admit Ghost Dog posted:IT would have gotten a max if his hip wasnt injured. also he lost out on like a 400% increase in his earnings and will never, ever, ever get another shot at having it which is pretty hard to swallow in the capitalist dystopia we live in Yep, that's where I've been coming from. The dialogue last year was about how Boston was going to have to give him a max to stay. Just because he got hurt and died and has sucked for 13 whole games doesn't erase the fact that he was a very very good basketball player who was on a bargain bin contract.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:I was referring to your $27m figure. Euphronius is right; the Suns contract was pretty reasonable for both parties at the time. Gotcha, but I still think many people/teams would have paid him 27 million for the year he had last year. All that money should go to Brad but still
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It's gonna be awkward when Celtics bring IT back for MLE
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The Cavs also signed Kendrick Perkins, apparently lol
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There's a lot of complaining on the internet today about the TNT broadcast of the Celtics-Wizards last night. Was Marv really that bad? lol heres an open letter I came across on reddit quote:I'm writing this email as a lifelong fan and avid viewer of NBA basketball.
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Bryan Colangelo posted:"There's always a chance that he's going to be out there soon, and there's a chance that he's not gonna play this year. I can't answer that question because we don't know the answer to that." Wow some really helpful Fultz news
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euphronius posted:He's broken Hahah yeah jeez I just saw https://twitter.com/DerekBodnerNBA/status/961983699876306949?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw I pray for him daily
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