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WampaLord posted:You can't mention Gay Bar and not post the amazing music video: I swear, this video of theirs and the one for "Danger! High Voltage!" were two that I first saw when I was drunk, and I looked over and asked my wife, "Did I just dream that?" for both videos. Edit: holy crap, I found the censored video! Now... have a gander and tell me that the whipping sounds don't make this song sound inherently naughtier. And while you're at it, try to find the censor who thought the mere mention of a totally non-existent war, just the use of the word "war," was too racy and edgy in 2002, but literally everything else in the lyrics and video were A-OK. (I'm not saying anything bad about gays or gayness here--I'm just amazed that someone who deems the word "war" too dangerous wouldn't also be the kind of person who would be offended by "the Gay Agenda®.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IslF_EyhMzg tarlibone fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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You can't mention hilarious censorship without posting this masterpiece! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJvDtF1ios Prink...
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Feb 10, 2018 18:55
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Or this collection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCcKBcZzGdA
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Feb 10, 2018 19:16
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The really ironic bit is that Because I Got High is anti-drugs. (or at least that drugs shouldn't be your whole life)
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Feb 10, 2018 19:58
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WampaLord posted:You can't mention Gay Bar and not post the amazing music video: This is the only music video I'm familiar with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW8lHtHFZKI
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Feb 10, 2018 21:10
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Season 2 better have an actual musical number. Actually scratch that, just a whole musical episode, that turns out to be the result of some literal alien earworm that induces dancing and singing in its victims and Isaac, being inorganic but also capable of replicating every high note, is called upon to stop them. Either by singing Friday, or something less copyrighted.
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Feb 11, 2018 01:39
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evilmiera posted:Season 2 better have an actual musical number. So that one Buffy episode, but in space? ...Yeah, okay. I'm down with that.
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Feb 11, 2018 03:06
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TheCenturion posted:Define “do better.” As I understand, the problem wasn't that plot in and of itself - it was that Star Trek's first and only same-sex couple lasted for only a few episodes. No matter the cause of death, a lot of people would inevitably be not okay with that.
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Feb 11, 2018 03:24
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Cockmaster posted:As I understand, the problem wasn't that plot in and of itself - it was that Star Trek's first and only same-sex couple lasted for only a few episodes. No matter the cause of death, a lot of people would inevitably be not okay with that. So you didn't watch Beyond?
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Feb 11, 2018 03:49
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It wasn't even Star Trek's first same sex couple.
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Feb 11, 2018 03:59
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Tunicate posted:So you didn't watch Beyond? If you sneezed at the wrong time you could miss the relevant part. Real brave, that.
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Feb 11, 2018 04:00
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TheCenturion posted:Define “do better.” I totally agree. Saying "we should do better" is like saying "thoughts and prayers," now that I think about it. I would like for LBGT representation in media to become normalized so that the scenario above can happen more often in general, I guess.
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Feb 11, 2018 06:57
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Cojawfee posted:It wasn't even Star Trek's first same sex couple. What? Next thing you'll try to tell me is that Discovery doesn't have the first black lead actor!
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Feb 11, 2018 11:20
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Astroman posted:What? Next thing you'll try to tell me is that Discovery doesn't have the first black lead actor! ... who they killed off, by the way. Not even a fun death fit for a funeral, either; he just vanished.
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Feb 11, 2018 19:30
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tarlibone posted:... who they killed off, by the way. Not even a fun death fit for a funeral, either; he just vanished. what the gently caress?
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Feb 11, 2018 19:32
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Koalas March posted:what the gently caress? He’s talking about Captain Benjamin Sisko, who’s end is.... confusing.
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Feb 11, 2018 19:54
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VanSandman posted:He’s talking about Captain Benjamin Sisko, who’s end is.... confusing. Ohh I though he was talking about Disco, but that makes more sense. Sisko's end was something all right.
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Feb 11, 2018 19:59
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Sisko didn't really vanish, and(at the actor's urging towards the writing staff) he said that he would be back soon. The books(not that they are canon) say that he returned in time for the birth of his kid.
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Feb 11, 2018 20:21
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Yeah, of all things Trek what I want most is a wrap up of the Sisko story. It would actually be cool to see an obsessive Jake (like in the one episode with an alternate future) searching for his dad.
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Feb 11, 2018 20:55
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I think Jake being obsessive in post DS9 would feel weird because he both literally and metaphorically couldn’t let go of his dad in The Visitor. Jake’s ending in DS9 is much more.. I don’t know, healthy?
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Feb 11, 2018 21:05
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tarlibone posted:This kind of nonsense is everywhere, to be fair. I mean, I can still remember seeing the video for "Gay Bar" by Electric Six for the first time. It's crazy and funny. Then I saw it again, not too long later. It was on some TV channel that was still playing music, but not MTV (I know, hardy-har-har). So nothing visual in the video is censored--you still have a bunch of Abe Lincolns in hotpants--but the words "war" and "nuclear war" are replaced with whip sounds. Thanks to this arbitrary bit of censorship, we're left with these pristine lyrics that could offer offense to naught the daintiest of babies' ears....: At least in the UK those lines were "Let's do an edit. Do a radio edit. AT THE GAY BAR". And that was much funnier than a whip crack would be.
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Feb 11, 2018 21:13
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I’d just like to say the wife and I just binged this show on Hulu and enjoyed it. We are excited for next season. I think it will be more enjoyable week to week, since it’s not serial binging is not as much fun.
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Feb 11, 2018 21:16
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Kibayasu posted:I think Jake being obsessive in post DS9 would feel weird because he both literally and metaphorically couldn’t let go of his dad in The Visitor. Jake’s ending in DS9 is much more.. I don’t know, healthy? But its not like there is a big difference in the characters and circumstances of his fathers disappearance. There is nothing to that demonstrates Jake would respond differently from one situation to the next.
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swickles posted:But its not like there is a big difference in the characters and circumstances of his fathers disappearance. There is nothing to that demonstrates Jake would respond differently from one situation to the next. In The Visitor, Sisko was sucked into some kind of time hole with no explanation whatsoever, hence Jake's obsession. By the end of the series, Jake had grown up quite a bit more (he was on the station during the Dominion occupation), had Cassidy Yates there and his half-brother on the way, and Sisko came to Cassidy and said he'd be back (which presumably she told Jake about). So there's no reason to believe that he'd go on some obsessive hunt trying to get him back under those circumstances. What's weirder about the situation is that Sisko would visit Cassidy in a vision and not, well, his son. Maybe it could be rationalized that she needed the extra assurance because Jake better understood all the Prophets mumbo-jumbo.
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Feb 11, 2018 21:48
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Taear posted:At least in the UK those lines were "Let's do an edit. Do a radio edit. AT THE GAY BAR". And that was much funnier than a whip crack would be. That is priceless.
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Feb 11, 2018 22:27
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Peachfart posted:Sisko didn't really vanish, and(at the actor's urging towards the writing staff) he said that he would be back soon. The books(not that they are canon) say that he returned in time for the birth of his kid. He's Space Jesus that exists outside of linear time, quite a bit different than dead or vanished. He can come back whenever he wants, it was even explicit in the show. He's just chilling inside a lens flare for a bit.
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I agree it's a misstep that Sisko didn't come back for a goodbye with Jake but I don't think it clashes with The Visitor because as mentioned Jake had grown up and become much more independent by that point. Not that every series needs to bookend it's scenes but I think thematically ending the series with Jake and his Dad having a moment where they go different directions would have been appropriate. I do like that Sisko didn't just fly off into the sunset to continue having wacky Star Trek episodes, he had very definitive conclusion, or at least unless you decide to dive into the book canon.
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Season one of the Orville my hope was that it would be a new, fun Star Trek that told proper sci fi stories, without the humour being completely overbearing, and they smashed that. Season two of the Orville my hope is that they lean further into the sci fi and do a bit of world-building with the setting. Turn the humour down a tiny bit more and let it flow naturally from the character interactions, and chill out with the constant 21st century pop culture references. And I hope they get more confident with the stories about social issues stuff. On the rewatch one of the episodes I didn't really dig at the time, the one where Lamarr gets jailed on social-media-mob-justice planet, was actually really good second time around. I'm a massive Twitterati, SJW type but it does communicate pretty well that dumb, judgemental landsliding on people is a genuine thing that happens and it's not good guys, it's not good. The whole episode was a big obvious allegory for something I'm normally inclined to pretend isn't a real problem and that stuff doesn't have to be deftly done to be well done.
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Feb 13, 2018 21:14
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I hope there's more humor in season 2 just to spite all the joyless assholes that can't handle a loving joke now and then
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Tighclops posted:I hope there's more humor in season 2 just to spite all the joyless assholes that can't handle a loving joke now and then Same.
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Feb 14, 2018 20:31
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Agreed. It makes it feel more relatable to me. Nobody in any service talks about anything except dicks and farts. 
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Feb 14, 2018 20:32
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I don't mind having humor, I just wish there was less 20th/21st century reference humor, like "Haha this guys name sounds like this brand name product isn't that funny" gets pretty old after the 2nd time.
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There were some really funny jokes in Orville, like the whole thing with the leg or most of the stuff Bortus did. It was just painfully obvious what was an organic funny joke that flowed with the scene, and what was Seth bringing everything to a halt so he could tell an unfunny joke and then bask in how bad and unfunny it was, like he deserved a cookie for being aware that his unfunny joke was unfunny.
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counterfeitsaint posted:It was just painfully obvious what was an organic funny joke that flowed with the scene, and what was Seth bringing everything to a halt so he could tell an unfunny joke and then bask in how bad and unfunny it was, like he deserved a cookie for being aware that his unfunny joke was unfunny. 
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I don't think anyone wants less humour in The Orville, just less forced *insert 21st century target audience joke here* and more stuff like the leg prank, stuff that naturally flows from the situations and characters.
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gordon's whole thing is that he's a 21st century obsessive. pay attention to the circumstances of when our present day is referenced - it almost always involves gordon. similarly, ed is really bad at humor and always goes for the dad jokes. that's a character trait that serves as a meta-joke rather than any of the jokes being funny by themselves. maybe the show would be better with less of those things - i don't personally think so, but that's a matter of taste. but it is at least character-driven humor rather than being solely referential
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counterfeitsaint posted:There were some really funny jokes in Orville, like the whole thing with the leg or most of the stuff Bortus did. Some were both. Like the uncomfortable elevator ride jokes. Everything stops so you can have this dumb elevator scene, but at the same time those elevator rides are part of the character's lives and we can relate to that.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Some were both. Like the uncomfortable elevator ride jokes. Everything stops so you can have this dumb elevator scene, but at the same time those elevator rides are part of the character's lives and we can relate to that. I like those scenes, but yeah, they could've been placed better/more sparingly.
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Feb 14, 2018 21:20
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Everything Bortus says is hilarious. The more elaborate jokes involving Isaac are also great.
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Jazerus posted:gordon's whole thing is that he's a 21st century obsessive. pay attention to the circumstances of when our present day is referenced - it almost always involves gordon. It would be pretty funny if Gordon was the equivalent of an insufferable steampunk enthusiast. Instead of a thrift store pocket watch and overly ornate sunglasses he carries an iPod Shuffle in his breast pocket and uses a wrist watch while everybody else has that poo poo built into their contact lenses.
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