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Soothing Vapors posted:MMA confessions: I have trouble remembering which one is Chris Weidman and which one is Luke Rockhold unless I'm looking directly at a picture of one of them Are you sure you didn't get that backwards? From a distance they are both square-jawed white dudes in the looks department, but if I gave you their names, it shouldn't take you 2 seconds to tell me which one is the New York guy who knocked off the spider at the height of his powers and which one got KO'd hilariously by old man Bisping.
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Yeah how could you confuse the two bland idiots with bland idiot names who are supposed to be good but keep getting KOed terribly. One of them had a good win 5 years ago.
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Feb 12, 2018 17:42
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ones taller
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Feb 12, 2018 18:42
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Holy gently caress, weidman/silva 1 WAS 5 goddamn years ago.
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Eat This Glob posted:Holy gently caress, weidman/silva 1 WAS 5 goddamn years ago. help im dying
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Feb 12, 2018 18:49
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Jack Slack analysis of Rockhold/Romero and the rest of the card too
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Feb 12, 2018 19:27
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Matt Lindland posted:Yeah how could you confuse the two bland idiots with bland idiot names who are supposed to be good but keep getting KOed terribly. One of them had a good win 5 years ago. One of them is in the 3rd or 4th-most played UFC clip ever. That might help.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:32
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One beat Vitor. One did not.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:37
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Eat This Glob posted:Holy gently caress, weidman/silva 1 WAS 5 goddamn years ago. My MMA opinions and predictions are wildly inaccurate these days because I followed the sport obsessively 5 years ago and have been mostly casual since then. I'll be like, "Oh man, Jake Ellenberger is fighting, that should be good" and then check in on his record over the last few years and go....oh. I'm starting to understand why I saw so many people relentlessly defending lovely Pride fighters in the late 00's/early 10's. Once you've registered a guy as 'good' it takes a long time for your brain to remove them from that category, regardless of how they've been doing lately cause you just have the highlight real memories and forget about the plodding slow losses.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:46
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Edit: Double post. My bad. Computer went wonky.
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mewse posted:Jack Slack analysis of Rockhold/Romero and the rest of the card too He seems to completely discount Yoel's cross arm / turtle guard. If Rockhold was kicking to the body a lot more, it wouldn't be useful, but for the shorter guy to deflect incoming straight punches, it's not a bad technique, especially as Yoel seemed to have Rockhold's respect for takedown threat off body kicks. I like the shoutout for Adenaya's waist flick jab. Not for everyone but if you have good reflexes and a reach advantage, can definitely be a good tool.
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Feb 12, 2018 21:33
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I thought rockhold did a much better job of boxing and moving his head off the center line, but only when he was using his new tools. The counter right and the body kick both looked like old rockhold where he does the right thing at the right time but in a very exaggerated way
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Feb 12, 2018 22:06
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Gay Horney posted:I thought rockhold did a much better job of boxing and moving his head off the center line, but only when he was using his new tools. The counter right and the body kick both looked like old rockhold where he does the right thing at the right time but in a very exaggerated way Slack's point that Rockhold doesn't know how to move laterally was pretty much spot on
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Feb 12, 2018 22:08
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He kinda does though. There were a couple combos yoel threw that had rockhold ducking weaving and pivoting. I did only watch the fight one time maybe they were really telegraphed
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Feb 12, 2018 22:18
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Gay Horney posted:He kinda does though. There were a couple combos yoel threw that had rockhold ducking weaving and pivoting. I did only watch the fight one time maybe they were really telegraphed Rockhold seemed to be reacting to Romero's flurries by throwing his guard up and frantically backing away, and then when Yoel got him against the cage he didn't know what to do. The gif Slack used to illustrate this was when Yoel got like 6 brutal unanswered punches to Rockhold's ribs in the clinch
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Feb 12, 2018 22:21
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Rockhold's punch combos are too slow. He has the speed, but still fires out strikes at half the tempo he needs to. He needs to get to another comfort level to really open up, to be able to cover more ground while punching in, to quit a combo early, and to draw enough defensive commitment to land kicks on open targets. His jab has so much promise, but we'll see what happens between fights.
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Feb 12, 2018 22:39
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kimbo305 posted:Rockhold's punch combos are too slow. He has the speed, but still fires out strikes at half the tempo he needs to. He needs to get to another comfort level to really open up, to be able to cover more ground while punching in, to quit a combo early, and to draw enough defensive commitment to land kicks on open targets. His jab has so much promise, but we'll see what happens between fights. Agreed, I thought this Bisping knock out was because he was taking the piss and being too relaxed not taking Bisping seriously, but he threw the same relaxed punches in this fight as well so I guess that's just how he punches.
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Feb 12, 2018 23:21
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https://twitter.com/zabit_mma/status/963139533934968832
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MysteryNad posted:i for one am glad that mousasi is over in bellator where he can win questionable decisions over guys that were easily beaten by tito ortiz Remember when he outlanded Keith Jardine 7 to 1 and still got taken down like 6 times and got a draw? He seems determined to ensure that I can never get a bead on how good he actually is.
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Feb 12, 2018 23:25
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Its cool that rockhold still backs straight up under flurries, and it made me of the time someone on here got personally mad at me when i said hed lose to vitor again
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Feb 13, 2018 00:31
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Ugh. Weak if true. Zabit is loving awesome and it's sad if he can't get a fight. Same thing seems to be happening with Taisumov.
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Feb 13, 2018 00:55
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Wasn't Rockhold going to make some career announcement thing a couple months back, or did he get distracted convincing a girl to cheat on their spouse with him and forget
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maffew buildings posted:Wasn't Rockhold going to make some career announcement thing a couple months back, or did he get distracted convincing a girl to cheat on their spouse with him and forget Yeah, before Romero killed him he said he's moving to LHW, since DC is now at HW and retiring soon, and because the cut to MW is getting harder.
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Feb 13, 2018 09:46
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Was it the talk of moving to 205? He said as much today, can't remember when he started with that talk though.
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Feb 13, 2018 09:46
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There should be a 130 140 150 155 lb division 165 175 185 division a 200 lb division a 235 lb division and a division bigger than that. If I'm missing some fly weight division suck my dick. Would fix so many problems in life
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Feb 13, 2018 10:00
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if one of your problems is that you think there's so much talent at heavyweight that there needs to be a way of having 50% of them disappear then yeah
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Feb 13, 2018 11:40
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Everyone who can't make 185 is a heavyweight.
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CRISPYBABY posted:I'm starting to understand why I saw so many people relentlessly defending lovely Pride fighters in the late 00's/early 10's. Once you've registered a guy as 'good' it takes a long time for your brain to remove them from that category, regardless of how they've been doing lately cause you just have the highlight real memories and forget about the plodding slow losses. The solution to this is to not watch fights. The last fight I watched was in 2010 and as a result the Pride guys I've registered as "good" can never be removed. Pride NEVER die.
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Feb 13, 2018 13:20
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Marching Powder posted:Everyone who can't make 185 is a heavyweight. Johny Hendricks vs Mark Hunt.
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Feb 13, 2018 13:58
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Wise Learned Man posted:Yeah, before Romero killed him he said he's moving to LHW, since DC is now at HW and retiring soon, and because the cut to MW is getting harder. After getting brutally knocked out by Michael Bisping, the only solution is to go to the division where they hit harder.
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Feb 13, 2018 14:02
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Dan Didio posted:Johny Hendricks vs Mark Hunt. Precisely.
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Feb 13, 2018 14:27
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Charles Gnarwin posted:After getting brutally knocked out by Michael Bisping, the only solution is to go to the division where they hit harder. This seems like common sense and oftentimes is true, but sometimes the issue of someone's chin is they cut too much weight that they're more likely to be knocked out due to having less fluid around their brain to cushion it from concussive force and moving up in weighr actually helps, despite there being theoretically harder hitters. Rob Whittaker got knocked out by Stephen Thompson and rocked a few other times as a UFC welterweight and is now the undefeated champeen at middleweight.
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Feb 13, 2018 14:41
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That's all true, but it's worth nothing that Rockhold's problem with his chin isn't down to weight-cutting anywhere near as much as it is down to his absolutely porous and pedestrian boxing defense. As much as people like to harp on about Bisping not having any power, the man knows how to throw a punch and Parillo has helped him greatly in putting his weight behind his most meaningful punches and power is one of the less meaningful things when it comes to knocking out someone with bad defence and a tendency to overextend themselves.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:21
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Having a,great chin miiiight help you not get knocked down by a counter straight inside your hook that you dont see coming. Probably not, but maybe. Having a great chin wont help you against that ridiculous uppercut though
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Feb 13, 2018 16:20
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Yeah Rockhold's check right hook has proven to be one of his better weapons but this time it was his undoing.
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Dan Didio posted:That's all true, but it's worth nothing that Rockhold's problem with his chin isn't down to weight-cutting anywhere near as much as it is down to his absolutely porous and pedestrian boxing defense. That may be the case as well, but I would argue then it would only behoove him to move to a division where thee average fighter is substantially slower and shittier than the people he is being matched up with at middleweight
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In addition to being a loving fun fighter who doesn't avoid tough fights even if she doesn't win all of them, Leslie Smith continues to be awesome by taking it on herself to start a UFC fighters' union without the meddling of sketchy agents or anyone named Bjorn: https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/2/..._source=twitter
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CommonShore posted:In addition to being a loving fun fighter who doesn't avoid tough fights even if she doesn't win all of them, Leslie Smith continues to be awesome by taking it on herself to start a UFC fighters' union without the meddling of sketchy agents or anyone named Bjorn: How long before Dana cuts her?
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Trast posted:How long before Dana cuts her? According to the article, she's got a contracted fight coming up, and it's the last fight on her contract. My thinking is they let her finish her contract and not resign her. If she wins this fight against Aspen Ladd (not a Keven-style made-up name, btw) Smith will be on a 3 fight winning streak.
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CommonShore posted:In addition to being a loving fun fighter who doesn't avoid tough fights even if she doesn't win all of them, Leslie Smith continues to be awesome by taking it on herself to start a UFC fighters' union without the meddling of sketchy agents or anyone named Bjorn: this sort of thing is desperately needed
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