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What are good operators to pick up for ranked? I have Smoke and Mute on defense, Ash and Sledge on attack. I try to play mute or ash every time if possible.
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Feb 14, 2018 07:17
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try Hibana instead of ash try Bandit instead of mute attack:
on top of it all these ops have about as much replay value as utility that they bring to the team edit: also if you like ash/sledge then Zofia is basically a sort of hybrid of the two as she has a launcher that basically makes an insta-sledge hole wherever it hits and if you go with hibana - idk why but i swear to got her main rifle (Type 89?) actually somehow loving works better with a silencer than any other attachment Thief fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Feb 14, 2018 07:23
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Oh yeah, whilst I was on the 'what the gently caress are you smoking?' bandwagon, we already have several Defenders who make Shields incredibly sad (Smoke & Lesion, for starters, as well as ELA who makes everyone sad), whilst still being good Operators in their own right, so that makes the desire for a shield wrecking Operator extra wacky.
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Feb 14, 2018 07:37
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Shockeh posted:Oh yeah, whilst I was on the 'what the gently caress are you smoking?' bandwagon, we already have several Defenders who make Shields incredibly sad (Smoke & Lesion, for starters, as well as ELA who makes everyone sad), whilst still being good Operators in their own right, so that makes the desire for a shield wrecking Operator extra wacky. tbh its annoying that some of the shield ops can get into a corner and unless you have the counter you just have to literally watch them forever. Thief posted:
Don't suppressors lower damage? seems bad
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Feb 14, 2018 07:41
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Thief posted:embrace toxicity ftw As a note, unless it's changed recently, Glaz can see through Smoke's warcrime cans. 3 Speeds can skirt the edges without damage sometimes too, it takes a moment. Or that poo poo lingered weird clientside.
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Feb 14, 2018 07:49
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Don't suppressors lower damage? seems bad insignificant DPS loss compared to how much better the weapon handles. if you're that worried about dps you can just use a flash hider but from my experiences the suppressor+acog on this particular rifle makes cheesing headshots much easier than any other options it has fwiw she's my #3 most played attacker w/over 20 nerdy hours experimenting so i'm not just quoting some esports chart i found on reddit
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Feb 14, 2018 08:14
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Thief posted:insignificant DPS loss compared to how much better the weapon handles. if you're that worried about dps you can just use a flash hider but from my experiences the suppressor+acog on this particular rifle makes cheesing headshots much easier than any other options it has I thought all a silencer did was lower the damage and sound, I didn't know it increased handling. BTW what's the difference between flash hider and compensator? Ingame it says the comp is much better but everyone is using flash hider from what I can tell.
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Feb 14, 2018 08:40
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:BTW what's the difference between flash hider and compensator? Ingame it says the comp is much better but everyone is using flash hider from what I can tell. Flash Hider heavily reduces recoil for the first 3 shots. Compensator reduces recoil a little bit for all shots. Flash Hider is better for getting headshots. Compensator is better for magdumping. You should be aiming for headshots. You shouldn't be magdumping.
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Feb 14, 2018 08:56
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:I thought all a silencer did was lower the damage and sound, I didn't know it increased handling. BTW what's the difference between flash hider and compensator? Ingame it says the comp is much better but everyone is using flash hider from what I can tell. It doesn't, but removes tracers and masks sounds allowing you to compensate for a fuckup.
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Feb 14, 2018 08:58
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and if you're coming from ash main practically everything is going to feel like a slight dps nerf anyway, except maybe twitch's famas and fuze's ak
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Feb 14, 2018 08:59
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This weeks challenge made me play a bunch of Echo and I discovered that he's actually a roamer. You just sit your rear end under some desk or in a random toilet during prep, do your normal Yokai work around the objective as usual, but when the poo poo hits the fan you're in a perfect position to get in on them from behind with that silenced SMG. It really made me consider that Echo sitting in some corner inside the objective is a mistake. On a different note, how the gently caress do you play Ying on a normal team that aren't a hivemind capable of perfectly timing everything? I couldn't even find any decent way to use Candela to bang'n'breach from the windows properly, it doesn't seem to last that long. Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Feb 14, 2018 09:08
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Jack Trades posted:
You don't. You just don't.
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Feb 14, 2018 09:19
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keyframe posted:You don't. You just don't. Ying seem to be picked a lot in the Invitational. Every time I try to play her I find the gun to be really crap...
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Feb 14, 2018 09:24
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ying is cool and i think she is a lot of fun. watch them through x-ray hud. use the candela on walls and floors like you would fuze. in terms of timing, think of it like dokkaebi when you know someone is at a bottleneck and ready to push on maps with a lot of roaming room or hallways i sometimes take her shotgun. the chinese pistol is on par with the russian one (slightly bigger mag but slightly less dmg iirc?) so its not like a couple ranged engagements are that big of a problem. this is probably a bad idea once you are climbing out of gold rank but it's fun. the cool thing about shotgun ying is that it sucks for breaching but really kills the poo poo out of people from even medium range thanks to its minimal spread. it pairs with her ability very well when you have to deal with an idiot camping a corner. Jack Trades posted:This weeks challenge made me play a bunch of Echo and I discovered that he's actually a roamer. echo is a great roamer in ranked because the enemy team tends to spawn in several locations so you can gank them one by one much easier than in casual but tbh this kind of applies to any operator and i think they can all roam effectively. the only immediate exception i can think of is mute in that his jammers are almost always best used on or near site to delay breaches/drones. but even then, if you know someone on the other team likes to play a character like jackal a lot you can go to a common rotation area and just put jammers in the most loving annoying spots and grief him when he comes to find you thinking you'll be an easy kill. also nitro is automatically roamer's delight. edit: like rook, idc how good mute is because his ability is pretty boring  but at least he has a unique gun with some cute skin options Thief fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Feb 14, 2018 09:26
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Jack Trades posted:This weeks challenge made me play a bunch of Echo and I discovered that he's actually a roamer. I've been playing Echo as a roamer for a while now, no one expects his fat rear end to walk up behind them while they're droned, it's hilarious. Really wish he was a 2/2 though. As for Mute, I've been leaning towards planting his jammers at key walls and anything else gets thrown in areas to make it harder to find roamers instead. Nebiros fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Feb 14, 2018 09:35
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Shockeh posted:Oh yeah, whilst I was on the 'what the gently caress are you smoking?' bandwagon, we already have several Defenders who make Shields incredibly sad (Smoke & Lesion, for starters, as well as ELA who makes everyone sad), whilst still being good Operators in their own right, so that makes the desire for a shield wrecking Operator extra wacky. I think people get way too reactionary when people are just discussing something like this. I just viewed it as a funny thought exercise 'if you were going to make a shield counter' not HOLY gently caress SHIELDS gently caress THEM LETS MAKE AN ANTI SHIELD TRAP #SHIELDSOPFUCKYOU. Either way, Ubisoft clearly does not take their ideas or inspiration from the SA forums so this is all hot air.
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Feb 14, 2018 11:38
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unlawfulsoup posted:Either way, Ubisoft clearly does not take their ideas or inspiration from the SA forums so this is all hot air. I'll have you know, my uncle works at Ubisoft.
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Feb 14, 2018 11:41
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unlawfulsoup posted:I think people get way too reactionary when people are just discussing something like this. I just viewed it as a funny thought exercise 'if you were going to make a shield counter' not HOLY gently caress SHIELDS gently caress THEM LETS MAKE AN ANTI SHIELD TRAP #SHIELDSOPFUCKYOU. Either way, Ubisoft clearly does not take their ideas or inspiration from the SA forums so this is all hot air. It wasn’t just you though, there was a series of ‘counter shield’ theory drafts, it was rather odd.
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Feb 14, 2018 13:27
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Nebiros posted:It doesn't, but removes tracers and masks sounds allowing you to compensate for a fuckup. Also, people get hung up on the fact that it lowers damage, but all it does is make the gun take one extra bullet to kill. In a game where all the guns fire ten rounds a second, it's fairly insignificant. Blackbeards SR25 is a double-tap kill from across the map, and when you aren't putting out tracers or much sound and you've got your shield up, you've got a LOT of time to sit and wait. I was upside-down peeking on Tower last night and got 3 kills in 45 seconds just waiting like a spider until they popped up in one of their impact holes or the doorway. It actually got me hatemail; apparently BB is a bitch-tier operator for big pussies and takes no skill unlike Ela. The toughest thing to adjust to is the fact that the recoil changes up, but if you force yourself to play with suppressors for a few days you can see why they're very useful.
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Feb 14, 2018 14:02
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unlawfulsoup posted:Either way, Ubisoft clearly does not take their ideas or inspiration from the SA forums so this is all hot air. lol when the Clancyverse adds a consumable energy shield like in elysium meanwhile: https://i.imgur.com/xx3S7GT.webm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOjqwHGMekY
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Feb 14, 2018 14:04
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Shockeh posted:It wasn’t just you though, there was a series of ‘counter shield’ theory drafts, it was rather odd. Sometimes its just fun to brainstorm i think you may be fixating.
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Feb 14, 2018 14:58
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Thief posted:lol when the Clancyverse adds a consumable energy shield like in elysium I am kind of surprised we don't have goofy exo op, just punch through walls.
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Feb 14, 2018 15:02
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ZeusCannon posted:Sometimes its just fun to brainstorm i think you may be fixating. Indeed, theory-crafting is fun.
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Feb 14, 2018 15:16
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Thief posted:lol when the Clancyverse adds a consumable energy shield like in elysium The Ghost Recon F2P game they had for a few years had poo poo like this.
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Feb 14, 2018 16:02
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You guys are my spirit animals. I'm getting better thanks to y'all Soon, I'll be fuzeing the hostage 100% of the time. 
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Feb 14, 2018 16:06
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So one thing I am slowly getting better at is recognizing operator silhouettes. I’m still pretty weak at it though. Is there a resource anywhere where I can see the operators as they appear in game? I know it will come with time through normal play but I’d like to get better at actually calling out who I’m seeing to my team. Some of the ops still look very similar to me at distance and I see better players in videos calling out instantly when they see a few pixels of a head.
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Feb 14, 2018 16:54
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because of the sheer amount of comedy option skins available in this game your best bet is to just use silhouettes as a guide. a big part of it is their location, behavior and sounds they make from footsteps to guns and abilities. unique gear like weapons or helmets help if you want to study the models just look at them in game while you're between matches. you can even examine individual skins in the store using a built in model viewer e: that said ubisoft does do unique things like straps and reflective pieces that are unique to a class. even there will often be skin variants that totally negate this. for example, doc usually has a white shoulder plate. this is a dead giveaway but there is also a black skin that essentially deletes this identifier Thief fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Feb 14, 2018 18:27
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No joke i blame a death I had last night on sledges elite skin. Im not great at parsing it yet so when i looked around a corner my reaction was juuuust slow enough for him to wreck me. Luckily i had a buddy running vigil who carried us but im still a bit ashamed about it.
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Feb 14, 2018 18:31
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I like spending real life money for rainbow but, so I can buy elite skins
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Feb 14, 2018 18:40
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unlawfulsoup posted:Either way, Ubisoft clearly does not take their ideas or inspiration from the SA forums so this is all hot air. there are no R6 devs here, you can talk quietly
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Feb 14, 2018 18:45
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Silencers are bad on paper but cool and good in practice, except on certain guns that just really really need the flash hider/comp to be controllable I guess
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Feb 14, 2018 18:45
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Thief posted:because of the sheer amount of comedy option skins available in this game your best bet is to just use silhouettes as a guide. i still can't tell Vigil apart from a recruit.
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Feb 14, 2018 18:56
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I've been falling in love with Sledge recently. I love going room to room and just clearing it with my shotgun. Smashing holes in the walls and killing anyone inside is so satisfying, especially if I drone them out beforehand and can just smash and instantly put them down like the dogs they are. It makes pushing objective much nicer for the team as we know for a fact that the floors above / below are cleared and safe of roamers.
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Feb 14, 2018 19:09
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Ying I can't seeee!!! https://streamable.com/5d3gz
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Feb 14, 2018 22:42
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so when did ying go from everyone deciding she was awful to being picked in almost literally every single game of the six invitational
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Feb 14, 2018 23:06
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I love Ying's gadget, it's one of my favourites, but god drat I can't play her. People can still just look away and not get flashed, especially if they're tucked in a corner. So I'll trust in my gadget, only to enter a room full of people who can still see just fine. I've since stopped playing her.
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Feb 14, 2018 23:16
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I played for about two hours with a few friends. Every single round the rando on the team picked Ying and team flashed me. Ying can go to hell!
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Feb 14, 2018 23:17
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Did the secondary, less damaging pistols get a buff recently? The never-used GSh-18 does 44 damage (now?) and I don't think it used to do that much. It seems a lot more viable than I remember it.
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Feb 14, 2018 23:27
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Q8ee posted:I love Ying's gadget, it's one of my favourites, but god drat I can't play her. People can still just look away and not get flashed, especially if they're tucked in a corner. So I'll trust in my gadget, only to enter a room full of people who can still see just fine. I've since stopped playing her. Gotta go faster. Ying is immune to her own flashbangs, so use the time theyre going off to be fighting.
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