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Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer
I can literally type a hundred words a minute as long as nobody is watching. The moment someone starts looking over my shoulder, I have to make five attempts at the word "the."

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Hungry Computer posted:

sleep depraved

:laugh:

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe

Thanatosian posted:

I can literally type a hundred words a minute as long as nobody is watching. The moment someone starts looking over my shoulder, I have to make five attempts at the word "the."

:same:

Performance anxiety

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
I generally just hate being standing behind me to watch me do stuff. Dunno why but I spend at least half my brain power constantly going "can I help you?".

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

Hungry Computer posted:

This probably pisses off my cowrokers more than it does me; but when I'm sleep depraved and typing quickly my left had outpaces my right and causes me to constantly make stupid typos. So far my day has been full of gpudpates netwroks and pritners.

This is why I swap my caps lock and backspace keys. I use backspace all the time and its such a stretch to get up to it. Mean while caps lock is in some prime real estate right beside my pinkie. I mean look at it, its right there. Took a week to get the hang of but it was worth it for me. Especially as I was getting some pain in my wrist.

Thanatosian posted:

I can literally type a hundred 70 words a minute as long as nobody is watching. The moment someone starts looking over my shoulder, I have to make five attempts at the word "the."

:same: for me as well

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Shout out to Fortinet who don't seem to think you'd want to apply an asymmetric per-client traffic shaper.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Thanks Ants posted:

Shout out to Fortinet who don't seem to think you'd want to apply an asymmetric per-client traffic shaper.

What FW version are you on? I just went through a lot of pain with traffic shaping and you can do this (provided I'm understanding what you want correctly)

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


5.6 as I'm insane. I can set a per-IP shaper and apply it to a policy (in this case allow LAN traffic outbound to WAN) but it's shaping uploads as well as downloads. Ideally I'd cap each client at a maximum download speed but let them go crazy with the upload.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Thanks Ants posted:

5.6 as I'm insane. I can set a per-IP shaper and apply it to a policy (in this case allow LAN traffic outbound to WAN) but it's shaping uploads as well as downloads. Ideally I'd cap each client at a maximum download speed but let them go crazy with the upload.

Are you only attempting to limit certain IPs and others are unlimited with their downloads? There might be a round-about way of doing this, but it would be easier if you're attempting to limit everyone's download.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I am attempting to do it for everybody. Maybe in the interests of the X Y problem, I am trying to prevent individual users from hogging all our available download capacity (100Mbps), but I don't want to limit the upload because it's a lot rarer that more than one user is ever uploading a load of data - and when they are uploading it's for a good reason so I don't want to cap them.

Currently if two people chose to sync a massive Dropbox folder that some agency has shared with them it ruins things for everybody else.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Just sat through a presentation from our marketing department, on why our company should switch from Trello to either Slack or Office 365

(we don't even use Trello)

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.
Hello, I just found this thread. Is this where I silently scream about users forgetting their password to all our systems every Monday, or sometimes just hours after using them to log in? Or when they send a ticket that says "Printer is down" with no further information or hints to the printer's location, and when I suss out which one the user was referring to it works fine?

I'm a Network Technician with an English degree and I work with 700 idiots. :tipshat:

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Thanks Ants posted:

I am attempting to do it for everybody. Maybe in the interests of the X Y problem, I am trying to prevent individual users from hogging all our available download capacity (100Mbps), but I don't want to limit the upload because it's a lot rarer that more than one user is ever uploading a load of data - and when they are uploading it's for a good reason so I don't want to cap them.

Currently if two people chose to sync a massive Dropbox folder that some agency has shared with them it ruins things for everybody else.

Ok, I think I can help you, it depends if they dropped support for certain CLi commands. Want to take it to PMs?

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

ChubbyThePhat posted:

I generally just hate being standing behind me to watch me do stuff. Dunno why but I spend at least half my brain power constantly going "can I help you?".

Yeah. I get this a lot from one of the Devs we share office space with. Any time he has a problem he will stand at my desk staring at me until I help him. Last incident was last week. I had to tell him 3 times to go sit down and I would be able to help him in a bit before he actually did it.

I don’t really have performance anxiety though. For me it’s mostly the fact that I have to shift gears every 5 minutes and it’s starting to destroy my ability to concentrate on anything. He wants to just get a quick answer and I want to tell him to please not derail something I’ve been trying to close out for 2 days for your stupid minor loving Outlook issue.

Ugato fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Feb 13, 2018

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Bob Morales posted:

Just sat through a presentation from our marketing department, on why our company should switch from Trello to either Slack or Office 365

(we don't even use Trello)

Switch to O365 and get everyone on Teams and Planner.



dont actually do this, everyone will just hate you more

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

Thanatosian posted:

I can literally type a hundred words a minute as long as nobody is watching. The moment someone starts looking over my shoulder, I have to make five attempts at the word "the."

I'm going to make an alias for "sudo rm -rf /*" that is "gerp" and watch as the NSA calls me for my L33t haxxorign skillz.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


MF_James posted:

Ok, I think I can help you, it depends if they dropped support for certain CLi commands. Want to take it to PMs?

Sure

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

The Fool posted:

Switch to O365 and get everyone on Teams and Planner.



dont actually do this, everyone will just hate you more

I feel like a monster for saying this but I really like teams. however I've never used slack.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

LawfulWaffle posted:

Hello, I just found this thread. Is this where I silently scream about users forgetting their password to all our systems every Monday, or sometimes just hours after using them to log in? Or when they send a ticket that says "Printer is down" with no further information or hints to the printer's location, and when I suss out which one the user was referring to it works fine?

I'm a Network Technician with an English degree and I work with 700 idiots. :tipshat:

Welcome home, buddy

porktree
Mar 23, 2002

You just fucked with the wrong Mexican.
At great expense we just upgraded our phone system to Avaya (500 handsets). It's been pretty smooth and working for 2 weeks now. However, and go the directory, you get a nice southern voice asking 'the first few digits of the last name' - then, to top it off it lists the phone numbers of the matching names...

1 4567
2 4899
3 4532

And asks you to pick the number of the number you wish to call...

stevewm
May 10, 2005

porktree posted:

At great expense we just upgraded our phone system to Avaya (500 handsets). It's been pretty smooth and working for 2 weeks now. However, and go the directory, you get a nice southern voice asking 'the first few digits of the last name' - then, to top it off it lists the phone numbers of the matching names...

1 4567
2 4899
3 4532

And asks you to pick the number of the number you wish to call...

Interestingly this is exactly what our Grandstream UCM/Asterisk system does. The dial by name directory will list the extension number, (or spell out the username, if present) until the user logs into the voicemail system and records their "Name Prompt". Then it will play that recording instead of listing the phone number.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





silicone thrills posted:

I feel like a monster for saying this but I really like teams. however I've never used slack.

I also like Teams.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Teams is getting better every day, and I certainly has a better mobile app than SfB, but it still has a way to go before I'd be comfortable telling my users that they need to start using it.

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003
We're implementing Teams pretty quick. Gotta be better than Skype for Business, right?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Antioch posted:

We're implementing Teams pretty quick. Gotta be better than Skype for Business, right?

It is ten thousand percent better than SfB.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


LawfulWaffle posted:

Hello, I just found this thread. Is this where I silently scream about users forgetting their password to all our systems every Monday, or sometimes just hours after using them to log in? Or when they send a ticket that says "Printer is down" with no further information or hints to the printer's location, and when I suss out which one the user was referring to it works fine?

I'm a Network Technician with an English degree and I work with 700 idiots. :tipshat:

Yes, you have found your place here.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE


Let me know if that works for you, also I hope I did not break your internet with my suggestion and that is why you have not replied.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

ConfusedUs posted:

It is ten thousand percent better than SfB.

But it is still awful.

Panthrax
Jul 12, 2001
I'm gonna hit you until candy comes out.
Speaking of Slack, gently caress Slack. It's impossible to gracefully split Slack workspaces. Due to some mergers and acquisitions, we've had some org changes, and so we want our company and our sister company on different workspaces. As an admin you can take an export of your data, but only users and public channels. DMs and private channels are completely left out of the default export package. You can do a compliance export which grabs everything, but that requires the Pro version, which is double the price per user as the Standard version. Oh, and if you do upgrade to get the compliance export, you can only export going forward, there's no historical. Searching around for other options, there are various php scripts and applications that will download DMs and private channels. Except you can't import it into Slack, because the importer will just ignore DMs and private channels. You can't just take your backup and use it for searching for historical information because it's all in JSON format. I've found one PHP script that works to convert it to HTML, but it fails to convert DMs and private groups because they're too many directories deep (and I can't get one of my devs to help fix it). Besides, even if it did work, it'll cost $19/user for the app that does the downloading, then getting it installed on each user machine, getting PHP copied on, getting the script in the right place, and running it and hope it works. Then you still have the problem that it spits out a shitload of HTML files, so you can't just easily search via Explorer for a keyword.

Oh yeah, and I want to change a bunch of emails due to domain changes. Have to do that per user, manually. When you're importing users from the other workspace, you can either have users created and invited immediately (still fighting with it so don't want to do this now), or created and disabled. You have to enable each user, manually. Oh yeah, and whenever you're in the user section, every change you make bounces you back up to the top of the list.

This thing has been an absolute nightmare to implement, and I think we're going to just end up switching to the new Slack and we're going to end up losing 2+ years of history. We can probably do the backup procedure with the C-levels and other high touch users, but I'm not doing that manually for 400 people.

So basically, gently caress Slack for making mergers and acquisitions (which, BTW, aren't a rare occurrence) a goddamn pain in my rear end.

See also: Office 365 tenant merges and splits.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Panthrax posted:

Speaking of Slack, gently caress Slack. It's impossible to gracefully split Slack workspaces. Due to some mergers and acquisitions, we've had some org changes, and so we want our company and our sister company on different workspaces. As an admin you can take an export of your data, but only users and public channels. DMs and private channels are completely left out of the default export package. You can do a compliance export which grabs everything, but that requires the Pro version, which is double the price per user as the Standard version. Oh, and if you do upgrade to get the compliance export, you can only export going forward, there's no historical. Searching around for other options, there are various php scripts and applications that will download DMs and private channels. Except you can't import it into Slack, because the importer will just ignore DMs and private channels. You can't just take your backup and use it for searching for historical information because it's all in JSON format. I've found one PHP script that works to convert it to HTML, but it fails to convert DMs and private groups because they're too many directories deep (and I can't get one of my devs to help fix it). Besides, even if it did work, it'll cost $19/user for the app that does the downloading, then getting it installed on each user machine, getting PHP copied on, getting the script in the right place, and running it and hope it works. Then you still have the problem that it spits out a shitload of HTML files, so you can't just easily search via Explorer for a keyword.

Oh yeah, and I want to change a bunch of emails due to domain changes. Have to do that per user, manually. When you're importing users from the other workspace, you can either have users created and invited immediately (still fighting with it so don't want to do this now), or created and disabled. You have to enable each user, manually. Oh yeah, and whenever you're in the user section, every change you make bounces you back up to the top of the list.

This thing has been an absolute nightmare to implement, and I think we're going to just end up switching to the new Slack and we're going to end up losing 2+ years of history. We can probably do the backup procedure with the C-levels and other high touch users, but I'm not doing that manually for 400 people.

So basically, gently caress Slack for making mergers and acquisitions (which, BTW, aren't a rare occurrence) a goddamn pain in my rear end.

See also: Office 365 tenant merges and splits.
FYI: If you're going to use the free version of a product then you don't actually get to be upset when the non-free version has the featureset you want.

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

anthonypants posted:

FYI: If you're going to use the free version of a product then you don't actually get to be upset when the non-free version has the featureset you want.

This is a feature discrepancy between Standard ($8/mo) and Plus ($15/mo) hth

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
It turns out my predecessor's notes in his documentation share he gave me in his handover consists of basically nothing. Motherfucker.

Also the number he gave me any internet problems was for a BT account that was disabled 7 years ago.

gently caress this guy.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Slack is poo poo, hth.

Might as well use IRC :v:

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


It was a super idea by whomever did it to send all emails for one of our SaaS production admin accounts (including password resets) to a team-public slack channel.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jaded Burnout posted:

It was a super idea by whomever did it to send all emails for one of our SaaS production admin accounts (including password resets) to a team-public slack channel.

Network shared PDF of all supplier logins and direct lines to call for maybe 100 suppliers. Also a line item on sales system that produces any given departments credit card credentials to send to suppliers. Also plain text stored credit card information of customers without 30 day accounts that are required to pay on ordering of equipment (ususally $10K minimum per order)

If I was a nasty person with the ability to figure out how to safely exploit this I might, but I get enough side income selling off our 'dead' equipment with a written agreement from the boss.

fist4jesus
Nov 24, 2002
A year ago my team were tasked with supporting product x.
But only certain people were trusted with full/write access.

Which slowed down work.
Gradually more people and then everyone got access.
Not I. (Plenty of other work to do. I just do other stuff)

I brought it up - No response.
My team lead asked me to do xyz at night, as I work after hours. Sorry mate no access.
Tells me it'll get fixed. Nothing.
It comes up a few more times. Promises. Nothing.
He does a training session on settings and features I cant see. I bring it up. Nothing.

This week it comes up again. Even though Ive sent screenshots in response to emails on the subject it takes me actually forcing him
to watch me login while I point " LOOK, NO SAVE BUTTON. Look, NO TABS" dude tells me his manager said he fixed it. Clearly not.

Over the last 10 days. I've been told its fixed three times. Issues two new sets of logins.
New logins wont auth. I just reply with screenshots each time. (And I had a collegue try them also)

How hard is it to loving try it yourself? Its a webinterface for fucks sake.

Panthrax
Jul 12, 2001
I'm gonna hit you until candy comes out.

SeaborneClink posted:

This is a feature discrepancy between Standard ($8/mo) and Plus ($15/mo) hth

It's not even a feature discrepancy. We pay something like $28k/year for slack and I'm pretty sure the plus version, at $50k+ won't do what I need, which is import private channels and dms. They do have a SCIM API to bulk change emails though. Don't know if you can bulk enable accounts though. I doubt the bosses are keen on spending an extra 25k/year to save me from some carpal tunnel though.

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

Panthrax posted:

It's not even a feature discrepancy. We pay something like $28k/year for slack and I'm pretty sure the plus version, at $50k+ won't do what I need, which is import private channels and dms. They do have a SCIM API to bulk change emails though. Don't know if you can bulk enable accounts though. I doubt the bosses are keen on spending an extra 25k/year to save me from some carpal tunnel though.

Hold on, at $28k/year isn't it cheaper to just host your own IRC server?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Volguus posted:

Hold on, at $28k/year isn't it cheaper to just host your own IRC server?

But then it won't be slack, and all the cool kids are using slack.

No one in the IT world wants to be caught not using the trendiest software.

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Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

xzzy posted:

But then it won't be slack, and all the cool kids are using slack.

No one in the IT world wants to be caught not using the trendiest software.

True that. At my work (we're a very small start-up) I just installed RocketChat because one of the owners wanted to. For all 5 of us slack wouldn't be a big deal anyway, but rocketchat promised video conferencing. It turns out that they use a 3rd party service for that. Which works ... mostly.
Is unbelievable how difficult it is to find some good video conferencing software on linux. One that would support screensharing would be even better. Compared to windows or macs, Linux really sucks at this. We had to use more than once Skype for android, since the skype-for-linux is still in its infancy.

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