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Nessus posted:Sounds like a ridiculously self-indulgent level of word-count to me. The ideal character background should be one phoneme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGcsH5miL44 I mostly posted that to counteract the great evil of Goatman typing one-handed and editing by banging his head against the antique artisanal all-natural home-grown vintage keyboard that he assumes resembles Edgar Rice Burroughs' typewriter. Yes, Edgar Rice Burroughs, I assume Goatman would accidentally mistake the author of Tarzan for the author of Naked Lunch, trying to write the latter when the Great White Savior and Noble Savage themes of the former are way more up Goatman's alley.
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Spoilering for those who needed to skip the earlier spoilered section. The best case scenario is Brucato fantasizes about his underage creation and has been down too long in the hippie sea to realize that the things he is writing about and has been adjacent to are not normal and not okay I don't have a lot of faith in this- some of the implications may be unintended, but not all of them. The worst case scenario involves dialing the FBI hotline.
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I used to enjoy writing elaborate character backgrounds, but never expected any of it to actually come into play. Five thousand words though? I might have hit that on one of my more self-indulgent jobs. Might.
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Kavak posted:Spoilering for those who needed to skip the earlier spoilered section. I've been doing my best to leave most commentary about what I think of his inclinations and history out of the review itself for reasons of it really not being my place to speculate on a topic like this. I can say, though, that the consensus of every abuse survivor I've shown it to has been a universal reaction of bone-deep revulsion and comments/observations that practically turned my hair white.
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Hostile V posted:Found a video about your character. Also my new phoneme is !.
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I was a happier person before I read that, gently caress you Brucatto.
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I was a little sleepy this morning. Not anymore. Also the full color art of Brucato’s OC has some weird action-figure torso going on.
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The obvious question is: how come a creep like Brucato isn't employed by the white house as of yet? He doesn't claim to be Christian.
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Daeren posted:"Beneath the music lessons and encouragement they give her though, there's a nasty edge." ( Daeren posted:and her music has magic she cant control that can make people act on what they most fear or desire, and the initial conflict is noted to be her dad and drinking buddies making her feel unsafe at home  The implications...
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count 2). "A few of Dad's buddies flirt with Meghan," (SIXTEEN YEAR OLD), "and while none have gone too far with that (yet...)," (gently caress you,
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gradenko_2000 posted:Hot take: character backgrounds should fit into a tweet This cuts both ways. If you can't fit your core concept into a tweet, that's too much. If you can't even fill half a tweet, your concept needs filling out (and elaborate character build titles for crunchy systems don't count)
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My first WoD character had a pretty long involved backstory, but I was joining up with an established group that had all their own adventures alraedy, and I'm also pretty sure I didn't share it with the entire group. I also had the core concept before I started working on that. And I've had a 4e character who's entire conceit is "I really want to use that anime as hell crescent moon blade Paladin e7 power" e: I guess I should add that Yes, the spoilered bit of the text is rapey as hell. And is at the very least creating a very romantically sexualized account of the relationship. Kurieg fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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See, I had some personal GM fears recently about getting overattached to a NPC. You know the drill, you make a character, like the concept so you flesh them out a little more.. and before you know it you treat the NPC as if it was your character and not something destined to get their brains blown out in the finale. And now I know, however badly I fare as a GM, at least I've never used my underage, likely abuse victim, foot fetish waifu (that's surrounded by horny 40-year-olds) in a game while screaming at my players: "LOOK AT HER, YOU FUCKERS! ISN'T SHE, LIKE, TOTALLY COOL?!? LOOK AT HER!!" So at least there's this low I'm not reaching, which is nice.
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Kurieg posted:My first WoD character had a pretty long involved backstory, but I was joining up with an established group that had all their own adventures alraedy, and I'm also pretty sure I didn't share it with the entire group. This. Some people build a concept from an elevator pitch, some people do the RPG equivalent of method acting and have to generate a full backstory to reach at where the character is at the beginning of play. I don't think there is anything wrong with coming up with something that elaborate so long as it can ALSO be collapsed into bullet points. When I see people come to a table with a longer backstory, it's usually because there are story hooks in there that they want to see come up during play. The issue is that if they are the only person with this expectation and someone's going to be disappointed in how spotlight time is allocated. Generically I don't want to discourage a player telling me what he wants out of the game, but it might mean a little more time during character creation to tease out something equivalent from the other players - or at worst telling the one player that these parts of his background are probably not going to be addressed.
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I try to always make character generation a group activity for that reason, so everyone has a chance of being on the same page and knowing the expectations.
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One of the biggest mistakes of gaming in the 90s, generally, was an emphasis on lots of backstory coupled with really deadly game mechanics, with the designers openly boasting about both. Yeah, write a 20-page biography of your character that will get torn to shreds in their first combat. AFAIK, all the famous NPCs from old-school D&D had their backstories retconned in after they survived Gary's game long enough to be memorable. Mors Rattus posted:I’ve been trying to find Senzar for a long time. It is very expensive.
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Kavak posted:Is this the new or old character limit? More importantly, are you Chinese?
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Halloween Jack posted:One of the biggest mistakes of gaming in the 90s, generally, was an emphasis on lots of backstory coupled with really deadly game mechanics, with the designers openly boasting about both. Yeah, write a 20-page biography of your character that will get torn to shreds in their first combat. Don't forget the actual mechanical side of building them will take at least an hour.
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I neglected to mention that I then lost said character because my Storyteller chose to interpret "Had the fear of breaking the veil literally beaten into him" as something I should grow out of in my second adventure, so he put me into a situation where my two options were "Break the veil" or "die", and I took the In Character option. Which was just as well because that was the plot arc that turned into Frank Miller's Sin City But Literally Everyone's Fera and my character would have been decidedly out of place.
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Night10194 posted:Don't forget the actual mechanical side of building them will take at least an hour.
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Halloween Jack posted:What's more, if you're talking about a game like Shadowrun, there's a lot of fiddly little bits you can spend hours manipulating but your power level comes down to which character class you picked. Always go for Troll with a Bow.
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Honestly, more game designers need to understand the character creation:character life expectancy ratio - it's disheartening to put a lot of time and effort into making a character and have them get killed in one session, especially if it's due to circumstances beyond your control.
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I was inspired by the Altered Carbon series to finally read Eclipse Phase. I just got to “spend 1000 points 1-10 at a time” and my jaw literally dropped. I’m hoping there are a fuckton of pregens later in the book.
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Eclipse phase is a cool setting and it rules that it went out for free but it’s not a great system. I think there’s a good angrypost by ProfessorCirno about how the mechanics messed up Sleeving.
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Hostile V posted:Yeah disregarding my own biases and my F&F of the whole series, I have never heard anyone refer to BNW positively or generally at all out in the online tabletop scene. Like I was honestly a little surprised that some folks here remembered the line enough to have any sort of opinion on any of it because the whole series felt just abandoned and forgotten every time I remembered it existed (before running the series and realizing "yeah okay this is fine if everyone forgets it"). I think y'all will be fine and won't get much anger if it all. I honestly think it was more caught up in the tide of how well-liked Deadlands was at the time than anything on its own. I remember being really excited by it for like a week, and then deciding I'd rather play something without really limited 'power packages.'
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Robindaybird posted:Honestly, more game designers need to understand the character creation:character life expectancy ratio - it's disheartening to put a lot of time and effort into making a character and have them get killed in one session, especially if it's due to circumstances beyond your control. Welp, I know what my next Sgt Nerd column's going to be about.
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rumble in the bunghole posted:Eclipse phase is a cool setting and it rules that it went out for free but it’s not a great system. I think there’s a good angrypost by ProfessorCirno about how the mechanics messed up Sleeving. And if you gently caress up some of them you'll get penalties and you have to deal with more ongoing poo poo to get them to go away.
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Second edition of Eclipse Phase fixed a lot of first editions flaws, fewer skills, easier character gen, bodies that don't require you to remake your sheet to use. It is in a free play test right now.
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Zereth posted:Doesn't the process of switching bodies take like at least eight individual rolls to resolve? All of them. 
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And then there's like fifty pages of equipment but literally only one setup ever worth using.
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Nessus posted:Sounds like a ridiculously self-indulgent level of word-count to me. The ideal character background should be one phoneme. I allow myself six syllables myself. e.g. YS ATUN VRAMA PRESH
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PurpleXVI posted:And then there's like fifty pages of equipment but literally only one setup ever worth using. That's one of the issues I have when I'm thinking about Cold War guns in Space With Elves: A rifle is a rifle is a rifle, but if you don't stat them out, you lose the Cold War gear aspect. The other alternative is to go crazy with stats, prices, availability and so on...
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I unconditionally support Eclipse Phase because it made a forum post saying that MRAs weren't allowed to play Eclipse Phase. Now, to one day play Eclipse Phase.
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Eclipse Phase is my favorite game I'll never get to play because none of my friends have any interest in running it and their only interest in playing it is just the surface level "action movie but with robots and talking apes" parts.
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JcDent posted:That's one of the issues I have when I'm thinking about Cold War guns in Space With Elves: Offload the work onto your players. Come up with enough gearporn for your character's equipment and you can use it to justify a Stunt bonus as and when appropriate.
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JcDent posted:That's one of the issues I have when I'm thinking about Cold War guns in Space With Elves: If it’s spacefights with elves it’s really not worth coming up with piles of gear for no benefit. Only add that granularity if everything else has it.
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theironjef posted:I've had a tough time with this one. Worried that it's a generally well-liked RPG and my immediate distaste for the tone and the lack of content is gonna anger the ardent fans. Nah, Brave New World never got much traction due to its relatively limited character generation compared to its contemporaries (i.e. Champions and its descendants). There's a reason the game line never finished; it's basically the forgotten game as far as Pinnacle games go. It has fans, but far as I've seen when most people talk about liking it, it feels like they enjoyed the narrative or setting more than the actual game itself.
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Idle thought, is Federation and Empire a candidate for this thread or would that strictly be Prime Directive
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The Chad Jihad posted:Idle thought, is Federation and Empire a candidate for this thread or would that strictly be Prime Directive hell yeah I'd be down to read about this
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