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Expect My Mom posted:Radiant Historia owns
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i dunno, i thought the two recruits who work under stocke were tremendously moronic maybe that's just because their in-battle skills sucked compared to your alternatives though
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Feb 15, 2018 21:05
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I will always speak highly of Radiata Stories. It's a dumb anime fantasy game where the protagonist is a huge dork that everyone dumps on but he wrecks everyone because he's the protagonist of a video game. PLOT DEVICE: If the apocalypse dragon awakens then the world will be doomed! Jack Russell: He's dead. I just killed him. There's also a dedicated kick button and every NPC has a reaction.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:05
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Update: my MHW got here safe and sound. The post office just forgot to scan it as delivered and because I have to pick stuff up from the office, I sort of need that confirmation to know it got here
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Feb 15, 2018 21:07
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Jay Rust posted:Discussion prompt: what’s the worst game you kinda like? Definitely Folklore
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Feb 15, 2018 21:07
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Jay Rust posted:Discussion prompt: what’s the worst game you kinda like? probably captain rainbow tbh game's soured me on a lot the further i've played because it only becomes more apparent how limited it is and how much of it is padded out because of that, but i still wanna see it through to the end cause the writing is so bizarre and sometimes results in something amazing The Colonel fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Feb 15, 2018 |
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Feb 15, 2018 21:10
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Jay Rust posted:Discussion prompt: what’s the worst game you kinda like? Love me some SNES Anamaniacs
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Feb 15, 2018 21:13
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Endorph posted:but authority is bad to me because of the way it marginalizes oppressed people, and the game also marginalizes oppressed people or ignores them, and by being a triple A game with a ton of money poured into it persona 5 is itself a symbol of 'authority' in the way that it muscles out of a lot of smaller titles and dominates discussion, which might be an unfair point but i dont think a million dollar game made by a billion dollar company is ever going to be 'full anarchy now' Persona 5 dislikes authority for a different reason than you do which is a valid complaint but I think, outside of the ending, it communicates and stands by its intended message well, even if that's not the message you would like it to have
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Feb 15, 2018 21:15
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The Colonel posted:probably captain rainbow tbh This 2 star Amazon Japan review is the most "customers felt helpful" and basically hits every point you mentioned. quote:I like chill games. I started having fun at the beginning as I felt I could do whatever I like at my own pace without being bound by time. But as the game progresses, there are less things to do. Eventually it took only 14 hours to clear everything. But the mini games are the real thrill and I thought I could play them even after finishing but you can't (;_;). Very sad. Not a Children posted:Love me some SNES Anamaniacs Masochist detected.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:20
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In Training posted:I played 15 minutes of the radiant historia demo, skipping all the dialogue so I could get a sense for the battle system. I see a 9x9 battle network style set up and then they show off a delay/push system for enemy combos and I turned it off and bought it Radiant Historia's battle system is extremely good. Unfortunately some late-game bosses are really big and you can't move them around, so the battle system doesn't get to shine on them, but for 95% of the game's fights it's a total blast. It also has a lot of turn order manipulation, which is a feature of almost all of my favorite turn-based systems. Sakurazuka posted:Man the SoM remake is so cheap looking, I guess they had to take the Vita version into account but that still no excuse for making it look like an upscaled PS1 game I'm not usually a fan of Polygon's reviews but this part from their review of the Secret of Mana remake is so hilariously scathing I can't not love it: Jeremy Parish posted:Remakes should ideally strip away a game’s outdated or broken elements while enshrining its strengths. Secret of Mana’s remake instead emphasizes the parts of the original that didn’t quite work while leeching all joy from the parts that did. What few things it changes, it alters for the worse. This is a remarkable remake, but not in a good way: the kind of update that leaves you scratching your head wondering how they could hew so closely to the original and yet manage to get everything about it so catastrophically wrong.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:29
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There are too many games I like that can be considered terrible games. I can't think off the top of my head what the worst one that I like would be. Septerra Core has a lot of heart, it's not good and it is, in fact, bad, but I like it in spite of that.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:30
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Sadly I like lots of games that are kind of bad, most of Gust's recent output for instance.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:32
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Harrow posted:I'm not usually a fan of Polygon's reviews but this part from their review of the Secret of Mana remake is so hilariously scathing I can't not love it: Thungs like that and Dynasty Warriors 9 have gotten me wondering now if maybe every good video game really is just a fluke.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:32
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Harrow posted:Radiant Historia's battle system is extremely good. Unfortunately some late-game bosses are really big and you can't move them around, so the battle system doesn't get to shine on them, but for 95% of the game's fights it's a total blast. It also has a lot of turn order manipulation, which is a feature of almost all of my favorite turn-based systems. i wish i could say i'm surprised it turned out crummy but it really seemed like they were phoning it in for this thing the second it was announced and the $40 price tag even for a quality remake of a 25 year old game was pretty disgusting from the get go
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Feb 15, 2018 21:34
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Looper posted:Wait no I'm changing my answer to Jet Force Gemini The questions wasn't: "What good games are good?"
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Feb 15, 2018 21:37
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chumbler posted:Thungs like that and Dynasty Warriors 9 have gotten me wondering now if maybe every good video game really is just a fluke. Some series are so consistently good that I can believe, for now at least, that it's possible to make a good video game on purpose. Perhaps my optimism is unwarranted. Cowcaster posted:i wish i could say i'm surprised it turned out crummy but it really seemed like they were phoning it in for this thing the second it was announced and the $40 price tag even for a quality remake of a 25 year old game was pretty disgusting from the get go Honestly the visuals turned me off almost immediately, and the fact that it's basically "what if Secret of Mana, but clunkier?" means I might as well just go play the original again. Here's hoping they never decide to release Seiken Densetsu 3 in the west because they'd probably gently caress it up as hard as possible. At this point I'm pretty sure the only teams at Square-Enix who have any idea how to make video games anymore are the FFXIV team and the team that made Bravely Default (who are now making Octopath Traveler). Maybe KH3 will prove me wrong.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:39
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cheetah7071 posted:Persona 5 dislikes authority for a different reason than you do which is a valid complaint but I think, outside of the ending, it communicates and stands by its intended message well, even if that's not the message you would like it to have Standing by its message except at the resolution is an odd defense tbh.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:50
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I don't know, I'm playing Secret of Mana right now, on my 99th try to actually finish it as a witch doctor curse ensures I stop progressing at some point since the game first came out, but Secret of Mana is already a kind of bad and janky playing game. Nobody knows how much this thing changed when the SNES CD fell through but it's just huge maps of monster filled areas where one NPC hints at a thing over there and you go do that thing and it's done. Like right now I'm chasing down Santa Claus but first I walked onto a random screen to fight a reskin of an old boss, I enter a tropical town in the middle of a snow field where a pirate told me to watch a cauldron, I waited 60 seconds for the game to prompt me to open the cauldron where the fire spirit immediately joins my party, fade to black, the town is cold and abandoned. Any additional plot to Secret of Mana could only be a good thing, and any level of coherence to this messy combat system could only be a good thing. If Square somehow hosed both things up I am impressed because base SoM is pretty and really not much else. chumbler posted:Thungs like that and Dynasty Warriors 9 have gotten me wondering now if maybe every good video game really is just a fluke. *takes a bong rip* Actually man we're all flukes. One sperm out of thousands made it to your mother's egg to create the unique you that was forged and shaped by an environment that is also a fluke. To think that a good game is the combination of the right people at the right time in the right place and you'll understand the whole universe is one giant beautiful mistake al-azad fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Feb 15, 2018 |
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Feb 15, 2018 21:50
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chumbler posted:Thungs like that and Dynasty Warriors 9 have gotten me wondering now if maybe every good video game really is just a fluke.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:50
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Motto posted:Standing by its message except at the resolution is an odd defense tbh. I mean I'm defending it from "it doesn't stand by its message ever" so
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Feb 15, 2018 21:52
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I think the bounty that was 2017 in video gaming is probably going to cast a shadow over the next few years and make the mediocre-to-bad games look even worse
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Feb 15, 2018 21:54
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cheetah7071 posted:I mean I'm defending it from "it doesn't stand by its message ever" so
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Feb 15, 2018 21:54
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I also like the graphical style of SoM remake, hi-res Dreamcast is an aesthetic I want in more games, but I just read there's no canon shot animation and that's inexcusable.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:55
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcMBpVXzWM the japanese beast wars opening is amazing
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Feb 15, 2018 21:55
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al-azad posted:This 2 star Amazon Japan review is the most "customers felt helpful" and basically hits every point you mentioned. yeah the minigames in captain rainbow are actually really fun and i almost think it'd be better if the game got more mileage out of them than the constant tedious overworld stuff. they'd probably get more annoying the more you do them but there's no way they'd be worse than going through the same identical shooting star night for the 11th time honestly i have to wonder if all the padding is just because of a mandated length the game had to reach, because the same sort of stuff crops up in tingle's balloon trip of love, except instead of walking around it's an endless loop of doing the dungeon minigame to get rupees to spend on gifts for hours. and the desert chapter The Colonel fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Feb 15, 2018 |
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Feb 15, 2018 21:59
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al-azad posted:I don't know, I'm playing Secret of Mana right now, on my 99th try to actually finish it as a witch doctor curse ensures I stop progressing at some point since the game first came out, but Secret of Mana is already a kind of bad and janky playing game. Nobody knows how much this thing changed when the SNES CD fell through but it's just huge maps of monster filled areas where one NPC hints at a thing over there and you go do that thing and it's done. Like right now I'm chasing down Santa Claus but first I walked onto a random screen to fight a reskin of an old boss, I enter a tropical town in the middle of a snow field where a pirate told me to watch a cauldron, I waited 60 seconds for the game to prompt me to open the cauldron where the fire spirit immediately joins my party, fade to black, the town is cold and abandoned. i mean i ran through the original for the first time since 1994 when the remake was announced and yeah the game has aged like a dog turd on a hot road, but i don’t follow the logic how that’s supposed to be a point in the remake’s favor. if you slap a coat of paint on that dried out dog turd i guess technically it’s better?
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Feb 15, 2018 22:10
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Endorph posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcMBpVXzWM
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Feb 15, 2018 22:12
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al-azad posted:Any additional plot to Secret of Mana could only be a good thing, and any level of coherence to this messy combat system could only be a good thing. If Square somehow hosed both things up I am impressed because base SoM is pretty and really not much else. Going by that Polygon review: yes, they did gently caress those things up. Especially the combat.
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Feb 15, 2018 22:16
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although i will admit his comments about rubbing up against enemies and stuff seem weird as hell
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Feb 15, 2018 22:18
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Cowcaster posted:i mean i ran through the original for the first time since 1994 when the remake was announced and yeah the game has aged like a dog turd on a hot road, but i don’t follow the logic how that’s supposed to be a point in the remake’s favor. if you slap a coat of paint on that dried out dog turd i guess technically it’s better? What I was arguing is that any improvements to the very Spartan script or barely there combat would be a good thing but somehow Square hosed it up so I'll just complete this SNES version and be on my way.
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Feb 15, 2018 22:19
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Cowcaster posted:although i will admit his comments about rubbing up against enemies and stuff seem weird as hell If anything you should be staying away from enemies so they can't immediately attack you when they get a turn, assuming they're not stuck in a hit cycle.
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Feb 15, 2018 22:19
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Whoah poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc6msd1HAOQ Studio Killers are back
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Feb 15, 2018 22:20
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al-azad posted:What I was arguing is that any improvements to the very Spartan script or barely there combat would be a good thing but somehow Square hosed it up so I'll just complete this SNES version and be on my way. They added hit indicators so you can tell wether you actually hit something and two shortcut buttons, that's it for combat changes. It's a game that improved nothing that needed improving and removed everything that made the original SoM likable.
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Feb 15, 2018 22:22
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you’d think how the secret of mana translation was infamous for the massive hatchet job it had to be because square wanted to use a big font or whatever would mean them going back and adding crummy voice over to the whole mess would’ve been a no brainer to work on a new translation but from what it sounds like that would’ve taken too much time and effort for a lovely overpriced nostalgia cash grab project so why bother
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Feb 15, 2018 22:22
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I mean it's not like it's the most transcendent script in the first place, the games were always just chill little fairy tales for the most part.
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Feb 15, 2018 22:24
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Cowcaster posted:you’d think how the secret of mana translation was infamous for the massive hatchet job it had to be because square wanted to use a big font or whatever would mean them going back and adding crummy voice over to the whole mess would’ve been a no brainer to work on a new translation but from what it sounds like that would’ve taken too much time and effort for a lovely overpriced nostalgia cash grab project so why bother It's a new translation that still uses some old lines like SE tends to do with these things, I've really no idea what you're talking about
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Feb 15, 2018 22:26
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Phantasium posted:I mean it's not like it's the most transcendent script in the first place, the games were always just chill little fairy tales for the most part. ffa isn't so much a chill fairy tale as a story about people being inexplicably miserable except for the science doctor who turns a chocobo into a robot
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Feb 15, 2018 22:27
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Sakurazuka posted:It's a new translation that still uses some old lines like SE tends to do with these things, I've really no idea what you're talking about ah based on that article it sounded like they didn’t bother doing anything to the script
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Feb 15, 2018 22:29
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Phantasium posted:I mean it's not like it's the most transcendent script in the first place, the games were always just chill little fairy tales for the most part. apparently i was thinking of final fantasy 3/6 http://www.playeronepodcast.com/forum/index.php?/topic/145-transcript-of-ted-woolsey-interview/
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Feb 15, 2018 22:30
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The Colonel posted:ffa isn't so much a chill fairy tale as a story about people being inexplicably miserable except for the science doctor who turns a chocobo into a robot The earliest form of Chocolina.
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