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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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| Veloster Turbo |
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| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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I'm in Austin, TX. I'll take another look. I very well may have misread the prices
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Feb 14, 2018 06:38
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kaujot posted:I'm in Austin, TX. I'll take another look. I very well may have misread the prices https://www.maundvw.com/new-invento...-anchor-model-5 Couple cheap new '17s there.
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Feb 14, 2018 06:41
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Thank you! I'm not sure now what I was looking at, because I was seeing much higher prices than that... Definitely going to add it to the list now!
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Feb 14, 2018 06:45
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sneakyfrog posted:tune it pal. Well, while I still have a year of warranty left if I do any tuning for now it’s just going to be Mountune MP-215, not sure if that modifies this facet of the car or not. Further research required.
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Feb 14, 2018 12:18
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kaujot posted:I'm in Austin, TX. I'll take another look. I very well may have misread the prices I got a call 17 SE from Charles Maund for under 27k out the door. The guy I bought it from is gone but hit up Ancira in SA via email and ask them what deal they can do. Hewlett and Charles Maund will play ball better if you give them an offer to beat from a local dealer.
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Feb 14, 2018 13:08
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Here4DaGangBang posted:Well, while I still have a year of warranty left if I do any tuning for now it’s just going to be Mountune MP-215, not sure if that modifies this facet of the car or not. Further research required. just get an accessport and an etune. or if you are feeling especially spicy a custom tune, but you'll notice a difference with just that and a drop in filter and thats easy enough to undo in case of a dealer trip.
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Feb 14, 2018 13:12
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sneakyfrog posted:just get an accessport and an etune. or if you are feeling especially spicy a custom tune, but you'll notice a difference with just that and a drop in filter and thats easy enough to undo in case of a dealer trip. Yeah, there's a world of difference between the stock tune and a Mountune custom tune. Worlds.
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Feb 14, 2018 13:15
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thetechnoloser posted:Yeah, there's a world of difference between the stock tune and a Mountune custom tune. Worlds. http://www.stratifiedauto.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=117_123 im rather fond of this shop as well.
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Feb 14, 2018 13:27
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Here4DaGangBang posted:Well, while I still have a year of warranty left if I do any tuning for now it’s just going to be Mountune MP-215, not sure if that modifies this facet of the car or not. Further research required. Seconding the AP, it’s amazing. The OTS tunes are (understandably) still somewhat conservative, but like night and day. As the other poster said, once your warranty is out you can also get a custom tune will liven it up even more The AP even improved my gas mileage when I was driving sane. Having the ability to monitor like 100 different real time system goings-on is nice too
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Feb 14, 2018 14:06
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Got me an OBDeleven for the GTI, opted for Pro though I don't really need it, I can't even recall what I wanted it for after watching that shopdap video about the differences. I'm not exactly thrilled that it doesn't include any credits even with pro, but it does have a free credit every day if you launch their app, so that's sort of like a free to play game. I'd be more disappointed about 0 credits but I only need like 20 credits for mirror dip and keyfob window control, mybe soundaktor delete for another 10.
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Feb 14, 2018 22:13
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Oddhair posted:Got me an OBDeleven for the GTI, opted for Pro though I don't really need it, I can't even recall what I wanted it for after watching that shopdap video about the differences. I'm not exactly thrilled that it doesn't include any credits even with pro, but it does have a free credit every day if you launch their app, so that's sort of like a free to play game. I'd be more disappointed about 0 credits but I only need like 20 credits for mirror dip and keyfob window control, mybe soundaktor delete for another 10. jesus christ. microtransactions on a tuning device. gently caress this stupid planet.
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Feb 14, 2018 22:53
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You can earn free credits daily for popping up stupid ads that you can X out of. Or you can not be lazy and just long code your settings. Also, Master List of things you can change.
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Feb 14, 2018 23:32
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Still unsure about tuning my FoST- thing is still under drivetrain warranty and it would be just my luck for something to happen to the engine and be denied because of the tune. Think I might need some stickier summer tires and stiffer engine mounts as the thing wheelhops or spins at base tune from a start anyways.
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Feb 14, 2018 23:46
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Etrips posted:You can earn free credits daily for popping up stupid ads that you can X out of. Or you can not be lazy and just long code your settings. that is handy.... in forscan you just have to poke around and do research and a brief prayer not to brick my car plz baby jesus
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Feb 14, 2018 23:58
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sneakyfrog posted:that is handy.... in forscan you just have to poke around and do research and a brief prayer not to brick my car plz baby jesus I just got forscan up and running with my mustang and I want to change how many times my blinker flashes when I change lanes but I'm afraid I'll brick it. What a weird future.
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Feb 15, 2018 00:08
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sneakyfrog posted:just get an accessport and an etune. or if you are feeling especially spicy a custom tune, but you'll notice a difference with just that and a drop in filter and thats easy enough to undo in case of a dealer trip. If I’m not mistaken there is a counter of how many engine starts since last ECU reset or something like that which they can use to tell if an ECU has been reflashed recently though?
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Feb 15, 2018 00:43
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opengl128 posted:I just got forscan up and running with my mustang and I want to change how many times my blinker flashes when I change lanes but I'm afraid I'll brick it. What a weird future. back that poo poo up yo. Here4DaGangBang posted:If I’m not mistaken there is a counter of how many engine starts since last ECU reset or something like that which they can use to tell if an ECU has been reflashed recently though? i void warranties, so honestly i dont care, burden of proof is still on them to prove my modifications damaged the car. but i suppose you could plan your dealer visits in advance, and hell if you are extra paranoid buy a nice optima battery, swap it in and clean up if necessary and say your battery fried and you swapped it out. then return it and put your old battery in. i dont care that much but there are options
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Feb 15, 2018 00:48
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sneakyfrog posted:jesus christ. yeah, time to just buy a vagcom instead. gently caress this and gently caress using an app for this stuff.
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Feb 15, 2018 00:52
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opengl128 posted:I just got forscan up and running with my mustang and I want to change how many times my blinker flashes when I change lanes but I'm afraid I'll brick it. What a weird future. I must do this with my FiST. 5 flashes in my gf's Alfa blew my mind, it's the correct number of flashes IMO.
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Feb 15, 2018 01:27
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BraveUlysses posted:yeah, time to just buy a vagcom instead. gently caress this and gently caress using an app for this stuff. What is so difficult about OBDeleven? I did everything I wanted to on a lovely rear end $20 Andriod phone that I had left over from my Perk farming days. So that is $80 (or $100 if you don't have an Android) vs $200 to do the same thing.
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Feb 15, 2018 02:32
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Been thinking about picking it up (OBDeleven) but don't know if I'd need pro or not to do the little stuff I'd like to do (disable soundaktor, tinker with some other poo poo maybe). Is it worth it over the base version? The credit thing does sound quite annoying but as I understand it they're not required unless you want to easy button things instead of manually coding stuff?
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Feb 15, 2018 15:09
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People that run the Cobb AP on their FoST, do you leave it hooked up all the time? If so, any worries about it being targeted for theft?
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Feb 15, 2018 16:35
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sneakyfrog posted:back that poo poo up yo. If they discover a tune was present during any sort of engine failure, you're most likely not going to have a valid warranty claim. Its happened to two friends of mine with their Subarus (ring lands), and lots of people I've seen on the F150 forums with ecoboost engines. From what I've seen, its usually not the dealers themselves that look much into it unless they are specifically requested to by the manufacturer. In the case of one of the Subarus, they actually sent a manufacturer representative to investigate and deny the warranty. This is even AFTER resetting the vehicle to stock, a battery reset isn't going to do a drat thing. The ECU (at least on Fords) keeps a flash count and a tech can go in and see if fuel/spark tables were messed with recently. You're not going to win a fight with a manufacturer if they deny your claim.
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Feb 15, 2018 17:07
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Larrymer posted:Been thinking about picking it up (OBDeleven) but don't know if I'd need pro or not to do the little stuff I'd like to do (disable soundaktor, tinker with some other poo poo maybe). Is it worth it over the base version? Check out the video Deutsche Auto Parts put on youtube explaining the features of the pro and why you might want it. Like I mentioned I can't recall but it's <$60 for non-pro and $80 for Pro. I just watched it right quick and it seems the Pro allows for more live info and long coding. Basic should be able to do the things you're describing, but you'll need to buy or "earn" some credits.
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Feb 15, 2018 18:55
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Auron posted:If they discover a tune was present during any sort of engine failure, you're most likely not going to have a valid warranty claim. Its happened to two friends of mine with their Subarus (ring lands), and lots of people I've seen on the F150 forums with ecoboost engines. From what I've seen, its usually not the dealers themselves that look much into it unless they are specifically requested to by the manufacturer. In the case of one of the Subarus, they actually sent a manufacturer representative to investigate and deny the warranty. This is even AFTER resetting the vehicle to stock, a battery reset isn't going to do a drat thing. The ECU (at least on Fords) keeps a flash count and a tech can go in and see if fuel/spark tables were messed with recently. You're not going to win a fight with a manufacturer if they deny your claim. i wasnt submitting that would work in the event of an actual engine failure warranty claim, I was suggesting it if you happened to be taking the vehicle to the dealership just for service. You run 30 pounds of boost into it and blow your engine lol yeah they aint paying for poo poo. on the other hand if you just take it in for a standard service and are worried about the dealership messing with you would be the circumstance i was suggesting it for.
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Feb 15, 2018 18:57
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Flash a secondary ecu and swap the physical part?
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Feb 15, 2018 20:00
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sneakyfrog posted:i wasnt submitting that would work in the event of an actual engine failure warranty claim, I was suggesting it if you happened to be taking the vehicle to the dealership just for service. You run 30 pounds of boost into it and blow your engine lol yeah they aint paying for poo poo. on the other hand if you just take it in for a standard service and are worried about the dealership messing with you would be the circumstance i was suggesting it for. If you have a failure that's not consistent with a tune, that depends largely on the dealer and sometimes your relationship with them. Here's some of the actual Ford guidelines: https://ford.oemdtc.com/GSB/G0000128.pdf It's a safe bet that most other OEMs have similar policies, as these are consistent with the requirements of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Auron posted:The ECU (at least on Fords) keeps a flash count and a tech can go in and see if fuel/spark tables were messed with recently. You're not going to win a fight with a manufacturer if they deny your claim. Christobevii3 posted:Flash a secondary ecu and swap the physical part?
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Feb 15, 2018 20:35
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I would love to somehow do a study of a ton of modded/chipped cars that go to the dealership just to see how often owners wind up paying the whole bill vs. repairs under warranty. I'm curious as to how many mechanics are like the Warranty Police and how many don't bother.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:38
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The Ferret King posted:People that run the Cobb AP on their FoST, do you leave it hooked up all the time? If so, any worries about it being targeted for theft? Do not under any circumstances leave it plugged in all the time. 1, unless Ford changed the electrical wiring, the OBD port supplies power even when the car is off, so your battery will drain 2, no good reason to keep it plugged in, since you change tunes rarely 3, your ST, being an ST will be a target for theft for people who know cars and target "nicer" vehicles 4, if your AP gets stolen, you’ll need to buy a new one and go through Cobb to get a stock image for your car; said stock image will let your car run, but it won’t be an exact match for your original ECU image; Ford would have grounds to deny your warranty for anything potentially related to the ECU flash
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Feb 16, 2018 02:52
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I'm going to my first autox test and tune on Saturday. Can anyone with experience tell me what to expect?
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Feb 16, 2018 03:17
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a mysterious cloak posted:I would love to somehow do a study of a ton of modded/chipped cars that go to the dealership just to see how often owners wind up paying the whole bill vs. repairs under warranty. I'm curious as to how many mechanics are like the Warranty Police and how many don't bother. I really wish I could find the detailed post of a tech that works at VW and how they handle their flagging / warranty claims. IIRC, if they have to submit for warranty work (ie blown turbo) they get your car hooked up on VWs server scanner (ODIS) which flags your car in their system if it detects it has been modified through whatever algorithm it uses. The dealership can choose to do the repair but VW ultimately ends up deciding if they are going to pay for it or not. So if they decide that your tune was the result of the blown turbo, then they go no money and the dealership loses out and the tech that does the work literally gets paid nothing for the work hes done. Then again I could be remembering it all wrong. Wish I could find the post over on golfmk7 again.
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Feb 16, 2018 03:22
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tacopie posted:I'm going to my first autox test and tune on Saturday. Can anyone with experience tell me what to expect? You get a poo poo ton of runs to test your car. Bring stuff to adjust your alignment if you want to play with it?
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Feb 16, 2018 05:22
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Monkey Fracas posted:Still unsure about tuning my FoST- thing is still under drivetrain warranty and it would be just my luck for something to happen to the engine and be denied because of the tune. Buy the ford tune. I put the whole pack on my car. might not get as many HP but it definitely makes a huge difference, and its warranty safe.
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Feb 16, 2018 07:39
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bobfather posted:Do not under any circumstances leave it plugged in all the time. I have an obdlink that I leave plugged in all the time. AFAIK, it turns off when the car is off. I've left the car for 3 weeks before without a dead battery when I started it up.
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Feb 16, 2018 14:29
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I think it depends on what type of OBD device it is. I know that OBDelevel will kill your battery if you leave it in forever.
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Feb 16, 2018 14:46
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the Accessport has a setting (off by default natch) that will turn the unit off if it detects the car is off just as an FYI
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Feb 16, 2018 14:51
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bobfather posted:Do not under any circumstances leave it plugged in all the time. Unless the FoST AP is that much different, one of the last few updates included a feature to automatically turn off the AP when the car was turned off (on the FiST AP). The theft issue is a worry if you live or park somewhere that could be an issue Also on the pros of leaving it plugged in, I went through 2 cables because hooking it up and unhooking it caused the plastic pieces you squeeze to disconnect it to break off. I could still use it, but sometimes I had to use something to push in the sides to unplug it . It’s all up to how much and how you use your AP , and also the where you leave it unattended.
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Feb 16, 2018 15:11
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Unsane posted:Buy the ford tune. I put the whole pack on my car. might not get as many HP but it definitely makes a huge difference, and its warranty safe. https://performanceparts.ford.com/warranty/include/pdf/Select_Parts_Warranty_Statement_2017v2.pdf Monkey Fracas noting that it's still under drivetrain warranty implies that it might already be out of that range. If there was a way to unlock the AccessPort it uses after the warranty runs out and switch over to whatever random tunes you want it'd still be a decent idea later in to the warranty period, but as-is where it's twice the price for a half-rear end warranty I can't recommend anyone buy those unless their car is pretty much brand new. The value you're getting from the significant extra cost dwindles to zero as your mileage approaches 36,000. As far as OBD-2 and power goes, my bluetooth dongle definitely does not shut off. I had to buy a trickle charger because I work from home so if I didn't go anywhere for 3-4 days in the winter I might not be able to start my car between that and the radar detector (plugged in to the non-switched front power port). wolrah fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Feb 16, 2018 |
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Feb 16, 2018 17:02
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wolrah posted:Keep in mind that the warranty on the FRPP/Mountune tunes is not equivalent to the OEM powertrain warranty. It only covers to 3y/36k, not 6y/60k. Yeah, already over that... have to find something else on the car to screw around with for the time being I guess.
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sneakyfrog posted:i wasnt submitting that would work in the event of an actual engine failure warranty claim, I was suggesting it if you happened to be taking the vehicle to the dealership just for service. You run 30 pounds of boost into it and blow your engine lol yeah they aint paying for poo poo. on the other hand if you just take it in for a standard service and are worried about the dealership messing with you would be the circumstance i was suggesting it for. Gotcha, yeah you're right they're not going to just go in and void your warranty because you got a tire rotation and have a tuner, but I believe they can flag your vehicle or leave notes (if the tech is a dick). I always reflash mine to stock mainly so they don't update the PCM and I get locked out of my tuner. wolrah posted:
I was mistaken, you are correct on this and I believe it applies to all modern Fords.
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