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I know this is different depending on the mod, but I strongly prefer people not ninja'ing their posts. TIA.
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My other issue is that if MMT is scum then where is the push to lynch someone else? I mean I know a lot can change in the last couple hours, but leaving a scum buddy as the vote leader heading into the final hours is dangerous.
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Feb 15, 2018 22:25
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TMMadman posted:It feels opportunistic. I must have not read that. ##unvote
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Feb 15, 2018 22:28
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This is a good vote: ##vote Lupus
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Feb 15, 2018 22:28
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TMMadman posted:My other issue is that if MMT is scum then where is the push to lynch someone else? people are pushing for moat, and also this is a really bad reason not to vote for someone who is scummy. Max posted:I know this is different depending on the mod, but I strongly prefer people not ninja'ing their posts. TIA. maybe you shouldn't have made me a shinobi then, maximus.
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Feb 15, 2018 22:34
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LupusAter posted:I think MMT is the one who acted the scummiest between the people who actually posted. But since that amounts to only kinda scummy, probably at least one lurker is scum. On the other hand, better to act based on at least some evidence, even if it is kinda flimsy. I don't think this is scummy, but I disagree. People who are posting are going to keep posting and keep giving you things to judge them by. People who aren't giving you reads are going to not.
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Feb 15, 2018 22:41
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merk posted:I'm reading this as "I better take a stand, but it's one that I don't want to be held to in future days." Is that an accurate interpretation of your MMT read? this feels ungenerous and badgery
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Feb 15, 2018 22:42
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Pinterest Mom posted:this feels ungenerous and badgery It's a question.
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Feb 15, 2018 22:46
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EccoRaven posted:people are pushing for moat, and also this is a really bad reason not to vote for someone who is scummy. I am sad you beat me to a literal ninja joke. 
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Feb 15, 2018 22:59
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Sorry folks, I slept in this morning because I'm going out later tonight.Moatillata posted:Your recollection is completely skewed imo Xad's recollection seemed right on the nose to me. Moat: when I said "I've literally never been more serious about anything in my life", did you think I was being serious?
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Feb 15, 2018 23:04
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EccoRaven posted:I'm fine with my vote on mmt. I think mmt is a vote that can happen, so I'm not particularly motivated to change it. I think her reaction to Moat's posts were a little ridiculous and I've gotten a weird vibe from her early-day posts. Can you define "objectively weird" as it relates to the post in question? ##vote Ecco - at least I can believe that Moat was questioning me in good faith. Ecco just hopped on the case without really adding anything to it / going into detail why she thinks it. EccoRaven posted:people are pushing for moat, and also this is a really bad reason not to vote for someone who is scummy. Strong disagree. I think the relative ease by which people jumped on the vote on me is plenty suspicious, and I'm always wary when I see someone getting pushed with hardly any pushback.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:12
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Dick Bastardly posted:Heading to work. Will make my best effort to read through the day, but will probably participate more this afternoon (est timezone). DB is another person I'd vote for - he's posted enough to give the impression of being here but hasn't really made any alignment calls other than me-too'ing the case on me.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:17
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LupusAter posted:I wrote my train of thought at the moment, and since I don't like presenting things I aren't sure about as gospel truth, I made my doubts clear. I get scummy vibes from MMT, but that's mostly because I feel that town would be more cautious in accusing D1 on the basis of reacting to a joke. I also think you're latching to the first thing that could sound like a case and hoping it'll start a train, but that might be the OMGUS talking. Why would town be cautious in accusing anyone of being scum d1?  Like yeah, I'll be the first to admit that my vote on Moat was more to gauge reactions than out of a certainty that he's scum - but what's scummy about that?
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Feb 15, 2018 23:24
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Murmur Twin posted:Sorry folks, I slept in this morning because I'm going out later tonight. Yup, I thought it was bold and I liked it, hence the posterity post with the screenshot. I thought it would be bad rear end if you were even partially right. Nothing in that post suggested joke to me. As I said before the last thing I expected was the point by point case you threw at me
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Feb 15, 2018 23:27
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To be fair, MMT, you're a very serious person.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:30
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Murmur Twin posted:Why would town be cautious in accusing anyone of being scum d1? It's mostly because it reads like accusing someone for the sake of accusing someone, and using a weak motive as a cover. I'm not saying I think town would always be cautious in accusing someone d1, I'm saying that I think town would be cautious of accusing someone d1 in that exact situation.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:30
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Tobbs what do you make of this and who are your lynch preferences?
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Feb 15, 2018 23:31
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LupusAter posted:It's mostly because it reads like accusing someone for the sake of accusing someone, and using a weak motive as a cover. I'm not saying I think town would always be cautious in accusing someone d1, I'm saying that I think town would be cautious of accusing someone d1 in that exact situation. Eh, I disagree with this. I know I just throw poo poo out day one to see what sticks, it moves the game forward.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:33
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LET'S VOTE ECCO ##vote Ecco Case: merk makes a gut read.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:34
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Actual case: 1. Sounds manufactured; 2. Did gotcha scum hunting on me; 3. Voted MMT with a case that I don't really think he believes in which starts from a joke vote; 4. Kept the MMT vote with justification that it's a lynch "that can happen."
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Feb 15, 2018 23:35
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Merk what do you make of chores posting?
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Feb 15, 2018 23:36
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LupusAter posted:It's mostly because it reads like accusing someone for the sake of accusing someone, and using a weak motive as a cover. I'm not saying I think town would always be cautious in accusing someone d1, I'm saying that I think town would be cautious of accusing someone d1 in that exact situation. Hey, can you answer my question?
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Feb 15, 2018 23:36
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Moatillata posted:Merk what do you make of chores posting? Zero content. Borderline trolling the game. Would lynch but know it won't happen d1. I've died on this sword numerous times historically trying to get people who refuse to play mafia to actually play mafia.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:38
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merk posted:Hey, can you answer my question? I explained my reasoning. Sorry I didn't acknowledge your leading question while doing it.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:41
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Moatillata posted:Tobbs what do you make of this and who are your lynch preferences? Still like RF for literally zero participation. PMOM at least showed up and is sharing opinions. Feeling a tad better about MMT with her firing back, but I'd expect town MMT to come out heavier on casing than self-defense. Merk seems dodgy, especially with his intention to toss out gambits and see what happens. It feels fake to me, ~~manufacturing content~~ so to speak. Chores is calling me 100% scum which reads like town chores to me. Scum chores is a dodgy fucker. Yeah, I'm gonna go with ##vote merk Going after newer players is also a scum tactic, and Lupus reads honest to me, even though there's definitely that new player awkwardness.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:42
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Moatillata posted:Yup, I thought it was bold and I liked it, hence the posterity post with the screenshot. I thought it would be bad rear end if you were even partially right. Hahaha I'm laughing because it didn't actually dawn on me that you might take me seriously when I said that. CCKeane posted:To be fair, MMT, you're a very serious person. This is literally the most factually accurate description of me ever.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:48
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Murmur Twin posted:I think the relative ease by which people jumped on the vote on me is plenty suspicious, and I'm always wary when I see someone getting pushed with hardly any pushback. Building on this, Asphyxious and DB are both bothering me for not only not really making any cases or reads, but also not really being called out as lurkers either (as opposed to, say, myself / RF / PMom / chores). I'm always suspicious when people seem to be posting just enough to go unnoticed.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:58
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I’m not trying to be unnoticed, but I’m still combing through this shitshow for reads. At this stage I’d vote for ghost dog or moat over MMT. Feeling good about Keane this game. Ditto Merk.
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Feb 16, 2018 00:04
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Murmur Twin posted:Building on this, Asphyxious and DB are both bothering me for not only not really making any cases or reads, but also not really being called out as lurkers either (as opposed to, say, myself / RF / PMom / chores). I'm always suspicious when people seem to be posting just enough to go unnoticed. I could see Gaspy. Mostly shitposts and a vote on a new player.
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Feb 16, 2018 00:04
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I could see Gaspy. Mostly shitposts and a vote on a new player. Naw I’m town, soz.
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Feb 16, 2018 00:05
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Asphyxious posted:Naw I’m town, soz. At least mentioning you summons you to the thread. I wonder if we'll see RF before deadline.
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Feb 16, 2018 00:07
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:At least mentioning you summons you to the thread. I just woke up. I take mafia very seriously and I check these threads before I even kiss my beautiful wife.
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Feb 16, 2018 00:12
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Asphyxious posted:I just woke up. I take mafia very seriously and I check these threads before I even kiss my beautiful wife. I can never remember who's Australian.
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Feb 16, 2018 00:16
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I don’t buy merk’s case on Ecco and don’t buy that he believes it ##vote merk
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Feb 16, 2018 00:17
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LupusAter posted:I explained my reasoning. Sorry I didn't acknowledge your leading question while doing it. Is my interpretation of your vote wrong?
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Feb 16, 2018 00:20
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merk posted:LET'S VOTE ECCO I'm with ya, friendo. Sorry Ecco. ##vote: Ecco
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Feb 16, 2018 00:26
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I'm about to be driving for most of the rest of the game day but I'll be checking the game via phone.
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Feb 16, 2018 00:42
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Likewise I'm going out for dinner later, but should be back before deadline
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Feb 16, 2018 00:44
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a bad last minute push from scum. mmt is scum, merk is her buddy, enjoy the game everyone. I'm gone for the night.
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