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The Straight Pipes did a pre-production review of the Veloster N, looks pretty spicy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBRdWNKxj_Q
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actually those blue seatbelts are sweet
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It looks a lot like a Juke.
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The front reminds me of an RS with a more lexus-esq grille.
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Saw a new DB11 today. This is the third one I've seen but the first one I was close to. It's quite sexy. 
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cool startup feel posted:Saw a new DB11 today. This is the third one I've seen but the first one I was close to. It's quite sexy. gently caress that looks good.
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https://jalopnik.com/this-might-be-the-new-toyota-supra-in-racing-concept-fo-1823075843 I would love for the new Toyota Supra to rock my socks off but that front end styling is absolutely hideous. Way too busy. There's too much going on in it. They need to clean it up some & give it a little bit of a more iconic profile. Heck, they could have re-sold the original '93 Supra & I probably would have bought it, as that thing looked excellent. 
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A3th3r posted:I would love for the new Toyota Supra to rock my socks off but that front end styling is absolutely hideous. Way too busy. There's too much going on in it. They need to clean it up some & give it a little bit of a more iconic profile. Heck, they could have re-sold the original '93 Supra & I probably would have bought it, as that thing looked excellent. You could replace the words "Toyota Supra" with literally any car model and the statement is still true.
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nuclear hot take: mk4 supras are boring looking
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BraveUlysses posted:nuclear hot take: MK4 Supras had about the same power as the equivilant 4th gen F-body (NA/TT vs V6/LS1) , same number of gears, same basic design, T-tops, etc. They are basically the same car and there is no reason why one should be worth more than the other. 
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BraveUlysses posted:nuclear hot take:
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Throatwarbler posted:MK4 Supras had about the same power as the equivilant 4th gen F-body (NA/TT vs V6/LS1) , same number of gears, same basic design, T-tops, etc. They are basically the same car and there is no reason why one should be worth more than the other. One says 'Toyota' on it though?
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A3th3r posted:That front end styling is absolutely hideous. Way too busy. There's too much going on in it. They need to clean it up some & give it a little bit of a more iconic profile. I don't think it's a forgone conclusion that the road version will look like that below the headlights.
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Throatwarbler posted:MK4 Supras had about the same power as the equivilant 4th gen F-body (NA/TT vs V6/LS1) , same number of gears, same basic design, T-tops, etc. They are basically the same car and there is no reason why one should be worth more than the other. My boss had a '97 turbo Supra and I've still got my '98 Corvette. Comparing the two his definitely had a nicer interior and never modifying it he was able to sell it for more than he paid, but I'll take the extra 30hp and that V8 sound over that massive turbo whine. 
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davebo posted:My boss had a '97 turbo Supra and I've still got my '98 Corvette. Comparing the two his definitely had a nicer interior and never modifying it he was able to sell it for more than he paid, but I'll take the extra 30hp and that V8 sound over that massive turbo whine. pretty sure the corvette is faster and better handling around a track too
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But you can mod the Supra to 1,000 hp without sacrificing the stock 0-60 time.
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BraveUlysses posted:pretty sure the corvette is faster and better handling around a track too And isn’t a $40k 25 year old Toyota.
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BraveUlysses posted:pretty sure the corvette is faster and better handling around a track too
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eyebeem posted:But you can mod the Supra to 1,000 hp without sacrificing the stock 0-60 time.  
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JazzmasterCurious posted:Faster? Maybe. But I think not. Better handling? Hahahahahahahaha I know a stock C5 has a faster 0-60, 0-100 and quarter mile, but you got me interested to find any similar track times from that era. Unfortunately googling corvette vs supra just results in thousands of results from Supra forums of people bragging how a 700+hp modded Supra could TOTALLY rape a stock Corvette. Like, it wouldn't even be funny, bro! Edit: Found a Motor Trend article from 1997 where they had a short road course, SupraTT 41.3 sec, C5 41.7 sec, F355 39.5 sec davebo fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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I played around with a few new Camaros at the dealership today and they have impossibly bad ergonomics. Maybe I'm used to my truck but it's astonishing how little usable space there is in a car that big. I guess it at least looks cool from the outside and is fast around a track if you manage to see out of it.
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You also can't see it out of them, like at all. They are completely undrivable because of that.
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The Camaro and the ATS its based on are basically pure distilled GM: Absolutely brilliant, world-beating engineering on the few aspects the team had carte blanche on developing, wrapped up in a borderline unusable piece of poo poo overall package.
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Wheeee posted:The Camaro and the ATS its based on are basically pure distilled GM: Absolutely brilliant, world-beating engineering on the few aspects the team had carte blanche on developing, wrapped up in a borderline unusable piece of poo poo overall package. I'm still traumatized about it. I considered picking up a used ZL1 in a few years to scratch my urge for insane power, but will likely just get back into a used AMG or something.
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https://nyti.ms/2ByHsS6quote:More Luxury Buyers Ditch the Imports and Pick Up a Truck I think people also realized that owning a rapidly depreciating and insanely overcomplicated German car is just not that appealing
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cool startup feel posted:https://nyti.ms/2ByHsS6 Yeah, at least if you get a rapidly depreciating and insanely overcomplicated Ford you can see over traffic.
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Because gas is never going to go up in price ever again, and gently caress the environment anyway.
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KozmoNaut posted:Because gas is never going to go up in price ever again, and gently caress the environment anyway. If it's luxury buyers making the move, it's not like those cars are all that fuel efficient either. Going from the A6 3.0T Quattro to the F150 EB 4WD is 8.7% difference in fuel economy. Edit: if you're looking at it from a pure cost perspective, the Audi takes premium fuel as well...
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So a few pages back people were excited at the prospect of the Ranger Raptor coming to these shores, and I get the appeal. But what about an Edge Raptor? I was out for a walk yesterday and saw a white Edge with the now-familiar Raptor grille and 3 led's across the top, just under the front lip of the hood. However, it went by so fast that I couldn't get a photo. Has anybody else seen or heard of one?
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:If it's luxury buyers making the move, it's not like those cars are all that fuel efficient either. Going from the A6 3.0T Quattro to the F150 EB 4WD is 8.7% difference in fuel economy. Mid-high teens for the F150 vs 20-25 combined for the A6? That's a lot more than 8.7%, these buyers will be upset if gas prices rise close to $4 again.
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Choco Zulu posted:So a few pages back people were excited at the prospect of the Ranger Raptor coming to these shores, and I get the appeal. But what about an Edge Raptor? I was out for a walk yesterday and saw a white Edge with the now-familiar Raptor grille and 3 led's across the top, just under the front lip of the hood. However, it went by so fast that I couldn't get a photo. Has anybody else seen or heard of one? Looks like its aftermarket https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-2017-...=p2047675.l2557 
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Choco Zulu posted:So a few pages back people were excited at the prospect of the Ranger Raptor coming to these shores, and I get the appeal. But what about an Edge Raptor? I was out for a walk yesterday and saw a white Edge with the now-familiar Raptor grille and 3 led's across the top, just under the front lip of the hood. However, it went by so fast that I couldn't get a photo. Has anybody else seen or heard of one? Someone in the neighborhood where I work has a white edge with a blacked-out grille and rims and these translucent green/blue headlight covers and it looks baller as gently caress.
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Twerk from Home posted:Yeah, at least if you get a rapidly depreciating and insanely overcomplicated Ford you can see over traffic.   And if you have a small business, you can write off the entire purchase price of your luxury truck in its first year. sanchez posted:Mid-high teens for the F150 vs 20-25 combined for the A6? That's a lot more than 8.7%, these buyers will be upset if gas prices rise close to $4 again. If you're spending $60K on a vehicle, you're likely not too sensitive to fuel costs. I've made my peace with luxury trucks. They're the de facto American luxury vehicles. For many people, the luxury experience is close enough (and the size of the truck makes up for the interior not being as nice as a true luxury car), they're cheaper to own over the German marques, and they offer perceived utility that a sedan just doesn't have.
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It's not just perceived. If I buy a 5 year old F-150 Lariat, I'm getting a 5 year old heavily built utility vehicle that happens to have a pretty fancy interior in it. If I buy a 5 year old German luxury car, I'm getting an unreliable shitbox car with outdated technology that's going to cost me a pile of money to keep on the road. Just lol at the idea that trucks depreciate at anywhere near the rate of luxury cats
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Wheeee posted:
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I legitimately wonder what holds its value better... a 4 year old Purebred rag doll or e450.
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eyebeem posted:I legitimately wonder what holds its value better... a 4 year old Purebred rag doll or e450. Rag doll pisses less fluid
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eyebeem posted:I legitimately wonder what holds its value better... a 4 year old Purebred rag doll or e450. Mercedes owners value anything pure-bred more than a four year old car.
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