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craig588
Nov 19, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
What was wrong with the other one, I think it was called Bitpay? I never made a Coinbase account because they wanted way too much information. Bitpay was like "got an email? Good enough"

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ohgodwhat
Aug 6, 2005

Hmm yeah why does this money transmitter ask so many questions? Shouldn't I be able to launder money however I see fit?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

ohgodwhat posted:

Hmm yeah why does this money transmitter ask so many questions? Shouldn't I be able to launder money however I see fit?
Well isn't that the point of bitcoins? Anyway you don't actually need to provide any real verifiable info to coinbase to recieve money from NH and and pay for Gyft cards.

Ezekial
Jan 10, 2014
Any recent news on proof of capacity stuff? I have a 24 tb raid 6 that I use a third of. Would like to do something with atleast half. Is it worth it to consider at this point or did I miss the profitability boat?

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Don't participate in something that will immediately be used to house and distribute child pornography

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Don't participate in something that will immediately be used to house and distribute child pornography

FBI agents writing this on the chalkboard 100 times as punishment.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Ezekial posted:

Any recent news on proof of capacity stuff? I have a 24 tb raid 6 that I use a third of. Would like to do something with atleast half. Is it worth it to consider at this point or did I miss the profitability boat?

Maybe you could store pictures of friends and loved ones on it

Also have you heard of MP3?

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

QuarkJets posted:

Maybe you could store pictures of friends and loved ones on it

Also have you heard of MP3?

What’s that? MP3? A new altcoin? Where do you mine it? Is it on Binance?BUY BUY BUY MP3 going to the MOOOOOOON

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)
you have to install kazaa but trust me its worth it

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

here have a few mp3s on me: MP3.zip.exe

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

1gnoirents posted:

you have to install kazaa but trust me its worth it

Apparently Soulseeker still works.

Twinty Zuleps
May 10, 2008

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
apparently some people itt too good for downloading a 7gb discography off of pirate bay every time they hear one song they like

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

You can now mine crypto to get video game loot boxes, truly the ultimate marriage of lovely terrible things

http://www.dbltap.com/posts/5983454-new-app-allows-pcs-to-mine-for-loot-in-overwatch-and-league-of-legends

Naffer
Oct 26, 2004

Not a good chemist

Syrinxx posted:

You can now mine crypto to get video game loot boxes, truly the ultimate marriage of lovely terrible things

http://www.dbltap.com/posts/5983454-new-app-allows-pcs-to-mine-for-loot-in-overwatch-and-league-of-legends

Isn't this just cutting out the actual game playing? Your GPU does a bunch of work using electricity and you get loot boxes occasionally.
I'd be interested to see how the kWh/loot box compares between playing the game and cryptomining.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I'm waiting for something I can spend money on but get nothing in return. Why even do loot boxes?

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007

Naffer posted:

Isn't this just cutting out the actual game playing? Your GPU does a bunch of work using electricity and you get loot boxes occasionally.
I'd be interested to see how the kWh/loot box compares between playing the game and cryptomining.

Hearthstone packs are like $1.50/pack at the high end iirc so if you’re mining $3/day you could reasonably get one per day which is more than you’d get from playing casually. Not that it makes sense but if that’s the rate they’re rewarding then it beats playing the game. Also you could play on your phone while you mine on your gaming PC which would obliterate the kw/h for that particular game.

ItBurns fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Feb 21, 2018

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Yeah wouldn't want to have to actually play the game

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007

QuarkJets posted:

Yeah wouldn't want to have to actually play the game

Buying packs is 90% of the game though.

Theris
Oct 9, 2007

ItBurns posted:

Hearthstone packs are like $1.50/pack at the high end iirc so if you’re mining $3/day you could reasonably get one per day which is more than you’d get from playing casually. Not that it makes sense but if that’s the rate they’re rewarding then it beats playing the game.

That won't be the rate they're rewarding them because otherwise they won't make money. Maybe if they have a deal with blizzard and get them for less, but the relationship with blizzard is unclear in the article.

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007

Theris posted:

That won't be the rate they're rewarding them because otherwise they won't make money. Maybe if they have a deal with blizzard and get them for less, but the relationship with blizzard is unclear in the article.

$3 - 1.50 = ?

Theris
Oct 9, 2007

ItBurns posted:

$3 - 1.50 = ?

:doh:

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

ItBurns posted:

$3 - 1.50 = ?

Applying numbers to crypto is a fool’s errand since over an infinite time period, crypto will increase infinitely!

Checkmate, nocoiners. :smuggo:

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Don't participate in something that will immediately be used to house and distribute child pornography

I see this parroted every time it comes up; by that logic no one in the world should use Tor either because governments and corporations should totally get to monitor all traffic at all times; no legitimate journalistic/privacy use at all right? If I miss out on a hilarious Wikileaks diplomatic cable dump because y'all are FUD-ing I'm gonna be pissed.

It doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to think there's some evil poo poo being hosted on unlisted Dropbox links or whatever, guess we can't use that either.

CFox
Nov 9, 2005
You're missing the point. Think about the legal ramifications of being found with child porn on your personal hard drive. Think the police/court system is going to care that it's technically not yours? Your defense is the tech version of "I'm just holding this for a friend".

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
not only is it not mine, they paid me to hold it!

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

CFox posted:

You're missing the point. Think about the legal ramifications of being found with child porn on your personal hard drive. Think the police/court system is going to care that it's technically not yours? Your defense is the tech version of "I'm just holding this for a friend".

I haven't read up on it; can any of it even be accessed/decrypted or filenames viewed if you're the intermediary? They don't arrest the library if some weirdo is using computers illegally, they don't put you in jail if you leave your Wifi router without a password and someone else uses it illegally either.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Zero VGS posted:

I see this parroted every time it comes up; by that logic no one in the world should use Tor either

Yes? No one should use Tor, at least anyone in the US. Especially since if you're just trying to circumvent geoIP blocks there's specific utilities and services for that.

Even if you don't get arrested for what other people do with your internet connection, your ISP may disconnect you if you're found to be using it irresponsibly. In the US it's not a human right and heavily monopolized. If you've ever gotten DMCA warning letters for using a public :filez: tracker without a VPN, imagine what's going on if people are basically bouncing into your network to access highly illegal poo poo for them?

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Craptacular! posted:

Yes? No one should use Tor, at least anyone in the US. Especially since if you're just trying to circumvent geoIP blocks there's specific utilities and services for that.

Even if you don't get arrested for what other people do with your internet connection, your ISP may disconnect you if you're found to be using it irresponsibly. In the US it's not a human right and heavily monopolized. If you've ever gotten DMCA warning letters for using a public :filez: tracker without a VPN, imagine what's going on if people are basically bouncing into your network to access highly illegal poo poo for them?

This isn't how Tor works at all

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

Craptacular! posted:

Yes? No one should use Tor, at least anyone in the US. Especially since if you're just trying to circumvent geoIP blocks there's specific utilities and services for that.

Even if you don't get arrested for what other people do with your internet connection, your ISP may disconnect you if you're found to be using it irresponsibly. In the US it's not a human right and heavily monopolized. If you've ever gotten DMCA warning letters for using a public :filez: tracker without a VPN, imagine what's going on if people are basically bouncing into your network to access highly illegal poo poo for them?

what exactly do you think tor does?

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

Craptacular! posted:

Yes? No one should use Tor, at least anyone in the US. Especially since if you're just trying to circumvent geoIP blocks there's specific utilities and services for that.

Even if you don't get arrested for what other people do with your internet connection, your ISP may disconnect you if you're found to be using it irresponsibly. In the US it's not a human right and heavily monopolized. If you've ever gotten DMCA warning letters for using a public :filez: tracker without a VPN, imagine what's going on if people are basically bouncing into your network to access highly illegal poo poo for them?

"it's not a human right and heavily monopolized", just because that's the case doesn't mean it's right. I'm the kinda person who roots for Snowden / Manning underdogs against Big Brother kind of stunts, and the only way that can work is if people are using Tor for mundane, innocent poo poo (which, when someone analyzed their exit node, it turned out to almost entirely be).

For instance, I knew someone in the US who used Tor + Bitcoin to buy prescription drugs that he actually needed and couldn't afford normally, because the US is hilariously hosed up in that regard. It helped him out immensely. That was all sorts of illegal, but for him it turned out to be the right decision. If you can't support that, might as well toss out your bongs while you're moralizing.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

what exactly do you think tor does?

Bounces my traffic around a bunch of different computers, eventually reaching the target server from a PC configured as an exit node?

In 2007, I used to use Tor to watch BBC News by configuring it with a UK based exit node to get around geoIP blocks in an age before everyone and their cousin was trying to watch other countries Netflix.

Zero VGS posted:

"it's not a human right and heavily monopolized", just because that's the case doesn't mean it's right. I'm the kinda person who roots for Snowden / Manning underdogs against Big Brother kind of stunts, and the only way that can work is if people are using Tor for mundane, innocent poo poo (which, when someone analyzed their exit node, it turned out to almost entirely be).

For instance, I knew someone in the US who used Tor + Bitcoin to buy prescription drugs that he actually needed and couldn't afford normally, because the US is hilariously hosed up in that regard. It helped him out immensely. That was all sorts of illegal, but for him it turned out to be the right decision. If you can't support that, might as well toss out your bongs while you're moralizing.

You can do what you want with the internet account you pay for. I can only advise you as to how I use mine. I used to use Tor + Vidalia to watch foreign TV and it's a service I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole anymore. I support software piracy in theory, but I wouldn't hop onto The Pirate Bay and seed everything I can grab to "stick it to the man" just because I "root for underdogs." The practical necessity of my connection and the reality of the framework I live in means my self-interest ("I need a connection to find a job") undermines any support I can provide ("I can't find a job online if I get dozens of DMCA warnings").

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Feb 22, 2018

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Craptacular! posted:

Yes? No one should use Tor, at least anyone in the US. Especially since if you're just trying to circumvent geoIP blocks there's specific utilities and services for that.

Even if you don't get arrested for what other people do with your internet connection, your ISP may disconnect you if you're found to be using it irresponsibly. In the US it's not a human right and heavily monopolized. If you've ever gotten DMCA warning letters for using a public :filez: tracker without a VPN, imagine what's going on if people are basically bouncing into your network to access highly illegal poo poo for them?

Your ISP can tell that you're using TOR if they decide to check. However, there's no big red light that flashes along with a message saying "Fred Jones is using TOR! He might be looking at something he shouldn't!!!"

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Gynovore posted:

Your ISP can tell that you're using TOR if they decide to check. However, there's no big red light that flashes along with a message saying "Fred Jones is using TOR! He might be looking at something he shouldn't!!!"

In that effect it is my own paranoia to simply not get in trouble running a service I don't need, but specifically I was thinking of the risks of running a server configured as an exit node; in which case your connection could be the last leg of the relay, reaching into the dark web at someone else's behest.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

Craptacular! posted:

In that effect it is my own paranoia to simply not get in trouble running a service I don't need, but specifically I was thinking of the risks of running a server configured as an exit node; in which case your connection could be the last leg of the relay, reaching into the dark web at someone else's behest.

Yeah, I think everyone can agree you probably shouldn't run an exit node from your home computer. That's an entirely separate discussion though, and not related to any of the concerns you brought up in your post.

If you think that ISPs are running de-anonymizing attacks against users running tor and/or law enforcement holding them accountable for all the traffic that hops through their machines, well I'd love to see an example of that ever happening. I guess they could ban it entirely, but a simple vpn or ssh tunnel would fix that anyway.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
Yeah, it's your right to be the paranoid/cautious type, but blanket-disparaging Tor and friends just makes it harder for other kinds of paranoid/cautious people to use them, was my point.

Of course running a Tor exit node is objectively risky with no reward at all, so I've got to respect to anyone who does that stuff on principal. Finding a way to monetize encrypted storage so the self-serving Joe will pitch in doesn't seem like the worst idea. If it can take the place of the insane energy waste of Bitcoin, I'd say it's a net gain for humanity. If it gets hacked so all the files are revealed, I'm sure it'll be in the news and at least a jury will be sympathetic when Uncle Sam starts scanning and arresting individuals or whatever your doomsday scenario is.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Zero VGS posted:

they don't put you in jail if you leave your Wifi router without a password and someone else uses it illegally either.

If you manage to prove it wasn't you, yeah. But meanwhile you had to hire a lawyer to defend yourself.

Similarly, if you are running buttcoin storage on your computer and Joe Pedophile happens to store his CP with you, maybe some FBI agents bust down your door and carry away every PC, hard disk, USB drive, and other scrap of writable media in your house.

"B-b-b-but, please Mr FBI Agent," you say, after you get done making GBS threads yourself, "when will I get my computer back?"

"After trial and all possible appeals, so like 5 to 8 years kid," the sneering agent informs you, while handing you a form to fill out entitling you to fair compensation. You later find out that fair compensation is a $400 dell, because it qualifies as 'a computer'.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Craptacular! posted:

In that effect it is my own paranoia to simply not get in trouble running a service I don't need, but specifically I was thinking of the risks of running a server configured as an exit node; in which case your connection could be the last leg of the relay, reaching into the dark web at someone else's behest.
FYI exit nodes do not terminate connections in to the "dark web", they're for terminating back out to the open internet.

"Dark web" sites exist on Tor itself (or similar services). By definition the endpoint is the site, or at least its Tor proxy.


I of course agree that running an exit node is a fairly insane decision. That however has absolutely nothing to do with using Tor.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
FORUM POLICE

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Don't participate in something that will immediately be used to house and distribute child pornography

Proof-of-capacity as it currently exists can't actually store anything, otherwise you couldn't validate the correctness of a proof. "These $LINUX_ISOS have the winning hash every time, you can't disprove it!"

It's theoretically solvable but if they switched to Paxos or something you'd notice the 100% load on your network for weeks.

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)
Oof we're approaching all time mining lows (*******since the boon last year******) and its making me squirm a bit.

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Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

1gnoirents posted:

Oof we're approaching all time mining lows (*******since the boon last year******) and its making me squirm a bit.

I turned off my mining gaming PC but hasn’t it been that way basically since January?

I got solar panels and poo poo but even then I figured the wear and tear on my rig wasn’t worth it

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