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Discovery would have been a good show if they had glued some jelly beans to some plywood painted black.
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Cojawfee posted:Discovery would have been a good show if they had glued some jelly beans to some plywood painted black. Uhhhh Discovery would have been better if it was filmed in 4:3 aspect ratio
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Feb 17, 2018 19:55
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PostNouveau posted:I think they knew that, and that's why there's a big "Hey! Look over here! It's the Enterprise!" at the end. Hey remember when the Federation was nearly destroyed by the Klingons 10 years ago? Huh, no? And for some reason the Enterprise was a few minutes warp from undefended Earth but wasn't doing anything I guess.
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Feb 17, 2018 20:05
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Sovereign looks fine in First Contact and Insurrection but the cg aztecing and textures in Nemesis are atrocious. That design looks far better when it isn’t painted in black and charcoal grey. Yeah, the Sovereign has very few good angles, primarily due to how flat it is overall. (In fairness, even the Galaxy doesn't have the ability to look good from any angle and from some it looks downright hideous, unlike the 1701 Refit.)
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Feb 17, 2018 20:05
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Taear posted:Hey remember when the Federation was nearly destroyed by the Klingons 10 years ago? Huh, no? They had a really weird energy reading they just had to check out. I mean, I don't think it's a bad idea. I'd rather have nerds talking about if they like or don't like the new Enterprise model than talking about how badly I botched the finale.
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Feb 17, 2018 20:09
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Frionnel posted:I'm honestly glad they didn't go further with the 2006 CGI. It's supposed to belong in TOS, not show "a modern vision of a starship" that would have clashed with everything else in the show. It's definitely more appropriate for that show given the instances of the real model appearing on set in some episodes (I think it gets shrunk an trapped in a crystal block at one point?). Would have been nice if they could have reshot the scenes with real models.
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Feb 17, 2018 20:19
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The Sovereign looks cool when you're 9 but as you get older and you learn the difference between "cool" and "kewl" it loses a lot of it's luster
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Feb 17, 2018 20:23
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Tighclops posted:The Sovereign looks cool when you're 9 but as you get older and you learn the difference between "cool" and "kewl" it loses a lot of it's luster Does anyone have pics of it from STO with like TOS material textures? I am looking at it and my only real beef with it is the Aztecing
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Feb 17, 2018 20:24
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Honestly just look at pictures of the filming miniature (one of the last they built for Star Trek) from First Contact, they gave it the same pearlecent-white sheen the 1701 refit model from TMP had and it looked great.
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Feb 17, 2018 20:27
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Tighclops posted:Honestly just look at pictures of the filming miniature (one of the last they built for Star Trek) from First Contact, they gave it the same pearlecent-white sheen the 1701 refit model from TMP had and it looked great. The aztecing looks awful considering it has enough character from panels and stuff not to need basically grey digital camo spots all over it edit: look at the TOS enterprise model in the smithsonian, the shading and grid pattern really do enuf for it
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Feb 17, 2018 20:32
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shovelbum posted:Does anyone have pics of it from STO with like TOS material textures? I am looking at it and my only real beef with it is the Aztecing Only certain ships in STO can use the TOS textures and the Sovereign isn't one of them.
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Feb 17, 2018 20:38
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The Golden Gael posted:Obviously the ship is going to need to fit the newer aesthetic of the DISCO design or it will stick out. Literally the exact opposite of this.
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Feb 17, 2018 21:13
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shovelbum posted:The aztecing looks awful considering it has enough character from panels and stuff not to need basically grey digital camo spots all over it Honestly they went with the look you're going for with the lovely CG model they built for Insurrection and it looked flat and cartoony as hell Like, there's a happy medium between "overbusy gunmetal and raised panel lines everywhere" that seems to be the in thing right now and just looking like a low poly texture model from Beast Wars or something The thing with the TMP style paint job is that each hull panel isn't really a different colour, it just has a different sheen over it so when the light catches it only then do you really see the detail in the reflection which then suggests scale; as the movies progressed and ILM switched to a simpler lighting rig they just flattened all that work and sadly most of the effect was lost. Then years later you have horrible mistakes like the 4 foot Ent-D minature they built for the 3 or 4th season of TNG that had the panel lines physically modeled so they whole thing ends up looking like a chunky duplo sculpture in harsh lighting *shudders*
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Feb 17, 2018 21:15
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:The original Enterprise looked like poo poo in the '60s let alone now. 
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Feb 17, 2018 21:16
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I don't think he meant to say it looks like poo poo, but rather that it should be flushed away AS poo poo
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Feb 18, 2018 00:23
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The Golden Gael posted:I don't think he meant to say it looks like poo poo, but rather that it should be flushed away AS poo poo Much like his posting
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Feb 18, 2018 00:38
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The Golden Gael posted:I don't think he meant to say it looks like poo poo, but rather that it should be flushed away AS poo poo 
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Feb 18, 2018 01:23
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Feb 18, 2018 02:09
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Can I post as the tribble that ended up causing all the stations grain to be eaten? All I would have to do is eat all the food in my home. Including the rancid surströmming can I have yet to open.
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Feb 18, 2018 04:09
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Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since. Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”
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Feb 18, 2018 05:28
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since. ymmv on humor obv The pilot is the worst episode probably but of course introduces the characters The dick jokes are heaviest in the first two or three episodes then it transitions to leaning heavy on the Trek and very light on the jokes. Probably something Seth had to do to sell the series to Fox. It really does get quite good by the end and its looking like season 2 will be even better
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Feb 18, 2018 05:31
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I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want TNG with weed/dick/fart jokes I don't want to understand them, I want a comfortable neutral zone between me and those humourless monsters That said Orville plays it pretty straight the pilot's predictably weak but it pulls up from there, the best jokes are situational and if you don't see where they're going by like, maybe the 4th episode tops then I dunno
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Feb 18, 2018 05:32
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since. I don’t think there is a single dick or fart joke. A dog licks his balls in the background of one scene.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:32
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since. It's not as frequent as you'd think for a Seth McFarlane show, but you probably wouldn't make it through a whole episode if you turned it off in a huff everytime there was a dick joke.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:32
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:I don’t think there is a single dick or fart joke. A dog licks his balls in the background of one scene. And they point it out
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Feb 18, 2018 05:33
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Watch the pilot, it is the worst episode but not terrible. Then watch a few more episodes and watch it get really good really fast.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:42
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McSpanky posted:An undoubtedly terrible EU novel will posit that the Excelsior's transwarp drive was the spore drive. I'm waiting for the novel where the Voyager crew discusses a spore drive or the Equinox gets retconned as a spore drive.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:47
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Watch 3 or 4 episodes at least. The Orville is good.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:51
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since. If you committed to watching the Train'Req called STD, go watch The Orville. Yes, McFarland is in it. Yes, there's humor, but it's character and situation based. And yes, the latter episodes are WAY better than the former.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:58
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Orville to me is a chance to sensibly chuckle at jokes that don't completely undercut the drama of whatever story it was telling. I stopped chuckling entirely by later episodes but I still appreciated it for trying. Then Bortus had me laughing out of nowhere like an idiot and I was completely on board.
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Feb 18, 2018 06:07
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It's good watch it once you're caught up on the expanse if you aren't
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Feb 18, 2018 06:11
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since. Lighten up and watch it. It really does feel like he had to pepper the pilot with it because that's what's expected of the Family Guy guy. After a bit it still keeps things light but the humor is less forced.
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Feb 18, 2018 06:14
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The best episode of a the Orville is episode 12, “Mad Idolatry”, which is in direct conversation with TNG episode “Who Watches The Watchers”.
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Feb 18, 2018 06:19
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since. If you loved TNG, you'll probably like this. If you didn't like TNG, then don't bother. It is more like TNG+the Office than TNG+Family Guy. The people working on the ship aren't the practically perfect in almost every way like the TNG crew, but they aren't bafflingly incompetent morons like family guy either. They are mostly competent at their jobs and friendly, but they aren't all socially smooth so they have awkward moments and bad habits. Like the folks in The Office, they can be goofy or juvenile sometimes, and office politics plays a role rather than the perfectly efficient meritocracy running things in TNG. You can imagine someone like yourself or your brother-in-law working on this ship. Honestly it would take very little tweaking for this to be perfectly plausible as happening in the same universe at the same time as TNG. The Enterprise is the big flagship with all the best people in starfleet, and the Orville is . . . also a starship. One of the smaller and less prestigious ones, nobody's first pick for a posting, but still upholding Federation principals and doing important work.
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Feb 18, 2018 06:23
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The Orville is a TNG workplace comedy.
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Feb 18, 2018 06:33
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Peachfart posted:Watch the pilot, it is the worst episode but not terrible. Then watch a few more episodes and watch it get really good really fast. If you watch the pilot and find it at least bearable and you find a couple of the character concepts at least mildly compelling then you're probably good to go. It'll never get worse than the pilot in terms of dumb humor or general awkwardness, and the characters/stories get a whole lot more compelling. There are dick jokes and the like, but for the most part it's presented jokes made by people in a work setting. They're more or less character driven and don't undercut the setting.
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Feb 18, 2018 08:17
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AndyElusive posted:Orville to me is a chance to sensibly chuckle at jokes that don't completely undercut the drama of whatever story it was telling. I stopped chuckling entirely by later episodes but I still appreciated it for trying. Then Bortus had me laughing out of nowhere like an idiot and I was completely on board. Bortus and his spouse are dead pan humor scientifically perfected. You should give the show a chance for Bortus alone.
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Feb 18, 2018 08:26
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Here is an example of the juvenile humor that doesn't spoil anything important. Not exactly a dick or fart joke, but there is some digestion related stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c7FL9QV1bs
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Feb 18, 2018 08:37
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Kung Food posted:Bortus and his spouse are dead pan humor scientifically perfected. You should give the show a chance for Bortus alone. I WILL NOT FAIL YOU.
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shovelbum posted:It's good watch it once you're caught up on the expanse if you aren't I tried to watch the Expanse but the dialogue is so mumbly that I can't tell what's going on, I just stop paying attention. I did try subtitles but the Netflix ones are loving enormous and intrusive.
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