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Kyte posted:She's pointing out he's gone beyond fair retaliation into literally the same thing that spurred Eren's own quest for revenge. We know Eren is perfectly aware of the gravity of his actions, but Mikasa doesn't. It's not that. This is literally the first time Eren's killed people. Innocent men, women and children at that. Mikasa, precisely because of who she is and her history, understands both the cold logic behind it and the horror Eren unleashed upon them: she experienced it first-hand along with him when her world was taken from her. She's sad for him because he's become a murderer. To protect him has always been her purpose, and it breaks her heart to see him like this.
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# ? Feb 7, 2018 21:42 |
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I was more pointing out that both sides are surprised at the carnage when the world just announced their intent to genocide a bunch of islanders and suddenly civilians are dying.
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# ? Feb 7, 2018 21:49 |
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Porco getting his rear end whooped and fleeing was hilarious. Instantly in over his head the moment he shows up.
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# ? Feb 7, 2018 22:14 |
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Conspiratiorist posted:This is literally the first time Eren's killed people. Innocent men, women and children at that. nah he and mikasa both killed people before. remember the backstory of how they first met? those guys weren't innocent, granted, but still he also ate his dad. not exactly in control of his own actions there but it happened
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# ? Feb 7, 2018 22:40 |
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Lamebot posted:Porco getting his rear end whooped and fleeing was hilarious. Instantly in over his head the moment he shows up. I really liked that. He was the only one who hadn't really fought other titans or 3DMG and his inexperience showed. He didn't even realize what had happened when levi slashed his jaw
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# ? Feb 7, 2018 23:09 |
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tweet my meat posted:I really liked that. He was the only one who hadn't really fought other titans or 3DMG and his inexperience showed. He didn't even realize what had happened when levi slashed his jaw It's a nice parallel to the late scouting legion veterans having no experience fighting titan shifters.
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 00:02 |
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who would a have thunk that generations of oppression and fighting a bleak war against the titans would have turned the people of paradis island into extremely efficient man killers
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 00:38 |
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QUIT PLAYING WITH YOUR FOOD YOU FUCKER
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 02:14 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:nah he and mikasa both killed people before. remember the backstory of how they first met? those guys weren't innocent, granted, but still Slavers aren't people.
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 02:52 |
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Zeke's gonna switch sides.
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 03:32 |
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I hope he does and then just gets stabbed in the back for being a snitch. Also what exactly is Reiner's plan for passing on the armoured titan anyway? One of those kids would get the full war crime experience from his memories and they'll probably snap and go hard in one direction or another between Marley and Eldian.
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 03:53 |
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Which is part of why he didn't want his relative to get the power. At one point they said the closer the familial link the easier it is to access past memories.
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 04:24 |
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is reiner still trapped in that buildingConspiratiorist posted:Slavers aren't people.
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 04:48 |
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HoneyBoy posted:QUIT PLAYING WITH YOUR FOOD YOU FUCKER
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 05:15 |
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HoneyBoy posted:QUIT PLAYING WITH YOUR FOOD YOU FUCKER
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 06:43 |
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comedyblissoption posted:maybe it's difficult to eat a titan crystal so it didn't matter MAYBE IT'S NOT, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE EREN IS HESITANT AS gently caress I have to wonder what they've done with Annie at this point, so many technological/weapons and Titan biotech advancements in such a short amount of time, there's gotta be some progress there.
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 08:38 |
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Is this the final arc of the series? Warhammer Jaw Beast Cart vs Founder/Attack Colossus with Female Armor wild cards. I don't see how this could ever be topped.
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 08:56 |
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Sub Harrison posted:Is this the final arc of the series? Warhammer Jaw Beast Cart vs Founder/Attack Colossus with Female Armor wild cards. I don't see how this could ever be topped.
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 10:26 |
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Sub Harrison posted:Is this the final arc of the series? Warhammer Jaw Beast Cart vs Founder/Attack Colossus with Female Armor wild cards. I don't see how this could ever be topped. Armin: I want to say one word to you. Just one word. Eren: Yes, sir. Armin: Are you listening? Eren: Yes, I am. Armin: Walltitans.
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 15:07 |
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Fhqwhgads posted:Armin: I want to say one word to you. Just one word. To be fair, they don't even need the walls anymore after killing the rest of the titans on the island.
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 19:30 |
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change my name posted:To be fair, they don't even need the walls anymore after killing the rest of the titans on the island. Exactly where I'm going with this. The wall titans could now be an offensive force, assuming for some wild reason they tore down the walls in the past five years.
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 20:59 |
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Fhqwhgads posted:Exactly where I'm going with this. The wall titans could now be an offensive force, assuming for some wild reason they tore down the walls in the past five years. They'd still need Coordinate to control them. So unless they've managed to turn Historia into a shifter they probably aren't anywhere near the mainland.
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 21:10 |
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In It For The Tank posted:Zeke's gonna switch sides.
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Sub Harrison posted:Is this the final arc of the series? Warhammer Jaw Beast Cart vs Founder/Attack Colossus with Female Armor wild cards. I don't see how this could ever be topped. I feel like there's going to be one more arc, with one last big reveal of some sort. There are still Eldians all around the world that are forced to live in internment camps. Even if Paradis defeats Marley, I feel like they won't want to stop there. There's also the issue of Titans existing at all. They're still going to exist no matter who wins this war, and I feel like something is going to be done about them before the end. We still don't know for sure which story about their origin is true, or even if either of them are. Maybe the source of Titans is still out there somewhere.
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 21:51 |
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snucks posted:I very much bought into Zeke switching sides, but he hasn't done anything so far (persuading the other shifters or actively stopping them before they could attack Eren and company), and he very much doesn't seem like the type of person to have a change of heart mid-battle. Something that makes AOT way better than most Action Genre stuff is that once people start killing they stop talking, and any previous excuses for deescalation (mainly keeping Eren as a live hostage for transport back to Marley) are currently out the window. Eren sending letters through the Marley post points toward subterfuge beyond what's been revealed, and while that might not specifically imply collusion with Zeke, I don't doubt it will lead into something major.
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 22:11 |
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I'd just like to say that after the timeskip character development I'm pretty happy that Reiner wasn't killed back during their last encounter on Paradis. It was frustrating at the time but I like his character so much more now that it really paid off in spades.
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 22:15 |
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Viridiant posted:I'd just like to say that after the timeskip character development I'm pretty happy that Reiner wasn't killed back during their last encounter on Paradis. It was frustrating at the time but I like his character so much more now that it really paid off in spades. Yeah, he wouldn't have suffered nearly enough if he just bit it there relatively pain-free .
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 22:17 |
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The Warhammer seems a bit too powerful, if either Armin or Eren get its power, it'll be like a cheat code allowing them to defeat anyone.
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# ? Feb 17, 2018 23:53 |
Eej posted:I was more pointing out that both sides are surprised at the carnage when the world just announced their intent to genocide a bunch of islanders and suddenly civilians are dying. The Islanders aren't surprised. Some of them are conflicted because they know what it's like to be subject to a massacre, for families to flee in panic and children to be crushed by rubble... but they're all prepared to do it anyway. This story is really loving sad. There is no glory here.
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# ? Feb 18, 2018 01:05 |
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Say Nothing posted:The Warhammer seems a bit too powerful, if either Armin or Eren get its power, it'll be like a cheat code allowing them to defeat anyone. Eiba posted:This story is really loving sad. There is no glory here. snucks fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Feb 18, 2018 |
# ? Feb 18, 2018 09:35 |
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At this point the only characters I have any hope for, in terms of them not living life waist deep in blood as a brutal killer... I guess Falco? Gabi seems a little too gung ho, she might be too far gone already.
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# ? Feb 18, 2018 10:19 |
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I bet falco inherits the armor titan tbh
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# ? Feb 18, 2018 10:25 |
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Say Nothing posted:The Warhammer seems a bit too powerful, if either Armin or Eren get its power, it'll be like a cheat code allowing them to defeat anyone. it's only powerful because Eren is fighting it, anyone else will kill it immediately because eren is never allowed to win a fight, ever Eiba posted:What civilians on the island? It's an island of demons. These are real people who I know and care about who are dying. that's what makes it kind of lame tbh, pretty much every major revelation seems to have been designed to systematically eliminate everything interesting about the setting timeskip to everything being just a boring glob of grey morality is par for the course
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 19:13 |
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Schwarzwald posted:Eren sending letters through the Marley post points toward subterfuge beyond what's been revealed, and while that might not specifically imply collusion with Zeke, I don't doubt it will lead into something major. It was strongly hinted that Eren was in contact with Zeke, since Zeke loves baseball and Eren got a baseball glove "from his relatives" while he was in that hospital.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 21:40 |
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Yinlock posted:that's what makes it kind of lame tbh, pretty much every major revelation seems to have been designed to systematically eliminate everything interesting about the setting Completely disagree; I think the time-skip and subsequent events have been really good and extremely unusual for such a popular shounen series. It was a really risky change to suddenly have a bunch of chapters not featuring the main characters (and for the main characters to be adults when they show up) in a series like this. The more cliche "grey morality" outcome would be something along the lines of Eren acknowledging neither side is purely evil and finding a "third option" that somehow avoided with the island being destroyed or attacking Marley.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 07:06 |
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I don't understand how you can find post-timeskip boring. It's been a thorough explanation of Reiner, Bert and Annie's actions for the first 80 chapters, and was a great parallel to the theme of part one: sacrificing your humanity for mankind. Reiner genocided Wall Maria to save his people, just like Eren has attacked Liberio to protect his. And to say Eren vs Reiner is "boring grey morality" is absurd. The fact Eren and Reiner have both committed atrocities yet neither can be called the good or bad guy makes it the most interesting manga I've ever read.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 09:05 |
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Yinlock posted:it's only powerful because Eren is fighting it, anyone else will kill it immediately because eren is never allowed to win a fight, ever I'm not sure what you want it to be exactly. Everything interesting about the setting has been enhanced because it moved away from just being about giant zombies eating people, as cool as that setting was. If it was anything else than what it is right now, I wouldn't like it half as much. Scenes like Eren stating he would go ahead with his plan to Reiner, knowing that he was basically brainwashed and all the innocent people Eren would kill, is what makes this manga so good.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 09:31 |
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I don’t see the grey morality when the Marleyans are pretty explicitly bad.
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 02:30 |
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He wanted it to be a zombie movie with giants. I think what we got was way more interesting, but hey.
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 02:38 |
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theCalamity posted:I don’t see the grey morality when the Marleyans are pretty explicitly bad. Something about two wrongs leave everyone blind I don't know man
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