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Toops posted:I had to write a data generator over the weekend that can create 10+ years of user data history for millions of users to make sure my stupid GDPR code works at scale because the testers apparently can't write a while loop. It's all hosed isn't it, we really are all hosed
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SomethingJones posted:It's all hosed isn't it, we really are all hosed Nah it's fine. They're looking for the 0.1% diamond Star Citizens in the rough, not us.
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Feb 20, 2018 09:57
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Toops posted:Nah it's fine. They're looking for the 0.1% diamond Star Citizens in the rough, not us. I was chatting to a girl who does online or mobile advertising stuff with facebook, I was slightly drunk but the gist was that it learns your route home from work and throws adverts up for things that you will find on your way home I have no idea if this is bollocks or actually a thing Wait until they have advert holograms coming into your house, slipping in through the catflap, wearily flashing their message onto the curtains, *get a refund*
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Feb 20, 2018 10:03
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SomethingJones posted:Was this posted in the thread yet? They do not have confidence that they will fix the underlying performance issues by 3.3/3.4. Turns out that tracking a bajillion entities is computationally intensive. So where does that leave the 3.1 'performance' patch... lol
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SomethingJones posted:It's all hosed isn't it, we really are all hosed Little bit, yeah.
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SomethingJones posted:I was chatting to a girl who does online or mobile advertising stuff with facebook, I was slightly drunk but the gist was that it learns your route home from work and throws adverts up for things that you will find on your way home True holograms or fake holograms? This is important!
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Feb 20, 2018 10:12
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Tokamak posted:They do not have confidence that they will fix the underlying performance issues by 3.3/3.4. Turns out that tracking a bajillion entities is computationally intensive. So where does that leave the 3.1 'performance' patch... lol I don't think we've ever seen a kickstarted project put out a build of a game with diabolical performance, and then leave it out in the wild for over a year whilst trying to bolt in some gameplay and a few extra servers It took Frontier 2 years to get the whole instancing down to reasonably painless transitions, CIG are talking about spinning up a server, creating an instance, and grabbing all the player data and then they're talking about doing this in localised areas That is a complete nightmare - and if they somehow achieve it there's nowhere else to take it or scale it up - because if you add more servers you add more instance boundaries, if you add more areas you need more servers, to handle 1000 players you'll need 100 servers which will all be saturated as players move around. The problems are as serious as they are obvious
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Feb 20, 2018 10:17
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SomethingJones posted:I don't think we've ever seen a kickstarted project put out a build of a game with diabolical performance, and then leave it out in the wild for over a year whilst trying to bolt in some gameplay and a few extra servers problems? waves hands no problems!
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Feb 20, 2018 10:19
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I hear FORTRAN is good for physics engines. Maybe they should use that.
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Feb 20, 2018 10:34
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SomethingJones posted:Was this posted in the thread yet?  "what we eventually want to achieve"
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Feb 20, 2018 11:20
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Toops posted:
Well gently caress, that's all my free time gone then... 
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Feb 20, 2018 11:43
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XK posted:Off topic, but A deskeletonization procedure would probably fix that 
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Feb 20, 2018 11:56
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XK posted:Off topic, but I definitely got that one or two years ago. The teeth aching got better after a day or maybe a few iirc. Painkillers helped a little. I think sleep helps a lot more if you can afford it.
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Wait, stop, reboot everything. How did this not get laughed off the internet back in Kickstarter days? quote:
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SomethingJones posted:Was this posted in the thread yet? So instances.
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Pixelate posted:Wait, stop, reboot everything. I.... just assumed CR and the Gjeniuses at Crytek had figured out one neat trick that let them optimize games better than everyone else, and that optimization meant including more polys, not cleverly including fewer. I wasn't thinking.
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Potato Salad posted:I.... just assumed CR and the Gjeniuses at Crytek had figured out one neat trick that let them optimize games better than everyone else, and that optimization meant including more polys, not cleverly including fewer. Well now see what you've done! Somebody fetch a high-fidelity mop...
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:You know how you guy are always joking about Ortwin being a vampire? Now this is a classy post
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Feb 20, 2018 12:38
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Toops posted:I had to write a data generator over the weekend that can create 10+ years of user data history for millions of users to make sure my stupid GDPR code works at scale because the testers apparently can't write a while loop. For me it's more about explaining to companies why they now need to see their database of hundreds of thousands of subscribers be decimated for reasons, it's not a good discussion to have
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Feb 20, 2018 12:49
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Mr.Tophat posted:Now this is a classy post The third coutt is the deepest
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I wonder if boring everyone to death until they gently caress off and forget about the game is part of the exit strategy. Judge Judy is our best hope for laughs with no CIG at Gamescom this year.
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peter gabriel posted:For me it's more about explaining to companies why they now need to see their database of hundreds of thousands of subscribers be decimated for reasons, it's not a good discussion to have So CIG will now have to bulk-cleanup their near-two-million subscriber database? 
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peter gabriel posted:The third coutt is the deepest A coutt above the rest
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Quavers posted:So CIG will now have to bulk-cleanup their near-two-million subscriber database? They'll just slap a big, 'required for business function' sticker on it and call it a day. That's what everyone else is doing.
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AP posted:I wonder if boring everyone to death until they gently caress off and forget about the game is part of the exit strategy. Judge Judy is our best hope for laughs with no CIG at Gamescom this year. Given the timing of events of the Crytek suit, it is quite likely that the lawsuit will still be in play during Gamescom. So the energy normally devoted to spinning up the latest demo will be diverted elsewhere in preparation for a trial. If they don't settle, talk of the lawsuit would drown out the message they want to sell and magnify the image they want to avoid. This is all good for Star Citizen.
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Feb 20, 2018 13:48
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Quavers posted:So CIG will now have to bulk-cleanup their near-two-million subscriber database? Yes, they still send me emails even though my account was
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SomethingJones posted:Was this posted in the thread yet? Cao Ni Ma posted:So instances. My extremely tepid call is that this ends up being the final implementation lol. Except I can't claim to call that because we've all been saying it from day one
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AP posted:I wonder if boring everyone to death until they gently caress off and forget about the game is part of the exit strategy. Judge Judy is our best hope for laughs with no CIG at Gamescom this year. It worked for them last gamescom. If they hadn't shown SQ42 at citcon we would have had a total bust of a convention season. But I mean it's CIG, right? So surely it won't be very long before the next land sale or whatever. We just have to hope those meager rations sustain us, even though 90% of the most ridiculous bullshit about CIG has just become normalized to us.
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Beet Wagon posted:It worked for them last gamescom. If they hadn't shown SQ42 at citcon we would have had a total bust of a convention season. But I mean it's CIG, right? So surely it won't be very long before the next land sale or whatever. We just have to hope those meager rations sustain us, even though 90% of the most ridiculous bullshit about CIG has just become normalized to us. I'm exhausted and half asleep and initially read that as "I" worked for them last gamescom. And I was suddenly awake thinking what what what!??1
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Lladre posted:I'm exhausted and half asleep and initially read that as "I" worked for them last gamescom. And I was suddenly awake thinking what what what!??1 God that would be amazing. I'd honestly do it, just to have funny stories about CIG to tell while also fueling  posts in the thread about how I was a CIG plant all along.
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Quavers posted:So CIG will now have to bulk-cleanup their near-two-million subscriber database? What a lot of places have to do is give subscribers the chance to re opt in, and that gets about a 10% success rate 
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peter gabriel posted:What a lot of places have to do is give subscribers the chance to re opt in, and that gets about a 10% success rate Funnily enough I have been tasked with cleaning up the customer subscriber list here (extremely small by data standards) and I know like
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Beet Wagon posted:My extremely tepid call is that this ends up being the final implementation lol. I dont loving understand why they beat around the bush so much. What he's describing is plain old instances. In todays world of computing there are very few real physical servers, its all virtual instances of servers spun up dynamically by the cloud service. Substitute every mention of server with instance and you'd get something thats more understandable to MMO players. Actually I perfectly understand why they beat around the bush. Instances is a dirty word that reminds people of Elite
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Lladre posted:Funnily enough I have been tasked with cleaning up the customer subscriber list here (extremely small by data standards) and I know like Oh yeah, panning for gold as I call it, pretty much every database like that is crammed full of poo poo. It's an impossible task sorting it out, even if you have a small company say with 500 users in a Mailchimp type system you can bet half will be bullshit accounts. Trying to convince a company that they are wasting money every month sending mail to no one is harder than you'd think, having 100,000 subscribers is a badge of honour to some places, it's bizarre.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I dont loving understand why they beat around the bush so much. What he's describing is plain old instances. In todays world of computing there are very few real physical servers, its all virtual instances of servers spun up dynamically by the cloud service. Substitute every mention of server with instance and you'd get something thats more understandable to MMO players. It's not even just that it reminds people of Elite, really. They hung their hat on this incredible new server technology they were going to wizard up. I can't tell you how many posts I've made or seen guys like Beer make on reddit going "Dude, you guys know they're just gonna end up doing instances, right?" only to get literally bowled over with people actually furious that you'd dare impugn Chris Roberts's honor. CR and his crew sold Star Citizen as revolutionary, as a universe that's the next best thing to whatever they call that dumb bullshit in Ready Player One. Every time they have to make an announcement of a shortcut they're taking or a feature they're cutting, it reminds all the backers of the reality: it's just a game. There's nothing revolutionary about it, and it's not gonna change the world, and that's not what they've been telling people for years.
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