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Also I'm pretty sure Melnyk hates the Pens so I don't think he'd ever sign off on a Karlsson trade to them anyways.
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I’m seeing some posts on FB saying Wayne Simmonds wasn’t at morning skate and will be out for 2-3 weeks with an upper body injury.
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Aphrodite posted:There has to still be a bunch of real money well below cap hit contracts out there too. Melnyk would love to take one of those back. He could take back Clarkson from Vegas. Cap hit without cash hit (I assume insurance is payin). That’s actually valuable for a guy like Melnyk.
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If Karlsson does get traded I do hope it is to Vegas. That'd be awesome. He'd instantly be the guy there.
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ThinkTank posted:Like Loui Eriksson who is objectively so forgettable that he make Brendan Gaunce look like an electrifying player but still gets 16 minutes a night because he's paid $6M. Sven Baertschi who is considerably less sucky gets scratched in favour of him. It's cool that if I made a mock team featuring all the most boring players in the NHL that the Canucks would make up half the team.
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I wish the Leafs still had Phaneuf so they could trade him for Karlsson. Alternatively, we have this young stud RD named Nikita Zaitsev. He's signed long term, has mediocre possession stats and takes untinely penalties. I think he'd fit in perfectly. Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Feb 20, 2018 |
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Feb 20, 2018 17:33
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Sigh. Why can't everyone be bad?
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ThinkTank posted:Or Erik Gudbranson who is on track to sign a $16-18M deal today and never gets his minutes reduced in any way despite the fact that 1) he sucks 2) he really sucks 3) he really really sucks. Ben Hutton has been scratched 10 times in the last 23 games even though he's way better. Mostly because Gudbranson is a 'vet' and Hutton is a 'kid' because of the whopping 15 month age difference between the two.
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Ginette Reno posted:If Karlsson does get traded I do hope it is to Vegas. That'd be awesome. He'd instantly be the guy there. i want this so bad
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Ginette Reno posted:If Karlsson does get traded I do hope it is to Vegas. That'd be awesome. He'd instantly be the guy there. A Schmidt-Karlsson pairing would be a beautiful thing to watch and I want this to happen.
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Spring Break My Heart posted:The fun thing is they're not playing him that much. Ice time wise he's their 6th defenseman, 3 seconds above Troy Stecher, and it's a 3 minute drop off from what they gave him last year so it's this weird divide where they don't actually think high enough of him to play him a lot but still want to give him a big contract. Between how he affected management in Florida and now Vancouver he must have mentalist powers. That's been dragged down a fair bit by the three serious injuries he's had this year. They've eased him back into the lineup, but when fully healthy he's been playing 20+ minutes a night. Management and the coaching staff see him as the #3 behind Edler and Tanev.
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I was looking at the stars cap situation to see if a deal could be worked out but then realized that any deal would probably see Klingberg going back and I'm having none of that. That said, Ottawa can take, I dunno, hamhuis or methot back along with lethonen and all the picks and prospects. It'll never happen but a pp consisting of Seguin, Benn, Radulov, Klingberg, and loving Erik Karlsson Fuuuuuuuuck I jus came.
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Feb 20, 2018 18:00
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MazelTovCocktail posted:I’m seeing some posts on FB saying Wayne Simmonds wasn’t at morning skate and will be out for 2-3 weeks with an upper body injury. That might explain the Lindblom call up
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Jim Devellano, Hakan Andersson, and Scotty Bowman made the Red Wings a juggernaut through scouting and drafting. Ken Holland has no idea how a salary cap works to this day and it's been fifteen years.
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https://twitter.com/NHLBruins/status/965998246819659777 Who's that I had a moment of panic and thought he was the expensive guy the Rangers sent to the minors
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Washington waived Taylor Chorney for anyone who needs defenseman who's no good at everything, yet is still probably better than Brooks Orpik.
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https://twitter.com/russianmachine/status/965997491425628165 Oh well?
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Infidel Castro posted:That might explain the Lindblom call up Yeah, I thought it might have been trade related or something, but clearly this makes more sense.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:https://twitter.com/NHLBruins/status/965998246819659777 Nick Holden is bad, so I approve of him going to the Bruins
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a third round pick and a nothing prospect for a mediocre third pairing guy seems like a stupid trade since Boston already has seven defensemen and a perfectly fine mediocre third pairing guy scratched (Postma) on the team already. as long as he doesn't gently caress up too bad then, whatever, I guess
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Holden is not even a 3rd pairing guy.
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Jim Benning said last week that teams weren't willing to move prospects and picks for rentals this year (amazingly convenient given that is his #1 job right now). He's a real dunce.
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yeah I'd rather have the 3rd round pick, don't care about losing O'Gara at all. He was never going to get a shot in Boston with all the prospects the Bruins have there.
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Eh Holden is alright if you don’t try to play him over his head all the time
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Aphrodite posted:Holden is not even a 3rd pairing guy. He was playing on the first pair in New York!
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Neodoomium posted:Jim Devellano, Hakan Andersson, and Scotty Bowman made the Red Wings a juggernaut through scouting and drafting. Ken Holland has no idea how a salary cap works to this day and it's been fifteen years. I mean, it’s not a hill to die on but this is just fundamentally false. Ken Holland had one of the best salary cap teams for about ~5 years and has been recognized in NHL circles as the guy who broke the cap via rules-lawyering his way into extremely favorable contracts for his stars. He hosed it all up later, obviously, and there’s no defense for that. But he was initially good at managing the team in the cap era.
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e: so your defense of him is that he was so used to being able to wield untold riches that he cheated rather than trying to understand how to manage money and assets properly, and then when he was caught, he collapsed into a singularity of lifetime deals for local bottom 6 plugs? Just making sure I understand i am the bird posted:For sure. But he still managed to run an excellent cap team during the 2000s in order to manage top end talent while also fitting in enough supplementary dudes that did not destroy their cap. It’s kind of amazing that he had a core of 4 good defenseman and two elite forwards and still managed his money right to have an excellent supporting cast. An excellent cap team that let Hossa walk and employed Dallas Drake in the 21st century. Jim Devellano, Hakan Andersson and Mike Illitch's well of Scrooge McDuck Detroit blood money built this team and nothing more. Ken Holland has always been a joke, it just didn't become apparent until 2010 Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Feb 20, 2018 |
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If they give Holden easy minutes he will be serviceable - he has some offensive capabilities. He's not a bad warm body on the back end for a playoff run in case someone gets hurt. A 3rd is a good return for the Rangers.
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Holden can add some offense on a third pairing. Any higher and he's outmatched. Great trade for the Rangers, though.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:An excellent cap team that let Hossa walk and employed Dallas Drake in the 21st century. They played one season each with the Wings and lost in game 7 of the finals and won a cup respectively. Are you faulting Holland for not signing Hossa to the giant contract he got? Isn't not letting go of players who are overpriced the problem the team has now?
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If you don't see the difference in signing Hossa almost a decade ago and giving Justin Abdelkader 32 million dollars I really don't know what the gently caress to tell you
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Holden was kicked off the Avalanche after their abysmal year.
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https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/966004641296146433 Sorry CAS, Gudbranson 3 years $12 mil
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Teemu Pokemon posted:If you don't see the difference in signing Hossa almost a decade ago and giving Justin Abdelkader 32 million dollars I really don't know what the gently caress to tell you I do but I'm not sure what your point is... He made a hard decision of a talented guy who he got for a song the summer before but wanted long term security. Hossa was 30 when he signed his 12 year deal with Chicago. That's a bitter pill to swallow and while it worked out well for the Hawks, it was a serious risk. Signing Abdelkader to that deal is probably partly because he let Hossa walk and regretted it and didn't want to make the same mistake. I'm not saying he's done a good job recently, I just don't get the retrospective iconoclasm of an era where the team had a bunch of success.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:If you don't see the difference in signing Hossa almost a decade ago and giving Justin Abdelkader 32 million dollars I really don't know what the gently caress to tell you Okay but these are unrelated deals and also take place in two different time periods. I’ve already granted that Holland has been atrocious in the final Lidstrom year onward, and that his decline probably started around 2010. It’s just a fiction to say that Holland was an awful GM from 2006-2010 when, in fact, he oversaw two of the best Detroit rosters the franchise has ever seen.
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grack posted:Nick Holden is bad, so I approve of him going to the Bruins instant karma https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/status/966004529283047424
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Nick Holden has lots of hits. There it is.
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The Dirty Burger posted:https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/966004641296146433 Honestly, not as awful as I feared. Still the wrong decision. https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/966005467922051072 I wish I got triple what I was worth because I said nice things every so often.
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