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The split point is shortly after saber is summoned so not that much retreading. You can even skip the prologue on replays so even less.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 18:39 |
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Oh right on! Thanks for the quick and informative responses.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 18:43 |
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There's zero overlap between the three routes after Day 3. Fate and Heaven's Feel have the Berserker fight play out the same way then diverge after, UBW diverges hard starting at the Berserker fight.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 19:12 |
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Make sure to collect all the death scenes for the Taiga Dojo.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 20:00 |
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RevolverDivider posted:There's zero overlap between the three routes after Day 3. Fate and Heaven's Feel have the Berserker fight play out the same way then diverge after, UBW diverges hard starting at the Berserker fight. There's definitely a lot of repetition on exposition, with scenes that play out almost exactly the same. Hot take: you could skip the VN and watch ufotable's adaptation. Aside from a couple scenes that work better in text, the anime gives off a strong vibe of "hey Nasu, if you could've done things differently, what'd you change?" to the improvement of the story.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 20:37 |
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I would agree if we were talking about UBW season 1, but outside of a few standout moments, season 2 was largely nowhere near as good.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 20:39 |
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If one is new to the franchise and has already gone through Fate there's really no reason to skip UBW VN, literally the only reason I'd ever do so is for people who absolutely refuse to read VNs in the first place.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 20:43 |
If you don't read all three routes of the VN + 100% Hollow Ataraxia, then you're frankly disgusting and might not even qualify for human rights.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 20:45 |
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Good arguments but at least when it comes to Heaven's Feel, after watching the first film I can already tell I'm going to be sending people directly to that rather than reading the route.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 20:48 |
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The VN still does a better job at UBW np scene.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 21:04 |
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At this point I think I'm gonna finish the VN because I've already done a whole route in it. If any of the other adaptations are good though, I'll definitely check them out. For that matter, what would you consider must-[read/view/play] in regards to Fate? I've heard good things about the Fate/Zero anime so I was planning to check that out after I finish Fate/stay night. I'm already playing Grand Order, which is what got me in this mess in the first place.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 21:22 |
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Conspiratiorist posted:There's definitely a lot of repetition on exposition, with scenes that play out almost exactly the same. actually you're wrong and should drown in your ideals and die
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 21:27 |
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100 degrees Calcium posted:At this point I think I'm gonna finish the VN because I've already done a whole route in it. If any of the other adaptations are good though, I'll definitely check them out. Fate/hollow ataraxia is a direct sequel/follow-up VN to FSN and is an absolutely joy to experience. It has a "serious" plot for one to digest but its main appeal is that it is able to focus more on slice-of-life shenanigans and has some of the best character moments and catharsis in the entire franchise as you get to know a lot of characters from the original better. It honestly might be my favorite Fate work. As a Grand Order player, it will definitely help inform a lot of things about the franchise in that game, as well as the tone that the franchise likes to take when it wants to get silly (see, also: Carnival Phantasm). There are some other things like Fate/Extra or Apocrypha but YMMV with those. Zero and hollow ataraxia are the two that I feel strongest about and would call mandatory, especially hollow ataraxia.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 22:00 |
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Id only really call ha mandatory
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 00:43 |
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I don't really know what I expected, but I feel like the scene-skipping in Fate/stay night is really slick. This is going to be painless, and probably mercifully fast compared to my first playthrough. I was dreading needing to flip through pages and pages of Fujimura flipping out over breakfast or whatever.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 02:58 |
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fuji... yama...? *said as i unsheathe my blade*
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 03:26 |
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fujimaru ritsuka-nee
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 03:35 |
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carnival phantasm should be considered mandatory along with hollow ataraxia imo
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 04:03 |
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The lovely thing is, the moment I realized my error, the forums went down. Early on and Unlimited Blade Works is already really intense! Each route apparently gets its own OP in Realta Nua and seeing what kind of changes this one teases was enticing. I'm really psyched right now.
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100 degrees Calcium posted:The lovely thing is, the moment I realized my error, the forums went down. you should look up the vita openings too, those are crazy good
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 04:31 |
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you should also watch the heavens feel movie
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 04:35 |
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astr0man posted:carnival phantasm should be considered mandatory along with hollow ataraxia imo The problem being Carnival Phantasm is only 60% Fate. So, they wouldn't get why creepy animal monster dude has the same voice as Kire or why each episode opens with a bunch of pallet swapped chibi catgirl clones of which one has the same voice as Kire.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 04:38 |
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AlternateNu posted:The problem being Carnival Phantasm is only 60% Fate. So, they wouldn't get why creepy animal monster dude has the same voice as Kire or why each episode opens with a bunch of pallet swapped chibi catgirl clones of which one has the same voice as Kire. Well there is an easy (if somewhat time-consuming) solution to that...
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 04:56 |
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There's parts of Tsukihime that are brilliant, but it's even more flawed than F/SN. There are parts that make me think, "That's not in very good taste, Nasu," and parts that make be think, "This is basically Twilight for boys, isn't it?"
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:08 |
Curry and rear end.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:11 |
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I like Nasu when he's doing urban horror/noir so I'm still pretty fond of it, and am really looking forward to what the team can do in the remake, assuming Monoji Tsukuri is the director at least.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:14 |
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Silver2195 posted:There's parts of Tsukihime that are brilliant, but it's even more flawed than F/SN. There are parts that make me think, "That's not in very good taste, Nasu," and parts that make be think, "This is basically Twilight for boys, isn't it?" I still remember the night time meeting between two serial killers years afterward.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:18 |
Tsukihime is really good, and people who have not read it are beneath even the Secondaries, may Allah have mercy on them
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:19 |
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Freak Futanari posted:Tsukihime is really good, and people who have not read it are beneath even the Secondaries, may Allah have mercy on them
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:29 |
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Also, read the Tsukihime manga
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:33 |
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Everyone should experience DOORSHARK at least once.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:34 |
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Twilight for Boys is pretty much spot on. And made me reconsider my own earlier biases and hang ups about the Twilight series after watching that one episode of LWA where I decided that if Twilight was an anime I'd probably like it a lot. I still think it's fair to critique the more puritan religious subtext of twilight though. Nine of Eight posted:Everyone should experience DOORSHARK at least once. I got it on my first try.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:40 |
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Holy poo poo I forgot about doorshark. I really need to play all the routes I missed. In UBW News NO WHY
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:48 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:Twilight for Boys is pretty much spot on. And made me reconsider my own earlier biases and hang ups about the Twilight series after watching that one episode of LWA where I decided that if Twilight was an anime I'd probably like it a lot. Tsukihime has a protagonist whereas Twilight doesn't, has a wide cast of likeable characters, and it also feels like a story that's part of a larger world to which effort was put into. You can argue about similarity of goals but the level of execution is incomparable, and if you think you'd like Twilight if it was an anime (btw it exists), you're just admitting to having really bad taste.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:51 |
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100 degrees Calcium posted:Holy poo poo I forgot about doorshark. I really need to play all the routes I missed. Look man, Taiga may not look it, but she is a responsible adult. She's not gonna let Shirou, a healthy young teenage boy, let healthy young teenage girl(s) stay over unsupervised.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:54 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Look man, Taiga may not look it, but she is a responsible adult. She's not gonna let Shirou, a healthy young teenage boy, let healthy young teenage girl(s) stay over unsupervised. It's not fair. In the last timeline I had my stomach scooped out by a roided out demigod, but at least Taiga went the gently caress home and stayed home.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:57 |
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Conspiratiorist posted:Tsukihime has a protagonist whereas Twilight doesn't, has a wide cast of likeable characters, and it also feels like a story that's part of a larger world to which effort was put into. Shiki is kind of a crappy protagonist, TBH. He doesn't have a very consistent personality (which I suppose is due to the bajillion different magical and chemical factors messing with his brain, but that doesn't make him interesting), and he comes across as dense and/or an rear end in a top hat in the oddest ways sometimes (like how he ignored Akiha for a decade, then switched to ignoring Miyako Arima; kind of a lovely older brother). SHIKI is a compelling villain, but Nrvnqsr and Roa aren't (the former is too and the latter too pretentious.) I like all the heroines, though (Akiha in particular is a much-better character than she has a right to be, given her Doylist reason for existing). I definitely agree about the larger world; it's a pity we don't see more of those aspects of the Nasuverse (e.g., the other Dead Apostle Ancestors, the Burial Agency, the less Westernized parts of the Japanese supernatural community). Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Feb 21, 2018 |
# ? Feb 21, 2018 06:05 |
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The last Twilight movie doubles as one of the greatest comedies of our day.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 06:44 |
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100 degrees Calcium posted:It's not fair. In the last timeline I had my stomach scooped out by a roided out demigod, but at least Taiga went the gently caress home and stayed home. You... you are getting the Taiga Dojo's, right? I don't understand how someone could dislike Taiga.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 09:39 |
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Silver2195 posted:Shiki is kind of a crappy protagonist, TBH. He doesn't have a very consistent personality (which I suppose is due to the bajillion different magical and chemical factors messing with his brain, but that doesn't make him interesting), and he comes across as dense and/or an rear end in a top hat in the oddest ways sometimes (like how he ignored Akiha for a decade, then switched to ignoring Miyako Arima; kind of a lovely older brother). SHIKI is a compelling villain, but Nrvnqsr and Roa aren't (the former is too and the latter too pretentious.) I like all the heroines, though (Akiha in particular is a much-better character than she has a right to be, given her Doylist reason for existing).
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