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i mean i was a petty weirdo with brain problems who wanted to gently caress girls in weird ways when i was 17, too
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Feb 21, 2018 13:08
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i'm still a petty weirdo with brain problems who wants to gently caress girls in weird ways at age 26
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Feb 21, 2018 13:11
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Pureauthor posted:Also, read the Tsukihime manga The manga is legit better than the VN.
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Feb 21, 2018 13:20
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Aurora posted:i'm still a petty weirdo with brain problems who wants to gently caress girls in weird ways at age 26
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Feb 21, 2018 13:40
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There's no same big enough.
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Feb 21, 2018 13:52
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Look man, Taiga may not look it, but she is a responsible adult. She's not gonna let Shirou, a healthy young teenage boy, let healthy young teenage girl(s) stay over unsupervised.
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Feb 21, 2018 14:12
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Taiga is the best girl in Fate and you should be glad that she's going to be spending the night.
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Feb 21, 2018 15:05
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Conspiratiorist posted:Tsukihime has a protagonist whereas Twilight doesn't, has a wide cast of likeable characters, and it also feels like a story that's part of a larger world to which effort was put into. I think you're reading too much into my statement, I meant more if there was an anime with the same combination of tropes as Twilight. Which honestly in the broad strokes FSN/Tsukihime have strong similarities on the surface level. Execution is everything is kind of a tautology though because that's kinda always the case. Septem vs. Extra w.r.t Nero for example.
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Nero's interlude for unlocking Thrice Setting Sun/Invictus Spiritus did more for her character than the entirety of Septem.
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the real argument is that twilight is vastly overhated and is just kind of a mediocre bodice ripper and so using it as a constant frame of reference is dumb
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Feb 21, 2018 16:06
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Endorph posted:the real argument is that twilight is vastly overhated and is just kind of a mediocre bodice ripper and so using it as a constant frame of reference is dumb yeah aside from the baby stuff in the last book there's nothing really egregious about it especially in a post-fifty shades of grey world the actual screaming hate stephanie meyer got seems a lot weirder nowadays
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Feb 21, 2018 16:20
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Endorph posted:the real argument is that twilight is vastly overhated and is just kind of a mediocre bodice ripper and so using it as a constant frame of reference is dumb My biggest issue with the movie was being forced to watch it on the bus during a trip.
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Feb 21, 2018 16:23
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Blockhouse posted:yeah aside from the baby stuff in the last book there's nothing really egregious about it especially in a post-fifty shades of grey world a lot of teen girls liked it ergo Raenir Salazar posted:if there was an anime with the same combination of tropes as Twilight. ah, shoujo romance
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Feb 21, 2018 16:36
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Blockhouse posted:yeah aside from the baby stuff in the last book there's nothing really egregious about it especially in a post-fifty shades of grey world That said, 50SOG was repurposed Twilight fanfic, soo... Plus there were a few literal cults that used it as a recruitment tool (if you’re wondering, the blogger in question has a lot of experience with fanfiction cults, which are both funnier and more terrifying than they sound), which made things a bit more personal for a few Internet denizens. It may be a fairly standard supernatural bodice-ripper, but thanks to the wonders of the Internet, there’s an increasing number of folks out there who are quite good at weaponising those.
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i mean there's a fuckton of lord of the rings cults so im not gonna hold that against twilight
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and how can you hold one measly erotica against twilight when tolkien spawned most of the modern fantasy genre 
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Endorph posted:i mean there's a fuckton of lord of the rings cults so im not gonna hold that against twilight I guess you can argue that it’s better-designed to spawn those cults than most works, if you follow me. Like, any sufficiently popular work of fiction stands a chance of developing cults, but Twilight gave cult leaders an instruction manual. I’m prepared to defer to the folks with experience on this one.
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twilight really, really didn't. it is not remotely the first book to have a moderately troubling romance at its center. the only reason it spawned a lot of predators is that it was popular with teenage girls, and, surprise! a big part of the reason lonely teenage girls would be recruited to cults is if they were, say, insulted and belittled by both their peers and by adults for finding something compelling and deeply moving, driving them further into cultural and societal isolation and prompting defensive behavior that leads to them desperately needing validation, instead of having their tastes and emotional needs validated in the first place while still being told why they should take the relationships depicted in fiction with a grain of salt.
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At some point you can't hold an author responsible for people using their work for nefarious purposes though Varg Vikernes is a white supremacist murderer who read Lord of the Rings and decided the orcs were the good guys and the elves were evil Jews but that's not Tolkien's fault. Not to say you can't criticize the bad relationship stuff in Twilight (and some of it is pretty bad!) but you have to approach that as a genre-wide thing not just a unique fault of that book that only exists in a vacuum, and you can't pretend it's somehow unique in drawing cultists to it like Stephanie Meyer sat down and wrote Vampire Dianetics.
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Blockhouse posted:yeah aside from the baby stuff in the last book there's nothing really egregious about it especially in a post-fifty shades of grey world Darth Walrus posted:I guess you can argue that it’s better-designed to spawn those cults than most works, if you follow me. Like, any sufficiently popular work of fiction stands a chance of developing cults, but Twilight gave cult leaders an instruction manual. I’m prepared to defer to the folks with experience on this one.
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Feb 21, 2018 16:59
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society hates teenage girls to an almost genocidal level and im not about to say there isnt hosed up stuff in twlight but its telling that literally the entire mid-late 2000s internet was dedicated almost solely to tearing those books down at the exact same time that stuff like family guy or, to be relevant to this subforum, the familiar of zero was popular or rosario + vampire, which actually is literally anime twilight for boys.
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it's 2018 and ernest cline is a superstar author we need to let Twilight go as a society
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Blockhouse posted:it's 2018 and ernest cline is a superstar author twilight is so much less hosed up and bad than ready player one
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Endorph posted:twilight is so much less hosed up and bad than ready player one This
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Feb 21, 2018 17:11
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Literature died with Chaucer E: Caster Chaucer when
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Endorph posted:twilight is so much less hosed up and bad than ready player one I will take purple prose over anti-prose, the elemental opposite of prose, any day of the week
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Did ready player one have a wife apologize for being a victim of domestic abuse from her husband
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Freak Futanari posted:Taiga is the best girl in Fate and you should be glad that she's going to be spending the night. I would be completely willing to pay somewhere well into the triple digits to receive a version of fate that featured a Taiga route.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/justneckbeardthings/comments/6pfmim/this_incredible_poem_by_ready_player_one_author/ :thinking:
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Tae posted:Did ready player one have a wife apologize for being a victim of domestic abuse from her husband you absolutely cannot play this game when women in ernest cline novels only exist as prizes for knowing the most 80's minutiae like it's loving trivia night down at the pub
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Tae posted:Did ready player one have a wife apologize for being a victim of domestic abuse from her husband no but the guy wrote a giant rant about how women are whores, and also theres a scene where he condescendingly tells some japanese guys that 'uratoraman' is the greatest superhero of japan
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Endorph posted:no but the guy wrote a giant rant about how women are whores, and also theres a scene where he condescendingly tells some japanese guys that 'uratoraman' is the greatest superhero of japan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nnl0ycLvgU&t=30s
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taser rates posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/justneckbeardthings/comments/6pfmim/this_incredible_poem_by_ready_player_one_author/ Type-Moon Megathread: Second in Worst Writing and Most Heinous Misogyny
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Feb 21, 2018 18:26
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Let's use f/sn to form a cult where we all dress up as Archer
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Tae posted:Did ready player one have a wife apologize for being a victim of domestic abuse from her husband Women in Ernest cline books do not have the agency required to apologize for anything.
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GodFish posted:You... you are getting the Taiga Dojo's, right? Maybe I should be. I'm just doing a walkthrough to gun through this thing because I don't really have any instincts for VNs. I'm really interested in the stories and most of the characters. I'm aggravated by protracted meal scenes that just showcase how zany Taiga is. But then, I get that's the cost of participating in a contemplative anime story.
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Feb 21, 2018 19:09
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Fate like most anime could benefit from an editor wielding a pair of hedge clippers and zero sense of mercy.
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Feb 21, 2018 19:11
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100 degrees Calcium posted:Maybe I should be. I'm just doing a walkthrough to gun through this thing because I don't really have any instincts for VNs. I'm really interested in the stories and most of the characters. I'm aggravated by protracted meal scenes that just showcase how zany Taiga is. But then, I get that's the cost of participating in a contemplative anime story. Terrible Opinions posted:Fate like most anime could benefit from an editor wielding a pair of hedge clippers and zero sense of mercy.
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