[Mafia] Final Fantasy 7

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votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 7

Not Voting (9): Anomalous Amalgam, Asiina, Bifauxnen, IllegallySober, Juchero, Mithross, Natural 20, Truth Quark, Your Personal Muse

With 9 alive, it's 5 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 22^nd, 2018 at 11:30 p.m. EST -- that's in about 2 days, 3 hours.

The mini game today will be a card game.

Everyone will receive two cards from a standard 52 card deck. One card will be visible, while one is private. You may trade your visible card with anyone else in the thread, by using the action ##trade. Both parties must agree to the trade in order for it to take place. Once the day ends, the cards held will be locked into place. Whomever gets closest to 22 without going over will win. Jacks are 11, Queen 12, King 13, Aces 1 or 14. In the event of a tie, a tiebreaker will be done privately by the mod

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:38

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 22:16

Bifauxnen: Aug 12, 2010; Curses! Foiled again!

omfg I was actually loving right to try and ignore the cop result cause he WAS a loving godfather omfg I can't believe it bahahahahaha

see I KNEW that "my tone is off" stuff was bullshit Gaspy bahahaha

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:38

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

I was right, the black materia was bad news!

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:41

Asiina: Apr 26, 2011; No going back; Grimey Drawer

lol "what is black materia all about?" :sun:

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:41

Bifauxnen: Aug 12, 2010; Curses! Foiled again!

Mithross posted:

I was right, the black materia was bad news!

well, not nearly as bad news as I feared if all it did was turn a scum into a different scum

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:42

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Bifauxnen posted:

well, not nearly as bad news as I feared if all it did was turn a scum into a different scum

Yea, I'm glad scum got it.

It looks flavor wise like he was killed by a Turk. I was watching someone last night, who had another visitor. If we work off the theory that scum teams are equal sized that clears two of us. If we think the Turks may be a larger team it does nothing.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:45

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Oh surprise surprise

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:46

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

So am I naive or was that dude a godfather?

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:47

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

CapitalistPig posted:

~~You are a Shinra aligned Godfather and win when Shinra controls the vote.~~

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:49

Natural 20: Sep 17, 2007; Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

At this point. I think the teams are evenly sized.

They both had a ninja.

They both had some method of blocking players, Jailer/Roleblocker.

So my assumption right now is that there's one more person left who's a Godfather. It's consistent with them being completely unconcerned by YPM's cop.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:50

Bifauxnen: Aug 12, 2010; Curses! Foiled again!

goddamn I'm feelin good today :sun:

oh also, GeneX I want to give you some very genuine thanks now after your flip for that "you two wondertwins better do some self-examination" posting you did. Cause every drat time someone posts like that just before they get hammered, I always hope like hell that they're really scum just doing that to gently caress with my head in the final moments as some final parting revenge, but that's never the case.This time you finally made my dream come true. I know this probably still sounds kind of gloating or sarcastic or something but seriously, it was such a wonderful relief to see your flip and I was so happy, thank you!

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:51

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

My advice would be to ignore any of my cops. I believe I�m either naive, which would be consistent with my character, or there are godfathers.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:53

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

I'd be hesitant to accept that both teams are mirrored under normal circumstances, but the fact that YPM is still alive lends some credence to that theory. In that case, the last scum is almost certainly hiding amongst the three remaining VT claims (Bif, Asiina, and IS).

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:53

Asiina: Apr 26, 2011; No going back; Grimey Drawer

It seems likely there's only 1 scum left, so if people still think I'm scum (and I don't blame them) then I think there's enough leeway for me to die for the cause.

I still would rather not though.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:54

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

Of the three, Bif would be the comedy option as she's been quite paranoid about godfathers in mason chat and the Gaspy/Bif godfather power team would be funny.

I am not sure how we can really distinguish between IS and Asiina though. IS at least has some content to read through.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 01:55

Bifauxnen: Aug 12, 2010; Curses! Foiled again!

oh man looking back now, no wonder Gaspy wouldn't listen to me about saving KB for later

# ? Feb 21, 2018 02:00

Asphyxious: Jun 25, 2012; I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 02:10

Asiina: Apr 26, 2011; No going back; Grimey Drawer

I'm more sad that your love for your boy Dio was all fake.

At least we know scum got them some fakeclaims.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 02:13

Bifauxnen: Aug 12, 2010; Curses! Foiled again!

omg can you just loving imagine if I got the black materia and it really was loving FF6 all over again

# ? Feb 21, 2018 02:31

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

Hello, IS

# ? Feb 21, 2018 02:42

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Sweet, another one down.

Your Personal Muse posted:

Hello, IS

Hi?

# ? Feb 21, 2018 03:22

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

IllegallySober posted:

Okay.

Speaking of YPM, I feel like he's been real quiet today.

Did you develop this thought any further?

# ? Feb 21, 2018 03:33

Juchero: Feb 15, 2008; Wedge Regret

hello folks just checkin in still don't have a third vig

i will say, barret is probably one of the best things about ff7

# ? Feb 21, 2018 03:36

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Your Personal Muse posted:

Did you develop this thought any further?

Not really, my focus was on others yesterday.

Was there a particular reason you were so quiet yesterday?

# ? Feb 21, 2018 03:42

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

TQ, did you add to your masonry last night?

# ? Feb 21, 2018 03:48

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Truth Quark posted:

Sooo... we've probably got one more Turk left then?

This would make sense, Elena is our non-flipped Turk.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 03:53

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

hi evrone i caught up

im ciobo

# ? Feb 21, 2018 08:46

Natural 20: Sep 17, 2007; Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Truth Quark posted:

Of the three, Bif would be the comedy option as she's been quite paranoid about godfathers in mason chat and the Gaspy/Bif godfather power team would be funny.

I am not sure how we can really distinguish between IS and Asiina though. IS at least has some content to read through.

Well what we do know is that scum have been entirely unwilling to touch Asiina all game.

If you think she's town as I do then she's a decent buffer to have. It's going to be tough for scum to manipulate her vote the way they want with so few players left in the game.

I'd want to read up on IS.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 09:41

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Natural 20 posted:

Well what we do know is that scum have been entirely unwilling to touch Asiina all game.

If you think she's town as I do then she's a decent buffer to have. It's going to be tough for scum to manipulate her vote the way they want with so few players left in the game.

I'd want to read up on IS.

I really am not sure what you're trying to say.

Scum have been unwilling to target asiina because either a)she's scum or b)she's an easy mislynch to push.

And if she isn't scum of course we should keep her around. But I'm not sure what you mean by her vote is hard to manipulate. Because she isn't playing much?

# ? Feb 21, 2018 10:14

Natural 20: Sep 17, 2007; Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Mithross posted:

I really am not sure what you're trying to say.

Scum have been unwilling to target asiina because either a)she's scum or b)she's an easy mislynch to push.

And if she isn't scum of course we should keep her around. But I'm not sure what you mean by her vote is hard to manipulate. Because she isn't playing much?

It's this: Asiina has basically said "I'm just going to vote with what the majority thinks because I'm exhausted with the game" or at least something to that effect. A larger scum team would find it easier to manipulate this since they can work together to sound like they're forming a consensus. But if what we suspect, which is that there is only a single member of the Turks left, is true, then owing to their proportionately smaller influence on the vote, it'll be harder to manipulate Asiina.

So yeah, imo since I've a town read on her, I don't want to get rid of her just for another round of thrilling night action mafia. This differs to my initial treatment where I felt she was dangerous because of the larger scum team remaining.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 12:29

Mithross: Apr 27, 2011; Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Natural 20 posted:

It's this: Asiina has basically said "I'm just going to vote with what the majority thinks because I'm exhausted with the game" or at least something to that effect. A larger scum team would find it easier to manipulate this since they can work together to sound like they're forming a consensus. But if what we suspect, which is that there is only a single member of the Turks left, is true, then owing to their proportionately smaller influence on the vote, it'll be harder to manipulate Asiina.

Ok, that's more clear, thank you.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 12:38

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

IllegallySober posted:

Not really, my focus was on others yesterday.

Was there a particular reason you were so quiet yesterday?

Sure, I was doing stuff on the weekend. But I could be doing stuff on the weekend as scum. Why did you bring that particular fact up?

# ? Feb 21, 2018 15:02

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

I�ll tell you where I�m at right now, IS. I have a very egocentric way of scumhunting. That�s because I know my alignment and relative quality of play.

Right now, I think I�m a problem for scum. Not because I�ve hunted particular well or anything, but because I�m very hard to kill. I�m a confirmed cop, or at least very close to it, so it�ll be very hard to lynch me. In addition, scum have about two or three people they have to nk before they kill me. Basically, scum have the inevitable conclusion that I will be in LYLO with them.

If I�m scum, that�s a big worry for me. Having a pretty close to confirmed town in LYLO is bad news. So, if I�m scum, I�m going to be trying to lay the ground work to at least let me be an option to lynch.

Like, say, innocently wondering where I was.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 16:42

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Your Personal Muse posted:

I�ll tell you where I�m at right now, IS. I have a very egocentric way of scumhunting. That�s because I know my alignment and relative quality of play.

Right now, I think I�m a problem for scum. Not because I�ve hunted particular well or anything, but because I�m very hard to kill. I�m a confirmed cop, or at least very close to it, so it�ll be very hard to lynch me. In addition, scum have about two or three people they have to nk before they kill me. Basically, scum have the inevitable conclusion that I will be in LYLO with them.

If I�m scum, that�s a big worry for me. Having a pretty close to confirmed town in LYLO is bad news. So, if I�m scum, I�m going to be trying to lay the ground work to at least let me be an option to lynch.

Like, say, innocently wondering where I was.

It was something I noticed in the moment, not something I pursued. You're the one who went out of your way to bring it back up today.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 17:03

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

That�s now two complaints you have lodged against me. How does that color your read of me?

# ? Feb 21, 2018 17:10

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

And I would also like to know if you disagree with my assessment in how scum would view me.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 17:16

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Your Personal Muse posted:

That�s now two complaints you have lodged against me. How does that color your read of me?

"Two complaints?"

I'm really not going out of my way to case you at the moment, dude. If you really want me to try, I can later today on my break.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 17:19

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Your Personal Muse posted:

And I would also like to know if you disagree with my assessment in how scum would view me.

Not entirely. Confirmed town at the end of the game would be troubling for scum, for sure. I don't see anyone currently trying to drive a dunk on you though (including me) so this is all coming across a little :tinfoil:

to me right now.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 17:22

CapitalistPig: Nov 3, 2005; A Winner is you!

A red star can be seen in the sky.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 17:26

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 22:16

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

That�s such an odd reaction. The confirmed cop asks you about a throw away line without even voting you, and you call him paranoid and said you�ll case him later. Very defensive.

# ? Feb 21, 2018 18:02

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