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Departed has better acting, directing, cinematography, music, better everything. Infernal Affairs also has one of the worst DVD covers ever
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Thranguy posted:Story arcs are one thing, the kind of deep serialized mythology slowly doled out while trying to convey the impression that the creators know the answers to the questions they're raising is another. The original Twin Peaks is the first show I ever stopped watching because Lynch came out and said he had no plan for the show and was just making it up as he went along and throwing in any old crap if he thought it would look weird.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 06:50 |
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bamhand posted:I mean like in movies and TV shows. No one bats an eye. And honestly the actual police in the US have tazed people strapped to a chair to death. It was refreshing seeing police with some basic dignity. Chris Noth’s character in Law & Order got fired and sent to cop purgatory for punching a suspect. Suspect deserved it, he was gleeful as poo poo about getting away with a homophobic hate crime, but it had consequences.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 08:37 |
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Shia LaBeouf and Miles Teller look like they're pretty similar and I never figured out what Spielberg saw in the former. As dumb as this sounds, though, I saw an image of Spielberg from the late 60s or so and he looks a bit like both of them when he was younger.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 09:07 |
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BrigadierSensible posted:Given all The Departed talk recently. I watched Infernal Affairs about 10 years before I watched The Departed. I didn't know it was a remake and I got the weirdest sense of deja vu. spog has a new favorite as of 09:31 on Feb 21, 2018 |
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BrigadierSensible posted:Given all The Departed talk recently. Scorsese didn't just stop there, the bastard went on to shamelessly credit the writers of Infernal Affairs in his movie that was co-produced with the company that made the original.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 09:46 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:The original Twin Peaks is the first show I ever stopped watching because Lynch came out and said he had no plan for the show and was just making it up as he went along and throwing in any old crap if he thought it would look weird. Gravity Falls somehow manages to have a tighter plot and resolution. (and that's when they ended it early to avoid burnout)
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 09:59 |
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Jedit posted:Scorsese didn't just stop there, the bastard went on to shamelessly credit the writers of Infernal Affairs in his movie that was co-produced with the company that made the original. Have you ever seen any research papers? The loving scientists brag about where they stole the idea from, and even list the places separately at the end of the paper. Disgusting assholes.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 10:37 |
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Inescapable Duck posted:It's like British television, all the good shows know when to stop. Solice Kirsk posted:Soap operas do that too. I remember back in like 1999 I broke my hand and couldn't work for almost a month (I was a baker). During that time I started watching the soap opera Passions, and, from what I remember through the percocet haze, there was a solid two weeks they focused on if these two people were going to kiss, all while cars were blowing up and days and weeks were passing outside. I was super confused. Also there was a doll that was a little kid, but everyone just pretended it was a doll. bamhand posted:I was watching Stan Lee's Lucky Man and the main character is a cop that punches a suspect during interrogation. In the US you probably wouldn't think twice about that scene but since the show is British they made a huge deal about it and his colleagues were warning him that the entire case could be thrown out. bamhand posted:They also had some kind of weird recusal thing where a cop said he couldn't investigate a case because he knows the suspect? Is that a thing in the UK? He said because they both attended the same Gambler's Anonymous meeting he can't investigate her. Wheat Loaf posted:X-Files did it first but I feel like Lost was a bigger culprit because, whereas X-Files had its monster of the week episodes, just about every episode of Lost came off as though it was ostensibly supposed to contribute to the overarching storyline. Arivia posted:Chris Noth’s character in Law & Order got fired and sent to cop purgatory for punching a suspect. Suspect deserved it, he was gleeful as poo poo about getting away with a homophobic hate crime, but it had consequences.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Shia LaBeouf and Miles Teller look like they're pretty similar and I never figured out what Spielberg saw in the former. As dumb as this sounds, though, I saw an image of Spielberg from the late 60s or so and he looks a bit like both of them when he was younger. Shia LeBeouf hit his peak at the same time all the other former child actors were showing their genitals and getting arrested. People legitimately thought Shia was 'normal' and tried to position him as the next big thing. Had the last Indiana Jones movie done better and maybe his weirdness not come out so quickly, he would have been headlining two different billion dollar franchises (Indiana Jones and Transformers). Hollywood always feels like it desperately needs someone who can singlehandedly carry a movie and there was a shortage of young male leads so all those hopes and dreams fell squarely on a guy whose last name is pronounced Beef and who had some odd mother issues. Thank goodness the Hemsworth family appeared when they did.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Shia LaBeouf and Miles Teller look like they're pretty similar and I never figured out what Spielberg saw in the former. As dumb as this sounds, though, I saw an image of Spielberg from the late 60s or so and he looks a bit like both of them when he was younger. International Jewish Cabal at work I've only seen three films with Shia LaBeouf, and none with Teller, so I don't know what kind of range either are capable of. Spielberg has been directing films now for 50 years (longer if you count his earliest works) so one would think he's gotten some practice spotting budding talent. Although the physical resemblance angle wouldn't surprise me at all, the industry is full of vanity.
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Tiggum posted:Meanwhile on SVU, Stabler spent years threatening, harassing and assaulting suspects and never got more than a verbal warning about it. One bit that stuck out to me as especially is when they go to question a rapper called "Gots Money" and Stabler takes out dice and says, "I'm gonna roll these dice, which is what your cellmate is gonna do to decide how many times he's gonna rape you!" <rolls dice> "Oh, look, I 'gots' an 11!"
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Wheat Loaf posted:One bit that stuck out to me as especially is when they go to question a rapper called "Gots Money" and Stabler takes out dice and says, "I'm gonna roll these dice, which is what your cellmate is gonna do to decide how many times he's gonna rape you!" <rolls dice> "Oh, look, I 'gots' an 11!" SVU's position on prison rape is so flip floppy. One episode you see that kind of scene play out, and then there are others where there's this huge outcry about it from the cops. Like, make up your mind, Dick Wolf.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 16:16 |
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Tiggum posted:Wow. Apparently this show is just 100% completely different to what I had assumed it was. I saw the name and, without even thinking about it or doing any further research, decided it must be a reality TV show or documentary either about or hosted by Stan Lee. It's about a cop that receives a "lucky" bracelet that makes him insanely lucky but at a price. So a crime drama/procedural with some super natural elements. It's alright, apparently it's the most popular drama on Sky 1. In the US (media) everything is always about a personal vendetta/revenge fantasy.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 16:36 |
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Choco1980 posted:SVU's position on prison rape is so flip floppy. One episode you see that kind of scene play out, and then there are others where there's this huge outcry about it from the cops. Like, make up your mind, Dick Wolf. "Dick Wolf" is a pretty good euphemism for a prison rapist, if you think about it.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 16:37 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:One bit that stuck out to me as especially is when they go to question a rapper called "Gots Money" and Stabler takes out dice and says, "I'm gonna roll these dice, which is what your cellmate is gonna do to decide how many times he's gonna rape you!" <rolls dice> "Oh, look, I 'gots' an 11!" After Meloni left the show and Stabler was written out as being fired, there was some mention of a lot of his cases being thrown out because of his methods.
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As SVU went on he became more and more unstabler
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Ugly In The Morning posted:After Meloni left the show and Stabler was written out as being fired, there was some mention of a lot of his cases being thrown out because of his methods. That just makes everyone else seem worse.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 17:17 |
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Gaunab posted:That just makes everyone else seem worse. From a writing perspective that means they can totally rehash old episodes with continuity.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 17:21 |
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re: The Departed: does it get unduly criticised because it's what finally won Scorcese his Oscars but it wasn't the best one he'd done to that point that had been nominated and lost?
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Wheat Loaf posted:One bit that stuck out to me as especially is when they go to question a rapper called "Gots Money" and Stabler takes out dice and says, "I'm gonna roll these dice, which is what your cellmate is gonna do to decide how many times he's gonna rape you!" <rolls dice> "Oh, look, I 'gots' an 11!"
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 19:05 |
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As many episodes of it as I've seen, my image of SVU will forever be that one Cracked parody dub from years ago where Stabler goes into Special Guest Star Michael Emerson's apartment (caption: "APARTMENT OF THE MONORAIL RAPIST") and immediately demands, "SO HOW'D IT FEEL RAPIN' ALL THEM WIMMIN ON DA MONNAHRAIL?" to which Emerson replies, "It felt very good -- I mean, what's a monorail?"
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 19:31 |
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oldpainless posted:As SVU went on he became more and more unstabler Goddammit
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 20:22 |
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Don’t forget Chris Meloni made his mark as an actual prison rapist on Oz.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 20:35 |
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Despite being 20 years older he's still in really good shape. He got naked a couple of times on Happy! and he was pretty buff.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 20:42 |
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JediTalentAgent posted:Shia LaBeouf and Miles Teller look like they're pretty similar and I never figured out what Spielberg saw in the former. As dumb as this sounds, though, I saw an image of Spielberg from the late 60s or so and he looks a bit like both of them when he was younger. Huh.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 21:55 |
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sweeperbravo posted:Huh. Stephen Miller after hair club for men?
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 22:15 |
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I just watched an old ER where a patient wouldn’t stop using his phone in the hospital, and it caused someone’s pacemaker to cut out, then made electric wheelchairs start spinning in circles. Cellphones
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 22:20 |
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I like the joke near the end of The Heat when McCarthy is visiting Bullock in hospital and is on her cellphone, and when the orderly tries to tell her off this happens: "You know you're not supposed to..." *Pulls gun* "Yeah how about now?" "Jesus.. "*immediately about faces and walks away*
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 22:29 |
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sweeperbravo posted:Huh. Looks a bit like David Duchovny
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 23:51 |
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Benson plays the same tricks as Stabler did but on at least one episode it was declared a mistrial. She got the guy to confess by threatening to tell all the men what a sissy he was.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 01:32 |
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Are the SVU people supposed to be anti-heroes? Maybe they are attempting to subvert the standard network show procedural.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 01:37 |
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Mu Zeta posted:Are the SVU people supposed to be anti-heroes? Maybe they are attempting to subvert the standard network show procedural. no it's just badly written
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 01:43 |
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One of the best examples of the SVU detectives being bad at their jobs is when they spend an entire episode trying to entrap Robert Patrick; going so far as to buy a rape van for him.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 02:26 |
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There's also an episode where Benson chases a perp across a rooftop, they fall off and are hanging by their fingers and she's just going to let them fall until they reveal they're an undercover cop.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 02:47 |
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Brother Entropy posted:no it's just badly written It could be an implicit part of the show. Like if you work in a brutal sex crimes unit long enough that you become a monster and start cutting corners. It's like Hannibal.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 03:06 |
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sweeperbravo posted:Huh. There's a photo on a Variety article about Spielberg that I think looks a bit more like Teller/Shia: http://variety.com/2017/film/reviews/spielberg-review-new-york-film-festival-hbo-1202581852/
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 09:49 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:The original Twin Peaks is the first show I ever stopped watching because Lynch came out and said he had no plan for the show and was just making it up as he went along and throwing in any old crap if he thought it would look weird. But that method also gave us The Prisoner which is possibly the greatest TV show of all time. TV shows where the writers knew entirely what they were doing from beginning to end: ------------------
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 10:36 |
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BrigadierSensible posted:Don't watch The Departed. Watch Infernal Affairs, (80s or 90s Hong Kong movie) instead. It's the same film, Scorcese shamelessly stole everything from it. Literally everything. It's from 2002, not the 80s or 90s. Good movie. The prequel (Infernal Affairs 2) had a kind of interesting feature, it's set all across the 90s and jumps back and forth in nonlinear time; the main clue as to when a scene is set is the size of everyone's cell phones.
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Maxwell Lord posted:But that method also gave us The Prisoner which is possibly the greatest TV show of all time. Babylon 5. With outs in case any of the actors died or quit.
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