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ryonguy posted:Speaking of obsolete technology, broadcast, well, anything. Being stuck listening to a set program list or with music picked by a stranger is utterly alien to me at this point. I don't know. Sometimes over-the-air is repetitive, but sometimes you get a good station with a good DJ and you enjoy yourself. You get to hear tunes you haven't thought about in years, and tunes that's you'd never heard before. At home, I listen to iTunes or YouTube, on the road, I like the radio.
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The_Franz posted:
Some of the things about ATSC 3.0 that I see on some website remind me of something else I think was called "AirBox". I only heard of this after the services were apparently shut down, but I seem to recall hearing that it would allow typically pay cable/satellite broadcasts via an OTA signal, I'm assuming by using some sort of internet connection to validate you had 'permission' to decode an encrypted OTA signal or something at that time.
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mostlygray posted:I don't know. Sometimes over-the-air is repetitive, but sometimes you get a good station with a good DJ and you enjoy yourself. You get to hear tunes you haven't thought about in years, and tunes that's you'd never heard before.
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Feb 22, 2018 21:41
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My Lovely Horse posted:Yeah. The stranger may be better at picking music than I am. Or the algorithms; sure, Spotify has come up with some great stuff for me, but actual people tend to branch out more. I'll suffer through terrible DJs for a good variety of music. Best example is one of the college stations around here: the DJs are all students so obviously they're pretty amateurish, but they play basically any type of metal you can think of. I'm a big metalhead and I'm still being exposed to new bands through that station.
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Feb 22, 2018 21:58
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Now that classic rock stations play grunge, I'm pretty happy.
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Feb 22, 2018 22:11
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Randaconda posted:Now that classic rock stations play grunge, I'm pretty happy. I'm not, being an old sucks
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Feb 22, 2018 22:17
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A new station where I am is Gen-X Classic Rock. Their billboards are going the total Ok Cola route with stuff like, "this station probably sucks". It's kind of sad. Really, how much Toad the Wet Sprocket does someone really need?
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Krispy Wafer posted:A new station where I am is Gen-X Classic Rock. Their billboards are going the total Ok Cola route with stuff like, "this station probably sucks". Someone forgot that OK Soda was all about "everything is going to be OK"
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Feb 22, 2018 22:22
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Krispy Wafer posted:A new station where I am is Gen-X Classic Rock. Their billboards are going the total Ok Cola route with stuff like, "this station probably sucks". I like Toad the Wet Sprocket  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK7bwIVrQFs
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Feb 22, 2018 22:31
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I've recently been driving a car with only FM radio for entertainment and got a refresher as to why I hate it so much: the three local stations which play music I like (or at least tolerate) are all owned by the same corporate entity and have synchronized their commercial breaks. It's horribly frustrating. The fact that they're running commercials for shady car dealerships that prey on people with poor credit, shady lawyers, vape shops, and for-profit "educational" institutions... that's just extra sad. About 10 years ago, you at least had national brands advertising. There was a tiny shred of dignity, or at least an absence of total shame, in the crap being peddled. Randaconda posted:Now that classic rock stations play grunge, I'm pretty happy. 
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Feb 22, 2018 22:46
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JediTalentAgent posted:Some of the things about ATSC 3.0 that I see on some website remind me of something else I think was called "AirBox". I only heard of this after the services were apparently shut down, but I seem to recall hearing that it would allow typically pay cable/satellite broadcasts via an OTA signal, I'm assuming by using some sort of internet connection to validate you had 'permission' to decode an encrypted OTA signal or something at that time. I think the internet capabilities of ATSC 3 are for things like extra audio channels and targeted advertising, mostly the latter. OTA pay TV has been tried many times and always failed since there's just no market for it. Cable and satellite killed it in the 80s and streaming will kill any attempt today. There are still a handful of people stuck on satellite internet or slow DSL these days, but they are in the minority and if you are that far from civilization then you probably can't get broadcast TV either.
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Hi I don't read this thread at all so I can probably assume someone in here already talked about it, but out of nowhere I just remember Microsoft Songsmith and how goddamn stupid it was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22AWPW5s4EA
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mostlygray posted:rant Sure, sounds great, as long as you only drive on roads that you personally own with no other traffic and where you can't run anyone over because your lovely manual brakes require human-scale time to react. If the rest of us have to put up with you, then lolno you need a car that is actually safe.
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Feb 23, 2018 00:41
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Olive! posted:Hi I don't read this thread at all so I can probably assume someone in here already talked about it, but out of nowhere I just remember Microsoft Songsmith and how goddamn stupid it was I was sort of mesmerized a long time by this piece of software and the mashups like the one you posted. Sometimes I think they could have pulled something cool with this tech if the actual instruments and resulting songs didn't sound like barely lukewarm poo poo. edit: This was my fave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg0l7f25bhU Last Chance has a new favorite as of 01:15 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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T.C. posted:You are not better at braking than ABS. Depends. I used to have a late-90s GM car where the ABS system was such a pile of over-aggressive poo poo that I rolled through an intersection and later had to the run the car into a curb because it wouldn't even let me try to stop. If there was any snow on the ground as soon as you applied the slightest pressure to the brakes the system just went "NOPE, NO TRACTION GOTTA PULSE FOREVER" and made a lot of noise while basically disabling the brakes. When it came to that car, disconnecting the ABS in the winter was actually safer because the driver actually did know better than that horrid system. ABS on almost every other car that I've driven has been great and could probably stop a car on an ice rink, but GM's ABS system through the mid-00s at least was horrible, as I can find plenty of stories like mine with just a bit of googling. The_Franz has a new favorite as of 01:35 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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Trabant posted:I've recently been driving a car with only FM radio for entertainment and got a refresher as to why I hate it so much: the three local stations which play music I like (or at least tolerate) are all owned by the same corporate entity and have synchronized their commercial breaks. It's horribly frustrating. I installed a dash cam in my car and used an apparently really badly shielded 12v to 5v power converter. Whenever it is on it completely swamps out all FM radio reception. I have an in-car ad blocker! It has been like this for a year, and I too don't miss FM at all. Just about every station around here is owned by ClearChannel/IHeartMedia or whatever they call themselves these days. Morning and Evening commute time radio consists of nothing but 30+ minute long commercial blocks. Its either streaming music on my phone or sat radio these days.
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The AM station I listen to when I'm out of podcasts still plays the national anthem at 8am sharp 
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blugu64 posted:The AM station I listen to when I'm out of podcasts still plays the national anthem at 8am sharp The CBC, Canada's national state-backed broadcaster, does this time synching thing every day at like 1pm on their radio stations and it always makes me happy to hear even though it's just some beeping so you know 1pm starts exactly NOW. It's nice to know there are some reliable functioning things in the world, even if it's just the clocks.
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Feb 23, 2018 02:48
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stevewm posted:Just about every station around here is owned by ClearChannel/IHeartMedia or whatever they call themselves these days. Morning and Evening commute time radio consists of nothing but 30+ minute long commercial blocks. That's the reason my car radio spends about 90% of its time tuned to the local NPR affiliate. I get the BBC News on the way home from work every day.
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I miss Tom Ashbrook's voice. I'm really bummed he turned out to be a sexpervert or whatever.
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Randaconda posted:I like Toad the Wet Sprocket I knew their original lead singer when they were still a garage/party band.
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I miss FM when they used to have actual DJs instead of some dude playing the exact same 100 songs over and over and slinging on whatever prepburger bits ClearChannel or Cumulus sent him. Dig the effort our legendary area AOR station WQDR put into their New Years 1984 countdown. The idea of splicing this together using analogue tape is nutso. In regards to AM, also from my archives is the sort of terrible trainwreck AM radio we had locally. All that's missing is ladders collapsing backstage.
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The_Franz posted:Depends. I used to have a late-90s GM car where the ABS system was such a pile of over-aggressive poo poo that I rolled through an intersection and later had to the run the car into a curb because it wouldn't even let me try to stop. If there was any snow on the ground as soon as you applied the slightest pressure to the brakes the system just went "NOPE, NO TRACTION GOTTA PULSE FOREVER" and made a lot of noise while basically disabling the brakes. When it came to that car, disconnecting the ABS in the winter was actually safer because the driver actually did know better than that horrid system. I had an '04 Pontiac GTP and I'll back you up on that. The ABS did it's job just fine during a panic stop on dry or even wet roads but in the snow it was an abomination. I'd barely touch the pedal and the ABS would kick on. Next thing I'd be standing on the fuckin pedal while the car merrily slid right through an intersection. It would have been better if all four wheels locked up. I only realized how lovely it was when one of the sensors poo poo the bed and the system shut off. That was actually another lovely GM engineering gently caress up. The ABS/ traction senors were built into the wheel bearing assembly. So grit and salt would foul up the sensor and disable the system. Since it was built into the bearing you have to replace the entire wheel bearing rather than just a small sensor or wiring harness. I replaced all four perfectly good wheel bearings on that car. When it poo poo the bed again I said gently caress it and learned to ignore the immense amber "SAY GOODBYE TO ANOTHER $200 gently caress FACE" light on the dash.
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It's weird living in LA because even the stupidest, shittiest commercials and the worst radio stations tend to have really high production values. The only channel where you really got to see proper amateur-hour poo poo was the public access channel, and even then most shows tended to have one competent guy to keep things kinda on the rails. Let's ignore the jamie kennedy's new year thing ok???
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I remember a few big track day crash videos of CTS-Vs where the ABS went into ice mode like you guys are describing and the cars would go sailing into the gravel at 100+mph. It's definitely a GM thing.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:The only channel where you really got to see proper amateur-hour poo poo was the public access channel, and even then most shows tended to have one competent guy to keep things kinda on the rails. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkpHMLrFax0
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Peeny Cheez posted:Nothing ever topped this: it's bad luck just seeing a thing like that
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Olive! posted:Hi I don't read this thread at all so I can probably assume someone in here already talked about it, but out of nowhere I just remember Microsoft Songsmith and how goddamn stupid it was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci1K9Zcwvy4
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:I miss FM when they used to have actual DJs instead of some dude playing the exact same 100 songs over and over and slinging on whatever prepburger bits ClearChannel or Cumulus sent him. Dig the effort our legendary area AOR station WQDR put into their New Years 1984 countdown. The idea of splicing this together using analogue tape is nutso. KDSK in Albuquerque is kind of... charmingly amateurish. They have a big music library from the early 50s through the 80s, mostly focusing on the 50s and early 60s, and they play plenty of music I've never heard before. The jockeys are old-time DJs who've been doing it for decades; some are better than others, although the morning guy is definitely an rear end. The weirdest/worst thing is that they let some loving real estate agent do a show for a couple hours on Sunday afternoons and of course he wants to you call him personal cell for requests so he can start trying to sell you real estate afterward, and he makes his pitch before and after every commercial break. Still, if it keeps an independent station with interesting music on the air, I won't bitch too much.
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Fo3 posted:I think the point was analogue TV is dead. So all these old receivers like CRT, portables, car, or in the example watches are useless. Anything pre 2006 ish? in australia is useless. There's still transmitted digital TV free to air here, but all the older stuff doesn't work without a "set top box" mains/ household antenna receiver. Not much chop for your car/boat/caravan/watch, and it's getting increasingly hard to find good ones even for household use, like if your old LCD inbuilt digital tuner died or you want reception for your old monitor or crt - answer these days is buy some new lovely cheap china lcd tv if you want terrestrial broadcast digital tv because it's hard/impossible to get something to work on things without an inbuilt digital receiver and a huge household antenna for the reasons you mentioned. I dunno man, 'Strong' boxes are fantastic, and I use a cheapish portable antenna from Jaycar mounted internally on a picture frame hook inside my house - works brilliant. As for broadcast radio in the car I have officially become one of the 'olds'. Radio National which is just news, interviews with politicians and some interesting long form journalistic stories. It still get me mad though cos politicians, but better than commercial radio where the only stations we have are owned by the same company. I personally know the advertising manager for them and he apologises everytime we meet that 90% of the stuff is beamed in, and the only LOCAL stuff is the idiots laughing at poo poo they found on fark the night before. Humphreys has a new favorite as of 10:02 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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I'm lucky to live in an area with a lot of college and listener-supported stations, which means I can listen to mostly decent stuff without having to hear goddamned 1-877-KARS-4-KIDS every ten minutes.
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ladron posted:it's bad luck just seeing a thing like that
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Humphreys posted:found on fark surprised this is still around
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ladron posted:surprised this is still around "Duke sucks" etc.
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The 'classic rock' era has to extend to 1980 simply to include "Back in Black".
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At some point terrestrial radio is going to be unprofitable for IHEARTMUSIC and the other big corporations. But radio broadcasting can be done cheaply, so we'll see a revival of small independent stations who don't need a big audience to keep the lights on. And then the FCC will auction off all those radio frequencies for wireless data coverage and that will be the end of that.
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Fark. Holy poo poo. Just tried my login, "ManBearPig." Still works.
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As a non-american, I use Fark and whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday to get a decent aggregation of stuff that happens in US politics.
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The_Franz posted:Depends. I used to have a late-90s GM car where the ABS system was such a pile of over-aggressive poo poo that I rolled through an intersection and later had to the run the car into a curb because it wouldn't even let me try to stop. If there was any snow on the ground as soon as you applied the slightest pressure to the brakes the system just went "NOPE, NO TRACTION GOTTA PULSE FOREVER" and made a lot of noise while basically disabling the brakes. When it came to that car, disconnecting the ABS in the winter was actually safer because the driver actually did know better than that horrid system. Opel is GM and their ABS was always fine. e: American cars are, of course, very much a thing for this thread. Are any of them even sold in Europe anymore? Arivia posted:The CBC, Canada's national state-backed broadcaster, does this time synching thing every day at like 1pm on their radio stations and it always makes me happy to hear even though it's just some beeping so you know 1pm starts exactly NOW. It's nice to know there are some reliable functioning things in the world, even if it's just the clocks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xPdgSMXNh8 3D Megadoodoo has a new favorite as of 15:15 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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