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Dick Bastardly posted:I believe this 100%. I myself picked up a backup role. Xad posted:I feel like backup cop and doc are usually the only two backup roles, so I thought it was odd that you might have just softclaimed backup doc Your assuming something very specific, and it feels like you want to know more about that information. Like whether I am or not a doctor.
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Dick Bastardly posted:You put a word in my mouth. I never specified which role I picked up. Okay good, don't say any more about it
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Feb 23, 2018 03:51
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Dick Bastardly posted:I think it's Xad. That last post read to me like role fishing. At 3 votes to execute please don’t fire votes out the gate like that.
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Feb 23, 2018 05:08
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Also what the hell is going on with the NKs. Do we have any scum left or is it just a SK at this point? If it’s an SK, I have a decent idea who it is.
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Feb 23, 2018 05:13
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Actually we have a bit to unpack from the night actions, there’s a couple of people I’d expect to see dead but instead we have a dead scum godfather. DB were you successful in your night action?
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Feb 23, 2018 05:20
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Asphyxious posted:Also what the hell is going on with the NKs. Godfather+Janitor, Roleblocker, Poisoner, Ninja. For a 16-person game I feel like that has to be all of the scum and we just have SK left. I was actually only assuming 3+SK personally with this setup, so I was really surprised to see AA's flip.
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Feb 23, 2018 10:34
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That meant with 8 left alive last game day we had 2 scum + SK and 5 town. Two night actions, assuming they both hit town, would've been 3 town vs 2 scum + SK, kinda dodged a serious bullet there.
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Feb 23, 2018 10:36
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Anyway I also have my suspicions on who's the SK, but I also want to hear something from DB given a claimed backup role, and I also want to hear what Gaspy has to say.
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Feb 23, 2018 10:37
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Also, quick number crunching, since it's worth pointing out: Assuming we only have SK left (a good assumption at this point) - we can mislunch a townie today and, assuming SK kills again during the night, that would force lylo.
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Feb 23, 2018 10:40
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Sorry for not posting yesterday, but the day was over before I could look at the thread. I would have corroborated Asphyxious and DB's claim, because I too received a backup role. Specifically, I'm the backup Tracker, and I followed Xad tonight, and he went to visit AA. Now, since the town roleblocking role in this game is Jailer, which from my understanding also protects the target, this can only mean that Xad is the SK and that the doctor protected whoever was the scum NK target. ##Vote Xad
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Feb 23, 2018 11:12
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That’s a lot of presumption. Also wtf is with people rushing the vote in this predicament.
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Feb 23, 2018 11:24
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I’m fairly certain there’s 1 scum left + the sk
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Feb 23, 2018 11:25
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So unvote, incredibly dodgy dudes.
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Feb 23, 2018 11:25
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Asphyxious posted:That’s a lot of presumption. Also wtf is with people rushing the vote in this predicament. Well, from my end it's deduction from facts. I tracked Xad, he visits AA, AA is dead and was scum. This means he's not the target for the scum NK, so it means that he was the SK kill and that the scum NK failed for whatever reason. Now, this doesn't strictly mean that Xad is the SK, but it sure looks like it's the more probable outcome, since of four (well, three, since I'm the tracker) revealed town PR that could've been given as backup Cop is the only one that can visit the person who was NKed without preventing the actual NK, but you already claimed that, went uncontested and nabbed scum, so unless you are scum who got incredibly lucky with pretending they got a backup role without confirmation of such a thing being possible, I'm inclined to take the easiest route and think Xad is the SK. And the same easiest route leads me to believe that the doctor succesfully blocked the scum NK. But in the interest of not being overly antagonistic, ##unvote.
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Feb 23, 2018 11:46
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And why do you assume there’s no more scum.
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Feb 23, 2018 12:04
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Asphyxious posted:And why do you assume there’s no more scum. I never said there's no more scum. But I think if there are any left, there can't be more than one, because for it to be 2 surviving scum would mean that we started the game with 7 anti-town players (6 scum and a SK) on a total of 16 with two possible NKs per night, and that sounds... excessive. Getting back to the point, in this situation getting the last scum or getting the SK is functionally the same thing, they are both isolated anti-town players with a NK. And since I have information about Xad, I'll make sure he's the lunch today.
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Feb 23, 2018 12:18
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LupusAter posted:I never said there's no more scum. But I think if there are any left, there can't be more than one, because for it to be 2 surviving scum would mean that we started the game with 7 anti-town players (6 scum and a SK) on a total of 16 with two possible NKs per night, and that sounds... excessive. Getting back to the point, in this situation getting the last scum or getting the SK is functionally the same thing, they are both isolated anti-town players with a NK. And since I have information about Xad, I'll make sure he's the lunch today. Oh yeah that was Monathin. As you were.
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Feb 23, 2018 12:30
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I don't think there's any more scum because five scum + SK in a setup of 16 seems wildly, hilariously unbalanced and while it is far too early in the morning to do math on my end and I haven't slept I feel like that means we've dodged lylo like 2-3 times at this point.
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Feb 23, 2018 13:10
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Like at some point I have to make setup deductions and figure there's probably not any scum remaining on the board because, based on the sheer number of people playing this game, having that many scum seems literally impossible, even with having multiple PRs that can lock down what happened to people. That being said, claiming Tracker seems weird given MMT was also tracker. What gives, Lupus?
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Feb 23, 2018 13:12
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Monathin posted:Like at some point I have to make setup deductions and figure there's probably not any scum remaining on the board because, based on the sheer number of people playing this game, having that many scum seems literally impossible, even with having multiple PRs that can lock down what happened to people. mafia edit: MADMAN, not Murmur, goddammit. That's twice now.
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Feb 23, 2018 13:13
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Monathin posted:Like at some point I have to make setup deductions and figure there's probably not any scum remaining on the board because, based on the sheer number of people playing this game, having that many scum seems literally impossible, even with having multiple PRs that can lock down what happened to people. I'm the backup tracker, I said it when I first claimed. Didn't know it until night 3, after the tracker was killed. I assume that the other claimed backups were in the same situation.
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Feb 23, 2018 13:34
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LupusAter posted:I'm the backup tracker, I said it when I first claimed. Didn't know it until night 3, after the tracker was killed. I assume that the other claimed backups were in the same situation. Man I got SHAFTED this game with luck of the draw this game then, hahaha. Anyway I'm willing to believe that claim and since I feel fairly certain there's no scum left, and Xad had always been in my periphery suspicions, I believe we should get rid of Xad. I will not throw my vote out until I've gotten some sleep because friends don't let friends vote while sleep deprived, but consider me believing your claim.
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Feb 23, 2018 13:40
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I’m still waiting to hear from DB.
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Feb 23, 2018 13:43
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But I’m pretty sure there’s another scum, for reasons I’ll reveal later (it’s very late here) but for it to be Xad the godfather would have to have been bussing his last scum buddy super hard.
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Feb 23, 2018 13:52
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Ah. But if Xad is the SK, then that hard focus from AA would explain killing him, no? Or is that what we’re meant to think?
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Monathin posted:Man I got SHAFTED this game with luck of the draw this game then, hahaha. Monathin posted:Man I got SHAFTED this game with luck of the draw this game then, hahaha. Monathin posted:Man I got SHAFTED this game with luck of the draw this game then, hahaha. Monathin posted:Man I got SHAFTED this game with luck of the draw this game then, hahaha. This is not a man who is happy that there are multiple town power roles in play.
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Feb 23, 2018 14:31
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I’ll buy Xad as the SK, but I’m pretty sure Monathin is the last scum.
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Feb 23, 2018 14:32
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Asphyxious posted:Actually we have a bit to unpack from the night actions, there’s a couple of people I’d expect to see dead but instead we have a dead scum godfather. Yes. I made sure the doc didn't get touched, and well... there you are.
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Feb 23, 2018 14:39
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Dick Bastardly posted:Yes. I made sure the doc didn't get touched, and well... there you are. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. This doesn’t make any sense. I think we’re at full claim o’clock.
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Feb 23, 2018 14:43
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Asphyxious posted:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Your action last night, did it fail?
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Feb 23, 2018 14:48
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Dick Bastardly posted:Your action last night, did it fail? Yes indeed it did.
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Feb 23, 2018 14:50
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well, there are two possibilities. (this is much more likely imo) 1. Gaspy is back-up doc and I Jailed him/her last night to thwart his/her doom. There might be a blocked scum NK, I think it likely. SK kill made it through. (possible, but not likely) 2. Gaspy is scum whom I blocked by Jailing. SK kill made it through. I think Xad is last scum that got blocked. Mona for SK.
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Feb 23, 2018 14:55
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Dick Bastardly posted:well, there are two possibilities. What the gently caress
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Feb 23, 2018 14:57
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I’M THE COP
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Feb 23, 2018 14:57
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Asphyxious posted:Yes indeed it did. This is mildly worrying. To be absolutely clear, you didn't target AA, right?
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Feb 23, 2018 14:58
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Welp, didn't see that post by DB. This changes things a bit.
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Feb 23, 2018 15:00
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Also doesn't line up with previous day, when DB defended Gaspy's cop claim. DB, I'll reiterate, what the gently caress?
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Feb 23, 2018 15:02
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This is why Bifauxnen wants to kill all of you fucks all the time. I’m trying to repeat YPM’s mantra of “bad town play isn’t scum play” but gently caress me dead.
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Feb 23, 2018 15:09
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Asphyxious posted:I’M THE COP That's what I meant. But Xad's questioning me about the doc role had that the forefront of my mind. Either way, you had claimed and I had a hunch you were the next nk target. I honestly didn't consider a back up doc would do the same, which is retarded in hind sight. So if Xad is doc, then it Mona or lup. Lup claimed tracker so it's probably Mona. ##vote mona Sorry xad and gaspy, I'm retarded 
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I’m going to bed now. I’ll be back in 7 hours, I want to see full claims and cases but I better not see any goddamn votes. Treat this like a lylo because if we whiff we’re looking at 2 NKs + 1 mislunched town.
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