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Just to give you a sense, here is the most upvoted comment on one of the many articles related to this. This is a very popular comment. This is how most people think. "They do get paid. They get free tuition. Free housing. Free board. What price do you suggest paying each player? Or does every player negotiate their own price? Take U of Wisconsin for instance. One year of tuition, room, board and books/fees averages about $22,000. So these players play 3-4 years, get a degree and no student loan debt. You want to pay them, fine. But the scholarships are rescinded, board and room rescinded and tuition rescinded. Good luck affording $22,000 per player. Not to mention any player that doesn't make the NBA is now sans college degree and likely spent a solid $17,000 in food and rent alone for a single year. But yeah, lets pay em." That's a big part of why this is such an uphill battle. NCAA claims there is a "tradition of amateurism", and people actually believe that crap. e: I have to believe that when he says "Good luck affording $22,000 per player", he actually means "good luck to each player in making up the $22,000 of scholarships I've rescinded", based on where he is in his half-baked argument. Because if he literally means "good luck in being able to afford a $22,000 player on a team that will bring in millions", then I have no words. MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Feb 24, 2018 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What i+s the biggest school remaining that didn't named in this investigation? georgetown about to make a comeback
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Rick posted:Is Michigan State still the whistleblower here? Because I can think of a thing or two the FBI should have been doing instead. I’m pretty sure they are. Turns out they’re that dude who “accidentally” caught a robber (while planning to assault someone).
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kiimo posted:Sean Miller wet shirt pics trending in tee minus ten  Shirt don't lie.
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Rick posted:Is Michigan State still the whistleblower here? Because I can think of a thing or two the FBI should have been doing instead. I’ve been saying since like 2010 on this very forum that MSU is dirty AF and was mocked a bit for it and now it is slowly coming out that it was an institutional haven for rape, sexual assault and paying people and I’m utterly content with the world around me Tom Izzo is human excrement lol!
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I was reading about this today, and was shocked that Book Richardson is facing up to 60 years in prison. Isn’t that a little much?
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:I was reading about this today, and was shocked that Book Richardson is facing up to 60 years in prison. Isn’t that a little much? Also yes, American prison sentences are crazy long.
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Feb 24, 2018 14:45
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RIP in peace, Arizona basketball.
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Overcharging is a common phenomenon. But no he's not going to serve that much on whatever plea he does.
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Yeah this is the dumbest part. People have no concept for the money involved in college sports. If you pay the players minimum wage (I would say they should get more than that but whatever) based on 40 hrs/52 weeks of the year (I'm sure some weeks they work way more, and obviously there are parts of the year where they aren't allowed to officially do anything, but just for simplicity) it's like $20k/year Even in football with 85 scholarships, that's only $1.7 million/year, there are assistant coaches making nearly that much now. In basketball it's obviously way less. The NCAA has like 1 billion in revenue a year on its own, without even taking into account the money coming in to the schools themselves. Now it's true, a lot of athletic departments run in the red, and the NCAA has huge expenses as well. But, so? Every business has to choose how to spend their money, I think I'd be willing to have coaches paid less, maybe a few less graphics on TV, the stadium beer costs $83 dollars instead of $81, and in exchange players get some money.
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an adult beverage posted:also lol at that sports agency keeping detailed ledgers of their criminal conspiracy. Stringer Bell is displeased
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an adult beverage posted:also lol at that sports agency keeping detailed ledgers of their criminal conspiracy. That rules. Accounting is important, even if what you're doing is completely illegal. I'm very proud of them.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:That rules. Accounting is important, even if what you're doing is completely illegal. I'm very proud of them. 
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I have a hot take. No really, it's a real scorcher. What if... we paid the athletes that the schools profit off of. A thousand dollars a month on top of their scholarships.
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an adult beverage posted:zona has a game tonight, is Miller with the team? Any word yet from the university? God I hope it's a road game E: holy poo poo it's at Oregon, that crowd is gonna be incredible Poque fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Feb 24, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/967444771580121089 "no, I really hosed up, this is truly a firable offense as listed in the contract"
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Sounds like the university drafted his pay with the intent of some of it going to recruits then
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Qwijib0 posted:https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/967444771580121089 The remainder of Arizona's season is going to be Springtime for Hitler.
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GobiasIndustries posted:How do you let something like that into a contract I was going to say "Same school that hired Herm" but that was Arizona State.
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N: TCU probably gonna go dancing for the first time since 1998. V: I was a student the last 2 years of the MW/ first 2 of the big 12. I think we won like 4 combined conference games during that. I don't know how far we'll get, but I'm just really happy right now. 
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GobiasIndustries posted:How do you let something like that into a contract
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iospace posted:I have a hot take. As far as paying players, professionalizing college athletics, that’s where you lose me. I'll go do something else, because there's enough entitlement in this world as it is. https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/4/13/11420408/dabo-swinney-clemson-salary-raise-players bitch you ain’t walking away from a $5mil a year job because players start making $1k/month
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Chieves posted:N: TCU probably gonna go dancing for the first time since 1998. TCU's been trending up for awhile, so congrats man.
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Qwijib0 posted:https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/967444771580121089 That's one hell of a contract
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Joey Freshwater posted:As far as paying players, professionalizing college athletics, that’s where you lose me. I'll go do something else, because there's enough entitlement in this world as it is. Never underestimate the lengths rich twats will go to be twats. There are people who will totally resign from six-figure jobs in protest over the cleaning staff getting a 50 cent an hour pay raise.
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Just saw on FOX halftime report that Miller isn't coaching tonight @ Oregon. He gone.
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I always knew Sean Miller wasn't going to win a championship at Arizona, but I didn't expect it to go down like this.
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Joey Freshwater posted:As far as paying players, professionalizing college athletics, that’s where you lose me. I'll go do something else, because there's enough entitlement in this world as it is. I've worked with college players. I've seen their schedules: pretty much every minute is accounted for between 6am and 11pm, and that's offseason too. I've seen how hard they have to work—especially those whose schools didn't prepare them for anything academic, because after all they're dumb jocks and that's all they'll ever be—just to maintain grades to stay eligible. And I know how even in pretty good schools they get shunted towards majors like kinesiology, even though they can't all become physical trainers or therapists. And I've seen furthermore—not at UVA, though it wouldn't surprise me—kids get their scholarships yanked almost the literal second they weren't athletic assets anymore. We probably come at things from very different frameworks, but I struggle to see how letting any of these kids earn a little money—even just for the use of their own images, held in escrow till they graduate or get cast aside—could possibly be described as "entitlement". (Also, the only exception I've ever seen to any of this is lacrosse kids. Goddamn do lacrosse kids suck.) edit: god I'm dumb and incapable of clicking links; leaving all this up as a reminder to myself to be less dense. elentar fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Feb 24, 2018 |
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Oregon basically needs the win tonight to make the tournament, so this already was a huge challenge for Arizona. Or does Arizona not count as a big win anymore if they drop a post season ban on themselves?
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elentar posted:I've worked with college players. I've seen their schedules: pretty much every minute is accounted for between 6am and 11pm, and that's offseason too. I've seen how hard they have to work—especially those whose schools didn't prepare them for anything academic, because after all they're dumb jocks and that's all they'll ever be—just to maintain grades to stay eligible. And I know how even in pretty good schools they get shunted towards majors like kinesiology, even though they can't all become physical trainers or therapists. And I've seen furthermore—not at UVA, though it wouldn't surprise me—kids get their scholarships yanked almost the literal second they weren't athletic assets anymore. Did you click the link
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Augh, sorry, getting too caught up in my poo poo and trying to keep up with things and lord knows I shouldn't be concern-posting under the circumstances. I'm gonna go grade some papers or something.
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I made a thread for this stuff: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3850210
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Rick posted:Greg Byrne just might not have been the genius everyone thought he was. dude fled to alabama too lmao
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