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I see no reason to change my vote. I'm shooting in the dark anyway.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 05:43 |
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merk posted:I love sex. You sure know how to have a good time, Merk. For what's it worth, you'd think a scum merk would at least try, so his lovely attitude probably works in his favor
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 05:50 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:Telling of what exactly? That it's a bad idea because it involves older players assuming they know how new players operate, while new players are telling them the opposite.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 06:25 |
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Oh by the way Tobbs, it may not be clear, but my vote on you is not a joke about us being on a team together or anything. It's a real vote.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 06:31 |
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Tolly Totes posted:Oh by the way Tobbs, it may not be clear, but my vote on you is not a joke about us being on a team together or anything. It's a real vote. Got a case to go along with that one if that's true?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 06:40 |
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Lando131 posted:Got a case to go along with that one if that's true? Not yet.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 06:42 |
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Tolly Totes posted:Not yet. Cool ##vote Tolly Totes
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 06:44 |
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Lando131 posted:Cool I'd ask you why but I think I know the answer
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 06:46 |
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If you end up having a reason for it later my vote will go away if it's reasonable, just like my vote on Lumpen.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 06:48 |
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To be clear I have a reason, just not a case yet. If that makes sense.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 06:49 |
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I understand, but it's a reason you're not willing to share and that prevents people from examining your motivation. When you decide to share it later my vote because it will disappear, but you leave it, never give a reason and Tobbs ends up lynched and flipping Town you can expect me to stay on your case. If you're town and being genuine you have nothing to worry about.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 06:56 |
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That's fair. Though I can't imagine Tobbs picking up 10 more votes without somebody campaigning it.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 07:07 |
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I notice Tobbs is a subject of much debate but has yet to make a vote of his own.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 07:40 |
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still catching up but:Tolly Totes posted:Hi Merk. i'm going to come out and say i read the samurai mafia and saw that was tollys first game as well, so i don't think that this is necessarily a scum tell. some of landos other posts feel awkward tho. also hi tolly i'm jealous of your scum game nice work : )
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 08:21 |
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merk posted:FWIW: If Samurai was Tolly's first game, bravo. also weren't you in this game?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 08:21 |
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lando making a lurker callout on a weekend seems like he's flailing but i'm not sold on the he's scum cause he knows tolly is new case. tolly you have my interest ##vote tobbs
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 08:38 |
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Atomic Soda posted:lando making a lurker callout on a weekend seems like he's flailing but i'm not sold on the he's scum cause he knows tolly is new case. Not to sound like a broken record, but do you have a reason or case to go along with that vote?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 09:25 |
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Lando131 posted:Not to sound like a broken record, but do you have a reason or case to go along with that vote? firstly i think that it was a stretch to call you scum based on your tolly post. i'm not sure what this unvote post is in response to, tobbs are you able to expand? Tobbs Gnawed posted:##unvote secondly i kinda want to see where tolly is going with this.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 10:04 |
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I'm just gonna ignore all those posts about it being someone's nth game and shoot from the hip, as it should be, because they are not good, posts
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 14:50 |
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Atomic Soda posted:also weren't you in this game? hm actually this is a very good post. was it common knowledge in that thread that it was tolly's first game?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:00 |
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Quidthulhu posted:This is a really weird white knight, and it's also kinda wrong; Tolly should have been able to come in and give an opinion on stuff that was happening. I agree mostly agree with quid here Lando131 posted:I'd ask if this is a joke but you seem as serious as a heart attack. Why should someone in their second game have 'actual opinions' a day 1 that's been slow as hell? This coming right after MMT starts questioning them too, now that I think about it. dgk calling people out for avoiding posting content when there had been approximately two content posts in the 20 or so hrs the game had been open, is bad. it's wild 'n dangerous to say new players shouldn't be expected to have opinions or that old players should, but also, tolly should readily have an opinion on matters tolly is involved w.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:21 |
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Tolly Totes posted:Oh by the way Tobbs, it may not be clear, but my vote on you is not a joke about us being on a team together or anything. It's a real vote. Well that's dumb because I'm very much town. Tolly Totes posted:To be clear I have a reason, just not a case yet. If that makes sense. Atomic Soda posted:lando making a lurker callout on a weekend seems like he's flailing but i'm not sold on the he's scum cause he knows tolly is new case. In case it's not blindingly obvious that this is a scummy push.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:26 |
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sentimental snail posted:I'm just gonna ignore all those posts about it being someone's nth game and shoot from the hip, as it should be, because they are not good, posts This is something I agree with. New to the game or community, it shouldn't be the deciding factor for alignment or how many grains of salt we should take. Tolly has experience beyond our community (revealed in Samurai scum chat) and L has played in this community in past so... Just shoot from the hip. An AA approved strat. Always. I don't think L recognizing she played in two games is indicative of OOT, just because this info is readily available in VF. VF comes with neat tools that shouldn't necessarily be uses to hunt scum like avg. Post count or number of games in or last posted, but yeah.... Just my 2 cents on this whole line of case work. Instead, I still like my vote on MMT because I haven't seen anything worse than that tag a long case. Looking into this Tobbs stuff.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:35 |
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anyone claiming a pr is not town. humans are the ones that need to get in to character. mystery solved!
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:37 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:This is something I agree with. New to the game or community, it shouldn't be the deciding factor for alignment or how many grains of salt we should take. You kind of have to look for it, it doesn't show up if you just go to votefinder to check the count for the game you're currently in.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:45 |
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hot take: MMT firing out of the gate is more like her town game. AA just having been scum with her (and me) should be able to see that difference. Gonna hold my vote though because he's got enough heat on him for now. I'm interested to hear what he thinks of Tolly's case on me, which is that she explicitly says there isn't one.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:51 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:You kind of have to look for it, it doesn't show up if you just go to votefinder to check the count for the game you're currently in. But just because you have to look for it doesn't mean that people wont. I found it in a few seconds a couple games ago. It's an improved feature and isn't that hard to come across from regular browsing on the site. It wasn't so handy when I last took break. I just don't think it's the slam dunk for OOT speak. I should say, I'm not trying to undermine your case on L, just that I don't think it will pan out based on this information alone. Will watch L.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:51 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:hot take: The other votes being flerp, my arch-nemesis, and AS, who added on "Yeah, sure Tolly, whatever."
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:52 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:hot take: I did replace in though And I try not to follow meta too closely. Usually for frustration behavior and authoritative versus contributing posting. Those are my biggest tells for most players. I just think it was a poor case that called out specific inconsistencies that didn't exist in my own posts.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:53 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I did replace in though And does bad casing from MMT immediately scream scum to you? Because I believe even in post-game discussion we talked about MMT's casing in Shine being pretty not-great. She was town, though, and I pushed her that whole game.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 15:58 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:And does bad casing from MMT immediately scream scum to you? In shine 2 she played similarly was scum and won that game. I think meta is useful but not great. And it's more that what she called me out on specifically. It's not that the case is Bad, it's that she says I did something I didn't do. Where dgk was weird suspicion, and Lumpen was just probing not even voting. Mmt came in with a weird case about me lying about trying to determine alignment from unvoting on what was definitely a d1 joke vote.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 16:10 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:In shine 2 she played similarly was scum and won that game. I'll take another look.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 16:19 |
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Murmur Twin posted:I think this is a scum post. It reads to me like he doesn't know whether to be Murmur Twin posted:(fixed grammar on second quote) Anomalous Amalgam posted:How is it lying? What Have I omitted or been dishonest about? Seems to me that you're intentionally fabricating something that didn't happen. Anomalous Amalgam posted:I did vote Lumpen though, and then unvoted when I realized he wasn't making a scummy quote vote. This is either a misunderstanding or a mischaracterization, AA. You're framing this as MMT saying you lied about something, like night actions for example. What she's saying though is that your stated intention to make an alignment call at this point in the game is false, or filler to give the illusion of participating/making calls. It sucks to have someone call you a liar, so I'm leaning towards this being a misunderstanding, but your focus on the "lying" aspect of MMT's case could be a way to wave it off without talking about it, which is scummy.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 16:32 |
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sentimental snail posted:hello I am confirming that I am angry sentimental snail posted:anyone claiming a pr is not town. humans are the ones that need to get in to character. mystery solved! lol, little girl.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 16:40 |
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Only I have talked about it. Even if it is a misunderstanding, some more feedback from mmt might make me change my opinion. However, I feel like she's retreated from the discussion. Weekend sure? But still.... I'll let it go for the time being, as I need to look at some other votes and contributions in this thread but I feel I've been forthcoming about answering why I voted for you initially, why I think mmt looks scummy from her case and have been participating in some other discussion as well, though not as closely since I'm self absorbed lol
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 16:42 |
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sentimental snail posted:hm actually this is a very good post. was it common knowledge in that thread that it was tolly's first game? i remember it but i also recall he wasn't hugely invested in that game (sorry merk). however this plus the pr makes me suss. Tobbs Gnawed posted:Well that's dumb because I'm very much town. wrong, but feel free to elaborate Tobbs Gnawed posted:hot take: why do you think tolly said what she said? Tobbs Gnawed posted:The other votes being flerp, my arch-nemesis, and AS, who added on "Yeah, sure Tolly, whatever." aww i though i said something about your case on lando as well also wondering if you could answer the question from my earlier post, genuinely don't know what you were responding to there :/ what are you keeping in mind?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 16:43 |
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I really don't like Retro Futurist so far on this fine little day 1, little friendly thread. Retro only has two posts about alignment. Here they are and why they are bad:Retro Futurist posted:I’m with KB on this one. AA seems fine to me and it looks like her pushing a bad case ##vote mmt Retro needlessly fronts a vote on MMT by putting KB on the hook as leading the push. This move looks like Retro is trying to lessen culpability Retro might have from MMT's flip which I have to assume is town for this point to have any relevance. Retro Futurist posted:You sure know how to have a good time, Merk. This is meaningless. You're clearly following along the thread, but this is the only new thing you have to say? ##vote Retro
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 16:44 |
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Atomic Soda posted:also weren't you in this game? I was! I didn't see it was Tolly's first game.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 16:45 |
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Atomic Soda posted:i remember it but i also recall he wasn't hugely invested in that game (sorry merk). however this plus the pr makes me suss. If Lando flips scum it's very likely someone who was very familiar with the Samurai game shared that it was Tolly's first game. Maybe I'm super paranoid, but knowing that this is her second game on the forums requires stalkery behavior or OOT communication.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 16:49 |
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Ok so maybe I’m missing something, but Tolly says they are voting Tobbs for a ~reason~ but won’t say why, and despite everything else going on AS just goes “sure” and jumps on to that vote?
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