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Tobbs Gnawed posted:So, what is it? Is it because you've been reading all the games recently? Did you just assume it was her second game? Did you check votefinder? I recognized Tolly as a new face when I read Wandering Samurai Mafia, and assumed this was her second game from that. I only checked votefinder to read my old game and see how long it had actually been; my other game was in 2011. Like I said, this isn't about votes, it's about the narrative. Let me just be perfectly blunt, what got me upset is this: Tobbs Gnawed posted:If Lando flips scum it's very likely someone who was very familiar with the Samurai game shared that it was Tolly's first game. No one told me anything about Tolly and I know this to be true, which means you effectively just called me a stalker and that is a personal attack that hits close to home. I think I'm just especially emotional today but I really don't appreciate that. It's beyond the scope of a fun game.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:07 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 00:55 |
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Tobbs, indirectly what you’ve stated is that you think there is a mafia team of Lando, Atomic Soda and myself. Is that a set of reads you stand by?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:16 |
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Also I guess I’ll spell this out: A lot of people are probably going to read the wiki and a few games before they play. It’s not weird that anybody would know stuff from the game immediately before this one.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:19 |
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Tolly Totes posted:Tobbs, indirectly what you’ve stated is that you think there is a mafia team of Lando, Atomic Soda and myself. Is that a set of reads you stand by? I said if Lando is scum, he's scum with someone who has seen our discord chats. That includes a number of players in this game, and is useful info. You're putting words in my mouth here. I've neither explicitly said nor implied AS is on a team with either of you. I think your reasonless vote "for reasons" is scummy, and AS buying it was scummy (though she backed off). As for Lando and you being on a team, that would require some bussing to be happening. I won't rule it out, but it's not something strong that needs pushing either.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:21 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Well that's dumb because I'm very much town. What is the interpretation of quoting me and then Atomic Soda voting you and then saying “this is a scummy push.” if you’re not saying that we are both mafia?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:25 |
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This tolly stuff is gotcha scum hunting, boys and girls.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:27 |
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If you’re saying Lando is with somebody who has seen our discord chats then you’re saying he’s scum with me, you, mmt or AA. You’ve said MMT is town and you’re clearly not saying it’s you, so the pointer is to me or AA right?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:28 |
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Tolly Totes posted:What is the interpretation of quoting me and then Atomic Soda voting you and then saying “this is a scummy push.” if you’re not saying that we are both mafia? Voting a player without any reason and calling it serious is scummy. Going along with it is also scummy. Am I voting either of you? No. But in the tapestry of making an alignment call on either of you, those are dark squares.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:29 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Voting a player without any reason and calling it serious is scummy. I was interpreting “push” as you saying we’re working together to vote you.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:30 |
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You don't have to be scum to look scummy. If that was the case town would never get mislynched. For even worse examples look at some of the terrible, terrible fake claims town players have made in the past. Disgustingly scummy, and yet they were town. The whole crux of the game and the problem is we don't know if a scummy play is made because someone is scum or because they're being stupid. AS vote was opportunistic and I'm inclined to agree that voting someone because you want to see someone else's vote on them is scummy as hell. In fact I did the exact opposite and voted you for it, Tolly, because you're the one who could actually produce said case. I think I'm starting to calm down now.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:32 |
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Tolly Totes posted:If you’re saying Lando is with somebody who has seen our discord chats then you’re saying he’s scum with me, you, mmt or AA. You’ve said MMT is town and you’re clearly not saying it’s you, so the pointer is to me or AA right? Nope. There were other players in that game with access to the dead doc/scum doc. It's not a huge list, but it includes more than just us. If Lando flips scum, that list is useful, because Lando's scum flip makes it very likely he was communicating OOT with someone on that list. If you're curious, the discord channels are still up. You can see who joined them.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:33 |
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Tolly Totes posted:I was interpreting “push” as you saying we’re working together to vote you. AS realized it was a bad push and backed off. Town players can certainly be scummy, but hopping on a train with a bad vote is a good way to get caught as scum. Your vote on me is bad. Flerp's is hopefully a joke (or he's scum and I get shot N1). Are you gonna continue to act like you have some result on me, or are you going to admit that your vote on me isn't backed up by anything meaningful?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 19:38 |
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I feel old, discord? Back in my day we used Google wave. I’m trying to catch up right now, but I’ve got a bit confusion about how we’ve been going around in circles
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:11 |
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Hi folks! I'm home from work and catching up now, and then I have some cases to make / stuff to share.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:18 |
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Back in my day we walked fifteen miles uphill both ways to get to the scum rendezvous chat on Google Buzz.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:27 |
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Lando131 posted:I checked on votefinder for that. If Tolly flips Scum now then you're in trouble, right or wrong, no matter what excuses you give. So if you're Town, demonstrate it by Scumhunting.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:28 |
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Dead Cow, what do you think of RF (now nicknamed Radio Flyer)?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:28 |
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Pal Lumpen, what say you of Radio Flyer?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:28 |
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I'm kind of cooling on AA, to be honest.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:30 |
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Lumpen posted:Pardon me for my impertinence, but this was literally all you needed to say, if it's true. All your other indignant posting has made you look worse, and if you're Town, please cut it out and talk about who's Scum rather than moaning about yourself. Congratulations you managed to conclude exactly opposite of what I'm saying, meanwhile I'm voting Tolly for a bad vote on Tobbs. Amazing deductive reasoning.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:30 |
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Hah that was supposed to be the first line of a much longer post and I accidentally hit "submit"
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:31 |
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merk posted:Pal Lumpen, what say you of Radio Flyer?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:33 |
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How long into day 1 can it go before we assume you’re scum for not posting a LumpenList, pal Lumpatron?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:35 |
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merk posted:How long into day 1 can it go before we assume you’re scum for not posting a LumpenList, pal Lumpatron? I'd currently put Lumpen, merk, MMT in Totally Town, DGK, Lando, Tobbs in Tentatively Trustable everyone else somewhere up or down here 50, Hal, RF in Somewhat Suspicious AA & Tolly in Supposably Scum
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:42 |
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But yeah, nothing about AA's reaction to my case seemed out of the ordinary to how I'd expect town to react. D1 case, etc. etc.King Burgundy posted:Don't think AA is scum. I'm seriously hoping that KB's lack of anything to say is the result of it being the weekend, and if he's town I would like to humbly request that he put effort into this game.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:46 |
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Lando131 posted:I'm annoyed that the argument is even being pressed, and even more annoyed that following Mafia games on SA is now somehow considered 'stalkery behavior'. What's more likely, that I'm stalking Tolly, or that I've been reading Mafia threads for entertainment. So yeah I'm cool with your explanation of how you know.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:48 |
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merk posted:How long into day 1 can it go before we assume you’re scum for not posting a LumpenList, pal Lumpatron? Could be scum still, his formatting was shite.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:49 |
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Um... is RF Opoponax?
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:50 |
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DGK2000 posted:Um... RF is Opoponax.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 20:51 |
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Hey deeg
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 21:03 |
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Murmur Twin posted:But yeah, nothing about AA's reaction to my case seemed out of the ordinary to how I'd expect town to react. D1 case, etc. etc. Eh, establishing a new meta. I've already said what I'm doing this game. Its likely I'll post more on Monday when sitting at a computer, but still won't be a ton.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 21:03 |
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Btw current gut reads have shifted to Quid and AS. ##vote Quid
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 21:04 |
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King Burgundy posted:Btw current gut reads have shifted to Quid and AS. Thanks for the help, bud!
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 21:06 |
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King Burgundy posted:Btw current gut reads have shifted to Quid and AS. merk posted:Thanks for the help, bud! Haha as much as I want to at KB's new meta, his last post actually makes me feel stronger about him.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 21:12 |
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Quidthulhu posted:Is Tully new? I'm losing track of who's played how many games. I actually am more suspicious of people who are hook line & sinker going "yep I agree with Tully" on a ~*~mystery case~*~ that, frankly, holds zero water for me even if he is dancing around night action results. This post feels extremely suspicious to me. How could Quid possibly have not picked up through reading the thread that this is Tolly's second game? Tobbs' whole case on Lando centers around that information and lots of people have talked about it. Quid is actually my strongest suspect at the moment. His posts don't seem sincere to me in a way that's kind of tough for me to verbalize. Like I see town Quidnose as more of a bulldog who actively looks for scummy stuff and then grills his suspects. Quid in this game is more kind of jumping around with reasonably "safe" opinions and seems to actively be attempting to not make waves. Quidthulhu posted:Sweet jesus there's been a lot going on. I just don't believe town Quid would ever say this. He'd case people and get some strong opinions. Normally, this is the part where I'd vote him and then we'd debate etc etc etc... but instead let's ##open fire at Quidnose
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 21:13 |
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Lol are you serious
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 21:27 |
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b-minus1 posted:Lol are you serious Yup! (not really sure what the etiquette is re: posting while we wait for DBD )
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 21:29 |
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To be clear I have no result or role related reason for my vote on Tobbs, it’s all in thread stuff and I’ll explain when I get home. For now ##unvote
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 21:34 |
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Votecount for Day 1 Anomalous Amalgam (3): DGK2000, Gridlocked, Murmur Twin, b-minus1, merk, Retro Futurist (3): Quidthulhu, merk, sentimental snail Quidthulhu (2): Dead Cow, King Burgundy Tolly Totes (2): Tobbs Gnawed, Lando131, Lumpen, Tobbs Gnawed (1): flerp, Anomalous Amalgam, Tolly Totes, King Burgundy (1): Lando131, DGK2000 (1): HiipFire Lando131 (1): merk, Murmur Twin (1): sentimental snail, merk (0): Tobbs Gnawed, Lumpen (0): Anomalous Amalgam, HiipFire (0): Dancer, sentimental snail (0): Tobbs Gnawed, b-minus1 (0): King Burgundy, Dancer (0): Dancer, Not Voting (7): 50 pounds of bread, Anomalous Amalgam, Atomic Soda, Hal Incandenza, Mr. F!, Tobbs Gnawed, Tolly Totes With 22 alive, it's 12 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 27th, 2018 at 6:30 p.m. EST -- that's in about 2 days, 2 hours.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 22:14 |
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Yeah, no talking after any day action of any sort. Posting result in a sec!
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