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Atomic Soda posted:##vote dead cows Hi hello yes, could you give your opinion on someone other than me? This is two days in a row that you've opened with voting me, your case on me is weak at best. You are starting to seem like scum who is taking an easy vote read. Atomic Soda posted:dead cows looks p bad imo, that post was super awkward. the juchero case looks good but i have a niggle that he often plays similarly? This post is scummy. If I'm "pretty bad" but NGO is scum, then why aren't you voting NGO at all. This looks like it has the potential to be a bus. Waffling on 50 and n20 sounds like you know that you'd end up voting one of them if it came down to it. Telling bif you think he's town sounds like you have knowledge of bif's alignment and are trying to persuade him to not look at you closely. I would vote you or NGO today, I have a stronger feeling about NGO.
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Dead Cow, what do you think of the suspects from Asiina's list? Do you agree with them, particularly her strongest read on Cat, and which ones do you find the most scummy? Who from her list would you vote for? Do you think Atomic and NGO are both scummier?
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Feb 25, 2018 22:59
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Bifauxnen posted:Dead Cow, what do you think of the suspects from Asiina's list? Do you agree with them, particularly her strongest read on Cat, and which ones do you find the most scummy? Who from her list would you vote for? Do you think Atomic and NGO are both scummier? The read seems good, and since we haven’t found any scum yet I could see almost everyone on her list to be suspected. I would vote Cat based on Asiina’s read, I also still have a nagging feeling about Sal, the same one I’ve had pretty much all game. I’m trying to make my own cases which is why I went ahead and did a look at Atomic instead of just saying, yup sounds good and voting for cat. Scummier? More like as scummy as.
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Feb 25, 2018 23:11
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Yes, I would like opinions on my cases. I'm still waiting on Sal to actually produce what he's said he's going to, a promise he's made several times now.
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Feb 25, 2018 23:59
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Asiina posted:Yes, I would like opinions on my cases. I'm actually just about to post one  I'm about 2 minutes from finishing it.
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Feb 26, 2018 00:06
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Dead Cow posted:The read seems good, and since we haven’t found any scum yet I could see almost everyone on her list to be suspected. I would vote Cat based on Asiina’s read, I also still have a nagging feeling about Sal, the same one I’ve had pretty much all game. I’m trying to make my own cases which is why I went ahead and did a look at Atomic instead of just saying, yup sounds good and voting for cat. Scummier? More like as scummy as. I'll be honest Dead Cow I'm officially over casing you. I seriously feel like casing you is turning into a town fight. There has been one person that I felt was flying under the radar, but then they posted this and it got me all a tizzy: The Ninth Layer posted:##vote Juchero I thought Tokes' case against Juchero was good and beyond that I think his fixation on 50 for three days now is scummy. For some reason this post just really set me off (as well as a few others). But lets look at TNLs post history shall we? Thread 1 - Uses ##Vote instead of ##nominate to "nominate" Kash for class President. This was a theme that happened a lot on Day 1. I think Scum could've potentially been trying to use this to actually cuddle someone and not nominate them (just a theory) The Ninth Layer posted:##nominate Gulag I like his taste in jrpg's Later he correctly nominates Gulag while not moving his vote off of Kash even though Kash was at like -4 at this point on Day 1 while we were still decidedly in Jokephase The Ninth Layer posted:I agree, let's joke bandwagon Kashuno instead. You and the rest of the thread are already doing it. The Ninth Layer posted:##nominate Gulag still don't know if this president thing is a big joke or not. A second nomination for Gulag (just to make sure that his vote was heard), but then follows it up with "I don't know if this president thing is a joke or not" when Pera told us to do it. I don't think she is going to gently caress with us and have us waste the first day on a joke. The Ninth Layer posted:How so? There are way more town players than scum players, good play is easier to identify than deceptive play. This was another post that pinged me pretty hard. It's hard on D1 to discuss merits at all since there is a high volume of posts and it can be a little tough to discern fact from fiction. TNL is also the first person to throw out "A no vote is scummy". I will be honest despite feeling that same way it's been used against me, so I feel it's fair to use it against TNL here. The Ninth Layer posted:Sal hasn't stuck out to me much, I would vote to prevent a no lynch. While I get this post (and the potential vote) I hate votes that are "Well I don't want to vote for said person but I will." I was in a situation where it was me and Nat20. I don't want to vote for Nat20 but when it looked like it was him or I you better believe I would do anything to survive. However drive by 3rd party votes like this...eh eh I don't like that at loving all. And considering that we got a SK cuddled that night I would say it was worth the change to JJ (yes Asiina I know you said that I would say this, but the point stands.) The Ninth Layer posted:Meh ##vote 50 pounds of bread sorry buddy but I don't see the lynch all liars arguments going away anytime soon. Another "Bro I'm sorry vote." Like I said above if the only two choices were 50 and TNL I could see these votes being made, but he's not even in the mix. He has a chance to defend 50 and he isn't. Anyone can flip a vote, I mean gently caress I was able to help flip a vote on D2 when I was like -3. If you put forth a compelling case anything can happen. And if you are going to hold lack of casing against me, it better apply to TNL as well because there has been no casing at all done by him. And of course the most scummy post out of everything: The Ninth Layer posted:The only animes I watch are DBZ, hunter x hunter, and all the yu gi ohs. Doesn't watch anime but is playing in an anime based game!!!
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Feb 26, 2018 00:09
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asiina's case seems to boil down almost exclusively to "why isn't cat posting reasoning to back up her opinions??" which is just like... ok, I'm still posting, I'm still offering opinions, I mainly work off gut instincts and just grinning at people till they get unnerved so that's not really... a thing that I do? I post votes, I state some opinions, but like... I don't just shout out everything I feel about everyone. sorry??? besides that, I think it's kind of disengenuous to ignore the thread at large by posting poo poo like "wow at least she's playing mafia halfway through day2!!" which... yeah, that's when almost the entire thread started playing the game instead of futzing around with elects. other than that... saying I'm ok with votes and then going back to work isn't anything, it's just a lot of noise.
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Feb 26, 2018 00:31
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SalTheBard posted:I was Vanilla Town in the first thread, but with the start of "Part 2" I got upgraded to a watcher. I watched GeneX (as he was a suspect of mine from the first thread). I wasn't sure if I could do both actions (walk home and track) so I went with the one I felt was safest (watching Gene). then why did you ask who wanted to walk with you!!!
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Feb 26, 2018 00:31
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I could've frickin died
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Feb 26, 2018 00:31
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:I could've frickin died fake walk asks in thread are our most powerful option against scum right now tbh
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Feb 26, 2018 00:35
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:then why did you ask who wanted to walk with you!!! I was hoping that by asking in public I would make myself less appealing! I'm sorry NGO! I was worried about being the only person walking home but I was excited to have an ability :-/
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Feb 26, 2018 00:36
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SalTheBard posted:I was Vanilla Town in the first thread, but with the start of "Part 2" I got upgraded to a watcher. I watched GeneX (as he was a suspect of mine from the first thread). I wasn't sure if I could do both actions (walk home and track) so I went with the one I felt was safest (watching Gene). Oh hey Sal, maybe you shouldn't actually clear this up cause it's nice to keep scum guessing, but I do find it kind of weird you bothered to claim you got a power role but then not make it clear which role you're actually claiming. Particularly if you're a tracker, cause then you should probably give your results. (as opposed to a watcher who should usually NOT share results on someone not dead, cause you could be outing benevolent power roles)
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Feb 26, 2018 00:41
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curiousCat posted:asiina's case seems to boil down almost exclusively to "why isn't cat posting reasoning to back up her opinions??" which is just like... ok, I'm still posting, I'm still offering opinions, I mainly work off gut instincts and just grinning at people till they get unnerved so that's not really... a thing that I do? I post votes, I state some opinions, but like... I don't just shout out everything I feel about everyone. sorry??? I agree, you're posting is a lot of noise  My case is that you aren't actually producing any content, and just because you defend that in a dismissive way doesn't make it not scummy. You've been voting without giving opinions. I don't like how you act as if it's unreasonable to ask you to defend the opinions you hold and the votes you make because that's just not how you play. And if you started actually playing mafia starting D2 this wouldn't be a problem, but my point is you make your first mafia related post half way through D2 and then follow it up with a whole lot of nothing.
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Feb 26, 2018 00:48
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Hey guys, my style of mafia play is that I'm always town and you should never question me.
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Feb 26, 2018 00:58
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I’ve asked pera if she needs to replace me because I’m gonna be busy as hell for much of this week So I’m not looking in depth at anyone/anything, and maybe the case on Cat is a lot more than this, but she is all about utterly refusing to elaborate on her reads and ignoring the game to try to win every single day election That said she seemed a whole lot more communicative in shine v so maybe my meta read is outdated Speaking of day elections, token female, any thoughts on the presidency?
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Feb 26, 2018 01:03
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Natural 20 posted:Hey guys, my style of mafia play is that I'm always town and you should never question me. I've tried that for so many games and it never seems to work even though it's true 
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Feb 26, 2018 01:06
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Natural 20 posted:Hey guys, my style of mafia play is that I'm always town and you should never question me. no, that's me!
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Feb 26, 2018 01:08
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GeneX posted:I’ve asked pera if she needs to replace me because I’m gonna be busy as hell for much of this week post 9 more times so your slot stays alive at least just in case
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Feb 26, 2018 01:08
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I think you made some good cases on Sal and Cat, they are both players who have been around all game without making any significant waves in conversations. My impression of Sal is that he's been roller blading his way in and out of the thread, I don't have any impression of Cat at all. Would vote either. BTW Cat did walk home with me last night.
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Feb 26, 2018 01:21
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In the interest of making sure everyone’s clear on this, I did not walk with anyone last night and did not get bear’d So whatever effect it has, it’s not as simple as “go alone and you die”
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Feb 26, 2018 01:24
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SalTheBard posted:I was hoping that by asking in public I would make myself less appealing! I'm sorry NGO! I was worried about being the only person walking home but I was excited to have an ability :-/ that's fine I don't fault you for using an ability but you should've said something anyway, bullet dodged
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Feb 26, 2018 01:24
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Also I’m not sure I believe sal’s claim because it appears that trackers flipped to watchers (and vice versa? Maybe? Vaguely recall that being claimed) not that VT got superpowered I think it’s best to just leave this floating until/unless things get cleared up by pre-lynch claims because we don’t need even more people claiming PRs, but I wanted to get it out there
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Feb 26, 2018 01:27
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Its a weird feeling about being right about somebody being town, just to have them get murdered. As for people saying ive been mostly noise, i just follow my heart. And that heart is telling me Dead Cow is definetly scum. Eargerly awaiting the results of TF's presidancy
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Feb 26, 2018 01:29
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Bifauxnen posted:Oh hey Sal, maybe you shouldn't actually clear this up cause it's nice to keep scum guessing, but I do find it kind of weird you bothered to claim you got a power role but then not make it clear which role you're actually claiming. Particularly if you're a tracker, cause then you should probably give your results. (as opposed to a watcher who should usually NOT share results on someone not dead, cause you could be outing benevolent power roles) Oh yeah also this, the ambiguity is weird and I don’t like it (As an aside: don’t watch people you think are scummy, watch people you think are town. Do the opposite as a tracker.)
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Feb 26, 2018 01:31
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Mafia edit: the ambiguity in the sal stuff bif is quoting, I mean The swapping between claiming to be a tracker and a watcher
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Feb 26, 2018 01:32
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Maybe I missed it but I thought I was clear on what I did
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Feb 26, 2018 01:36
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SalTheBard posted:Maybe I missed it but I thought I was clear on what I did To quote: “I wasn't sure if I could do both actions (walk home and track) so I went with the one I felt was safest (watchingGene).”
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Feb 26, 2018 01:39
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GeneX posted:To quote: Track was a typo.
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Feb 26, 2018 01:41
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Nothing in this game has really grabbed me yet. There's been a lot of white noise posting in this game and there are still 8 or so players that have made almost no impression on me. The people who have made impressions on me have been town largely just for standing out. I have pretty strong town reads on Token Female and Asiina for example because when they've posted they've been high impact cases. Conversely I have almost no impression of Tired Moritz beyond that he's had some tiffs with Bif before, or NGO beyond that he's been joking around all game.
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Feb 26, 2018 01:45
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SalTheBard posted:Track was a typo. so you decided to watch someone you thought was scum, not someone you thought scum might kill?
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Feb 26, 2018 02:30
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Bifauxnen posted:so you decided to watch someone you thought was scum, not someone you thought scum might kill? I was hoping to watch him visit whoever was killed and catch him red handed. Admittedly I'm also not good at using these powers effectively (see FSN).
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Feb 26, 2018 02:44
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SalTheBard posted:I was hoping to watch him visit whoever was killed and catch him red handed. Admittedly I'm also not good at using these powers effectively (see FSN). hmmm. people sometimes do mix up tracking and watching, but you WERE a tracker in that game. And I dont remember you being confused about how to use it then. Maybe confused about possible redirection or Tobbs' weird ability interacting with stuff, but not the tracking itself.
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Feb 26, 2018 02:50
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Bifauxnen posted:hmmm. I picked poor targets to track (but also got redirected a few times).
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Feb 26, 2018 02:53
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SalTheBard posted:I picked poor targets to track (but also got redirected a few times). right, but you were still purposely trying to track them, to whoever they visited. Even if you dont think you chose the best targets, you didnt seem confused about why you were choosing them, or confused about what your ability actually meant.
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Feb 26, 2018 02:57
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Bifauxnen posted:right, but you were still purposely trying to track them, to whoever they visited. Even if you dont think you chose the best targets, you didnt seem confused about why you were choosing them, or confused about what your ability actually meant. Ya. I proudly watched GeneX. I'm not confused about what I did or who I watched
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Feb 26, 2018 03:01
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SalTheBard posted:Ya. I proudly watched GeneX. I'm not confused about what I did or who I watched then why did you say you wanted to watch him visit whoever he might be killing? That's not a watcher, that's a tracker.
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Feb 26, 2018 03:03
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Bifauxnen posted:then why did you say you wanted to watch him visit whoever he might be killing? That's not a watcher, that's a tracker. I guess I was confused on the difference between watching and tracking. I should've consulted the wiki.
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Feb 26, 2018 03:08
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if this was anyone but Sal I'd be voting them right now, but this is just dumb enough to be a Sal thing and not scum tripping over their fakeclaim
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Feb 26, 2018 03:10
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GeneX posted:if this was anyone but Sal I'd be voting them right now, but this is just dumb enough to be a Sal thing and not scum tripping over their fakeclaim yeah, I had a feeling nothing would actually come out of trying to press it, but still had to give it a go.
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To clarify the above: I thought Watcher and Tracker were essentially the same role.
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