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Trading a #1 defenseman because you don’t think he has much longer as a #1 defenseman only works when you have other defensemen.
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Weird that the McDonagh trade hasn't been announced yet though...
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Feb 26, 2018 22:48
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Or when you're admitting the season is over and trying to bilk other teams out of their assets so you can refuel your team in the summer.
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Feb 26, 2018 22:48
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https://twitter.com/NHLonNBCSports/status/968224213185302528
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Who the gently caress is wingels Bottom 6 guy. Pretty sure he and Gionta are depth for the hell month the Bruins are about to go through.
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Feb 26, 2018 22:49
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xzzy posted:Or when you're admitting the season is over and trying to bilk other teams out of their assets so you can refuel your team in the summer. Luckily there’s always a top 4 on the market so this plan can’t go badly.
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Feb 26, 2018 22:51
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Aphrodite posted:Luckily there’s always a top 4 on the market so this plan can’t go badly. Why do we give a poo poo when rebuilding? Or is it just snark time?
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Feb 26, 2018 22:52
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The Rangers currently have 6 #7 defensemen. You still need to show some active defense even when rebuilding, or the refs call a TKO.
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Hornqvist deal is hardly a steal, but I think it's fine for the penguins window, especially with the cap set to go up.
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Matt Zerella posted:Why do we give a poo poo when rebuilding? Or is it just snark time? Yeah the Rangers are settling down for a nice few seasons of lottery goodness, getting worse is part of the plan
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Feb 26, 2018 22:54
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Aphrodite posted:The Rangers currently have 6 #7 defensemen. Brady Skjei and Marc Staal will save us!
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Aphrodite posted:The Rangers currently have 6 #7 defensemen. Something something a rhyme about the next #1 draft pick.
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Jovial Cow posted:Brady Skjei and Marc Staal will save us! lmao I forgot we still have Marc Staal
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Feb 26, 2018 22:55
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Wamsutta posted:lmao I forgot we still have Marc Staal $5,700,000 'til 20-21
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Feb 26, 2018 22:56
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Also I forgot Shattenkirk who they also have signed for 3 more years.
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Feb 26, 2018 22:57
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Aphrodite posted:Also I forgot Shattenkirk who they also have signed for 3 more years. Do you think they told him the plan was to blow up the team around him or...
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Feb 26, 2018 22:57
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Aphrodite posted:Also I forgot Shattenkirk who they also have signed for 3 more years. They should probably trade him next year when he doesn't have a full NMC.
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Feb 26, 2018 22:59
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the rangers defensive problems thus far start far more with their forwards than their defensemen... Their D depth isn't good right now for sure though and no one is playing particularly well regardless of their potential
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Feb 26, 2018 22:59
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https://twitter.com/Johnny_Perogy/status/968232559715876864
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Aphrodite posted:Luckily there’s always a top 4 on the market so this plan can’t go badly. I didn't say it was a perfect or even realistic plan. But it is a plan! And when it comes to saving your job the appearance of doing something always works better than just weathering the storm.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:01
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Aphrodite posted:Also I forgot Shattenkirk who they also have signed for 3 more years. we'd probably be in the playoffs if he hadn't decided to keep playing for several months after ruining his knee (was that even it? i don't remember now) this season
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Feb 26, 2018 23:03
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Jeff did pretty good. He's still got some poo poo to clear out from Sather but this is a very good start to a rebuild to fit into the "modern NHL". Now my next big milestones for him are the draft and getting a new coaching staff outside of Allaire.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:03
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T-Bone posted:If you take out Namestnikov/Miller that McDonagh return reminds me of the Kovalchuk deal. bergfors was out of the nhl in ~2 years and patrice cormier topped out at middle-6 ahl'er. one of lou's last great heists
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corn on the cop posted:bergfors was out of the nhl in ~2 years and patrice cormier topped out at middle-6 ahl'er. one of lou's last great heists The first ended up being used in the Buff deal though, right?
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What's so frustrating is that Benning has acquired these nothing young* players over and over and it's never worked before yet they keep thinking they've found a guy who's lost in the shuffle on a better team ready to breakout. *not young So far they've acquired: Adam Clendenning at 23 (cost Gustav Forsling) - became throw in for the Sutter trade Andrey Pedan at 22 (cost 3rd round pick) - became throw in for the Pouliot trade Sven Baertschi at 23 (cost 2nd round pick) - serviceable middle six forward Markus Granlund at 22 (cost Hunter Shinkaruk) - serviceable bottom six forward Emerson Etem at 23 (cost 6th round pick) - lost on waivers Nik Goldobin at 21 (cost Jannik Hansen) - AHLer Derick Pouliot at 23 (cost 4th round pick) - #7 at best Tyler Motte at 22 (cost Thomas Vanek) Brendan Leipsic at 23 (cost Philip Holm) Do they honestly expect those last two will have any more success than all the others that came before them? At best they got an okay 2nd liner for an entire draft. Why not just keep the picks and hope for the best? How are any of the guys the team acquired then lost for essentially nothing any better than what they gave up? They're at the point where the first and second generations of reclamation projects have busted out. Goldobin and Pouliot are looking likely to do the same. They never learn, but keep insisting the NEXT guy will be the home run. It's just needlessly frustrating and complicated for no reason.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Who the gently caress is wingels Pretty run of the 4th liner, decent penalty killer. He won't hurt you so long as you don't ask him to do too much. Hawks fans have an out-sized love for him because he's from the Chicagoland area, but he's just a guy.
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T-Bone posted:The first ended up being used in the Buff deal though, right? the last charge of don waddell
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ThinkTank posted:What's so frustrating is that Benning has acquired these nothing young* players over and over and it's never worked before yet they keep thinking they've found a guy who's lost in the shuffle on a better team ready to breakout. Don't forget reid boucher
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corn on the cop posted:everyone, let's take a backseat and admire that jim benning trade. that deal is incredible. Fuckin'  Motte and a free player for Vanek.Underappreciated, Saad+Forsberg+pick became Panarin+Vanek+pick. 
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i am the bird posted:Still looking for confirmation that he tried to trade Nyquist to Winnipeg, though. Detroit could probably unload him at the draft. Not sure why Winnipeg would want Nyquist. They aren't short on wingers. Chevy also said that as soon as he heard that Stastny was available a couple of days ago he dropped everything and focused on that. Sounds like the teams finalized the deal last night and then asked Statsny. I guess he thought about it overnight and decided to waive his ntc.
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So when Gibbons gets back, things should be interesting, it'll likely run something like: Bratt-Hischier-Hall Grabner-Zacha-Palmieri Coleman-Zajac-Maroon (adds physicality to their "shutdown" line I suppose) Wood-Boyle-Gibbons I hope Zacha continues to play as hockey heats up down the stretch. Devils have good forward depth!
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Jordan7hm posted:Don't forget reid boucher I didn't include any waiver wire pick ups but there are a bunch like him who fit the same category: Joseph Cramarossa, Brandon MacMillan, etc.
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Duck Rodgers posted:Not sure why Winnipeg would want Nyquist. They aren't short on wingers. Chevy also said that as soon as he heard that Stastny was available a couple of days ago he dropped everything and focused on that. Sounds like the teams finalized the deal last night and then asked Statsny. I guess he thought about it overnight and decided to waive his ntc. It’s been one of those longstanding rumors in Detroit and someone in the deadline thread said Nyquist chose not to waive the NTC, but I see now that it’s bullshit only being reported by Jeff Moss, who is a total loving boner who has “sources” that are never correct. He’s the same idiot who said Zetterberg vetoed a mom’s trip (including XO’s dying mother) in favor of bringing his friend on the dad’s trip.
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https://twitter.com/omgrodnick/status/968238831077126144 #FireAV
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there's like, no chance vigneault is back next year right? right?
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Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich Vesey-Hayes-Zuccarello Spooner-Namestnikov-Fast McLeod-Desharnais-Carey/Lettieri Skjei-Pionk Staal-O’Gara Gilmour-DeAngelo Hank Well this should be an interesting 19 games. I’d like to get Shattenkirk back so we can see if Skjei-Shattenkirk is a serviceable first pair.
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Jovial Cow posted:Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich switch fast and zucc (and the 2nd and 3rd line around) and that could be kind of a fun line
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Jovial Cow posted:Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich As we get close to the end of the season I'd like to see Andersson/Chytil get a game or two.
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I don't think I saw this mentioned here but apparently Plekanec was 19 games short of 1000 and the Habs traded him to the only team in the league with fewer than 19 games remaining.
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