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Riddle me this: What kind of 3P do you think she is, that has a dayvig that can't kill town? RF put out a decent theory, which if true means she is absolutely hunting for scum. What else is there?
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##vote AS I am concerned about MMT as 3p because of the way she string claimed.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:20
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merk posted:BTW, the string claiming is what makes it clear you're not town. You come out with some new little part of the claim without any regard whatsoever for disclosing this new thing, but you definitely withheld information initially for some reason. That's not how town thinks.  Oh my god merk agrees with me!
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Feb 26, 2018 23:21
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merk posted:Weird vote on AA with mischaracterizations of posts to try to make the vote look legitimate. 1. Lumpen and MMT had the same sort of feeling I did in the beginning of AA. I cooled on AA after we went back and forth, and he posted more and more. I find him feeling town. 2. Lando seemed like a scumslip, as I said. After the explanation, I dropped it. I'm not convinced either way, and feel Neutral. 3. It was clarified, and I stated my vote on you no longer meant anything. You're very clearly misrepresenting what happened, and it seems like you are literally just skimming the game.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:22
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Lando131 posted:Riddle me this: What kind of 3P do you think she is, that has a dayvig that can't kill town? RF put out a decent theory, which if true means she is absolutely hunting for scum. What else is there? I have no idea. I could think of a thousand different things. It's day 1 in a game where I have no information about roles other than my own, the n0 action against me, and the mod posts. Trying to riddle about what 3p alignment she could be seems unhelpful, friendo.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:22
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Lando131 posted:Riddle me this: What kind of 3P do you think she is, that has a dayvig that can't kill town? RF put out a decent theory, which if true means she is absolutely hunting for scum. What else is there? I have no idea. I could think of a thousand different things. It's day 1 in a game where I have no information about roles other than my own, the n0 action against me, and the mod posts. Trying to riddle about what 3p alignment she could be seems unhelpful, friendo.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:22
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merk posted:I am concerned about MMT as 3p because of the way she string claimed. Did you read any of my cases or just focus on the string claim? What're your opinions on Lumpen, b-, and Snail?
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Feb 26, 2018 23:22
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To state my stance, there is some chance that both MMT and Quid are 3P instead of town, yes. MMT is way less likely than Quid, imo, and I also think they're the worst possible lynches today. Why would we intentionally lynch town or a small percent 3P? We should be trying to find scum. The people who are most worried about 3P are scum, so I'll be keeping a closer eye on you from now on, Merk. I was leaning town on you before but now I'm leaning the other direction.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:23
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Murmur Twin posted:Did you read any of my cases or just focus on the string claim? I did read them. However, the string claim jumps off the page, friendo. Lumpen: Don't know - weird he hasn't made a LumpenList. His PR makes him hard to read. bminus: Don't know. Snail: Could be scum. His RF vote is the only vote that has any meaning in the game, and he only gave the explanation for it after I forced him to do it.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:25
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Lando131 posted:The people who are most worried about 3P are scum, so I'll be keeping a closer eye on you from now on, Merk. I was leaning town on you before but now I'm leaning the other direction. Here's a mafia tip: This isn't a scum tell. It's moreso a 3p tell than anything (but I'm not 3p).
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Feb 26, 2018 23:26
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merk posted:Here's a mafia tip: This isn't a scum tell. It's moreso a 3p tell than anything (but I'm not 3p). Thanks, Dad. ##vote Merk
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Feb 26, 2018 23:27
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DGK2000 posted:1. Lumpen and MMT had the same sort of feeling I did in the beginning of AA. I cooled on AA after we went back and forth, and he posted more and more. I find him feeling town. What exactly did I misrepresent?
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Feb 26, 2018 23:27
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merk posted:BTW, the string claiming is what makes it clear you're not town. You come out with some new little part of the claim without any regard whatsoever for disclosing this new thing, but you definitely withheld information initially for some reason. That's not how town thinks. To be clear, is "someone claimed a vig that can kill scum and confirm town, I am concerned about them" how town thinks? I claimed no bullets because I thought I had seen through a transparent attempt to rolefish me. And I did, it's just not from the person who I originally thought was doing it.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:27
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Lando131 posted:Thanks, Dad. I've probably played 400 mafia games. I am an actual dad. Thanks! Good luck with your vote.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:27
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Lando131 posted:Dead Cow has been flying under my radar and upon rereading him I just realized why. He's said absolutely nothing about who he thinks is scum or town, despite being around to post about flavor and question people about roles. The only potential take he's even had is that B-minus1 has been quiet this game. I think 50 is going hard on something stupid. I think Merk's push to go after a potential 3P day one is dumb and I don't know what information we would gain from that. What threat is there to town of a brutal cop that can't kill town? It's an easy lynch for scum to jump on because they don't lose anything from it, and if Merk is wrong about MMT being 3P and MMT is town, then even more beneficial to scum. What the heck are you doing Merk?
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Feb 26, 2018 23:29
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Dead Cow posted:I think 50 is going hard on something stupid. I think Merk's push to go after a potential 3P day one is dumb and I don't know what information we would gain from that. What threat is there to town of a brutal cop that can't kill town? Stirring up content in a game where it looks like we're going to lazily walk into a lovely d1 lynch.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:30
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merk posted:I did read them. However, the string claim jumps off the page, friendo. Yikes. I'd vote for any of Lumpen, Merk, b-, or Snail.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:32
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Murmur Twin posted:Yikes. What's wrong with any of that?
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Feb 26, 2018 23:32
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Well it's a start, I'm glad you're just playing dumb then. Cause if you actually believed this is the best course of action, why, I'd think you'd be off your rocker
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Feb 26, 2018 23:33
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merk posted:What exactly did I misrepresent? quote:Weird vote on AA with mischaracterizations of posts to try to make the vote look legitimate. Wasn't mischaracterizing anything. I literally said why. Also literally said why, and flat out told you my vote on you was meaningless after clarifications.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:33
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merk posted:Stirring up content in a game where it looks like we're going to lazily walk into a lovely d1 lynch. Me: did you read my cases? Merk: no
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Feb 26, 2018 23:33
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Murmur Twin posted:Me: did you read my cases? This is literally scum merk, btw.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:33
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There's an awful lot of people who aren't around still, for a game that can no longer have B-b-but my weekends as an excuse.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:34
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Murmur Twin posted:Are you implying that town might try to... deceive scum? That is indeed what I'm implying. Merk doesn't seem to think that's a thing though. Makes me a bit sus on him tbh, like he's trying to get you before you can fire a second shot.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:36
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Dead Cow posted:There's an awful lot of people who aren't around still, for a game that can no longer have B-b-but my weekends as an excuse. Shut up and make a loving case or something. You're being less than useful.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:36
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DGK2000 posted:Wasn't mischaracterizing anything. I think you were. I guess we can agree to disagree? You didn't explain why you forgot about AA. You're still voting me. If the vote is """""""moot""""""""", then unvote and vote someone else?
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Feb 26, 2018 23:36
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DGK2000 posted:Shut up and make a loving case or something. You're being less than useful. YOU'RE RIDING A MOOT VOTE!
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Feb 26, 2018 23:36
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DON'T YELL AT A DEAD COW WHILE YOU'RE RIDING A MOOT VOTE
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Feb 26, 2018 23:37
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merk posted:You're still voting me. If the vote is """""""moot""""""""", then unvote and vote someone else? Working on that thing I said earlier, and you aren't in danger of being lynched so 
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Feb 26, 2018 23:37
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merk posted:DON'T YELL AT A DEAD COW WHILE YOU'RE RIDING A MOOT VOTE This is loving hilarious coming from you, Mr. I don't read the thread. Mr. I classically tunnel on Dead Cow in every game.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:38
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DGK2000 posted:This is loving hilarious coming from you, Mr. I don't read the thread. Mr. I classically tunnel on Dead Cow in every game. It's a joke, friend. I'm glad you find it hilarious.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:39
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I also think Dead Cow is cool because they are also over the whole human vs host flavour debate
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Feb 26, 2018 23:39
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DGK2000 posted:Shut up and make a loving case or something. You're being less than useful. Uh, I did, I said Merk was being terrible. I also made a bit of a case on Lumpen, still no response from him.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:39
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Gridlocked posted:That is indeed what I'm implying. Merk doesn't seem to think that's a thing though. Makes me a bit sus on him tbh, like he's trying to get you before you can fire a second shot. I don't lie about my role when town. I withhold information, at best, but I'll tell you when I'm withholding because it's in town's best interest. Read my post above that Opo quoted. I think MMT purposely withheld information with a purpose and then chose to string claim it with a fake 'eh whatever who cares' vibe about it. That doesn't ring town to me. I'm willing to let it go today. I know I won't get her lynched (and I don't think she's scum at the moment).
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Feb 26, 2018 23:40
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Murmur Twin posted:Me: did you read my cases? But I did read them.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:41
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merk posted:It's a joke, friend. I'm glad you find it hilarious. ugh I thought the T was bolded too my bad.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:41
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Lando131 posted:Because with her ability there's no way she's scum. I want to correct this real fast. You mean with her claimed ability it doesn't make a lot of sense for her to be scum based on what we know right now. Town loses when we assume people aren't scum based solely on role. We don't have perfect information. She could be lying (e.g. Faulty Vig?).
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Feb 26, 2018 23:42
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When MMT claimed she specifically said she didn't want to fullclaim. I'm going to go back and see who the original rolefisher was because that's not cool and untowny.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:43
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Lando131 posted:When MMT claimed she specifically said she didn't want to fullclaim. I'm going to go back and see who the original rolefisher was because that's not cool and untowny. So why'd she claim that she has no more shots? The only town justification, which I now agree with after thinking about it more even though I don't do that myself, would be if she's lying.
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Feb 26, 2018 23:44
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merk posted:##vote AS Just the one-shot part or was there some other bit she left out? I wouldn’t have said that in my initial claim either. She only added on when asked to shoot someone else, which she didn’t have to respond to I guess but I don’t really see why you think that’s more 3rd party than town
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