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KoRMaK posted:Yea I plugged my salary here into one of those cost of living calcs and it easily doubled it for San Jose area at like $190k. when you move across the country, your salary will never, ever rise as fast as CoL does this is like, microeconomics 101. literally. my first micro-economics course in college went into considerable detail about the math of utility curves and cost of living adjustments people move to higher-cost areas, get paid a little bit more, and make different consumption choices in response to the changing circumstances. e.g. live in a smaller home with cooler stuff, go to fancier restaurants more often, etc your total consumption still rises despite the unfavorable change in CoL-to-salary ratio because your basket of purchased goods changes. your basket changes because the relative costs are different -- suddenly a high end stereo looks really cheap, but having a walk-in closet is a tremendous luxury.
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cis autodrag posted:Doesn't the bay area literally have googlers living in rvs, box trucks, and shanty walls erected around people's bath tubs because the housing prices are so out of whack? that is because fresh out of college googlers are dumber than waxed dogshit, not out of necessity (paying off your college loans early is not an emergency that justifies living in a van)
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:that is because fresh out of college googlers are dumber than waxed dogshit, not out of necessity I dunno, my budget would be significantly easier without those loans. If I didn't have a family I might consider the spartan lifestyle for a couple years to make things easier after that.
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well education is one of two acceptable things to borrow money for, and the fact that you're paying the loans off puts you way ahead of many graduates
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Feb 27, 2018 07:07
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i aggressively paid off my loans as soon as i got the chance because they were crushing me when i was broke. perhaps i could have invested the money and done a little better in the long run but i don't regret just getting it over with at all.
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When I got my degree ten years ago in the UK tuition was only £3k/year, even if you went to Oxbridge. So if you did 4 years you leave uni with a total of £28k ish in debt (also factoring in maintenance loans) with 0.9% interest. Now I hear it's roughly £70k at 6.1% interest lol. Sucks to be a centennial. But paying off that kind of loan aggressively is single handedly the best investment decision you can ever make.
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Feb 27, 2018 08:06
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i thankfully dont have any student debt cause i had a scholarship and it really really helps doesnt make this world not a capitalistic hellscape tho
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Feb 27, 2018 08:19
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qhat posted:When I got my degree ten years ago in the UK tuition was only £3k/year, even if you went to Oxbridge. So if you did 4 years you leave uni with a total of £28k ish in debt (also factoring in maintenance loans) with 0.9% interest. Now I hear it's roughly £70k at 6.1% interest lol. Sucks to be a centennial. But paying off that kind of loan aggressively is single handedly the best investment decision you can ever make. Be glad you were born in a civilized country sir.
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Feb 27, 2018 08:36
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one of my student loans was 8% interest. pretty bad
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Feb 27, 2018 08:39
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My country still provides free tuition (public schools only obv) but shitheads are making waves and trying to make it paid. Luckily so far people see it as the stupid idea it is.
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My student loans (totalling 5k if translated to freedom money) has 1% interest. If the Danish central bank lowers their interest further it'll go below. It might be zero.
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Xarn posted:My country still provides free tuition (public schools only obv) but shitheads are making waves and trying to make it paid. Luckily so far people see it as the stupid idea it is. same here, hail liberalism
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Feb 27, 2018 09:13
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Pollyanna posted:i sent a counter offer at 120k, watch me squander this opportunity lol Whoa whoa where are you commanding these warlord wages?
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Feb 27, 2018 10:03
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I'm ranked #2 in my sales job for YTD out of 100 and besides a referral to two different cruise companies I have no idea what I'm doing. My goal is to move my base up by $15K but I assume I just put some of this out on LinkedIn and the emails come in?
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Feb 27, 2018 10:17
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havent heard a peep posted:I'm ranked #2 in my sales job for YTD out of 100 and besides a referral to two different cruise companies I have no idea what I'm doing. My goal is to move my base up by $15K but I assume I just put some of this out on LinkedIn and the emails come in? Tell me about uhh, sex tours. They're bad of course and I don't think they should be uhhhhh... yo just tell me about them. loving tell me u oval office tell me now
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Note to mods: above post is not serious. note to "havent heard a peep": yo
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qhat posted:When I got my degree ten years ago in the UK tuition was only £3k/year, even if you went to Oxbridge. So if you did 4 years you leave uni with a total of £28k ish in debt (also factoring in maintenance loans) with 0.9% interest. Now I hear it's roughly £70k at 6.1% interest lol. Sucks to be a centennial. But paying off that kind of loan aggressively is single handedly the best investment decision you can ever make. interest on student loans is still like 1% in scotland, thanks to free tuition i thnink ive only got like 3k in debt left, should be done this year
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Feb 27, 2018 12:56
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Valeyard posted:interest on student loans is still like 1% in scotland, thanks to free tuition i thnink ive only got like 3k in debt left, should be done this year the salary scale is very different than bay area but base benefits outweigh it imo
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havent heard a peep posted:Whoa whoa where are you commanding these warlord wages? I hosed up lol
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Pollyanna posted:I hosed up lol Maybe you should go into devops? I didn’t know dev pay was that low. I make 10k more in a lower CoL east coast city and have anecdotally heard that the common Boston salary for SREs/Devops was 140k+.
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freeasinbeer posted:Maybe you should go into devops? I didn’t know dev pay was that low. I make 10k more in a lower CoL east coast city and have anecdotally heard that the common Boston salary for SREs/Devops was 140k+. that's the upper end of the range for base salary at not-big-5 but yeah i can confirm that's pretty reasonable for sre work in boston
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freeasinbeer posted:Maybe you should go into devops? I didn’t know dev pay was that low. I make 10k more in a lower CoL east coast city and have anecdotally heard that the common Boston salary for SREs/Devops was 140k+. I’ve considered SRE but I have no experience in it and is the pay truly that low? keep in mind that I don’t have much experience and I also don’t have other offers to bounce it off of, and my attempt at bumping it up was rebuffed. I dont think more than 100k is achievable at this company, but im not sure whether to keep looking or take it due to the whole unemployment thing
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Feb 27, 2018 15:04
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take the loving job you goddamn idiot
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it's funny how pollyanna keeps taking every opportunity to rationalize not taking the job while the entire thread is just screaming to TAKE THE JOB
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Feb 27, 2018 15:14
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mods namechange Pollyanna to TAKE THE JOB POLLYANNA
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goon in a well
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TimWinter posted:Hey Penisface, what languages can you write in? If I know any of them PM me and we can do a mock interview if you'd like. Hey thanks for the offer, I am mostly Python/Java, but it seems now my interviewing processes are done for this time around.
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my Apple phone screen last night seemed to go pretty well, but they repeatedly asked if I had anything more recent I could publish on my GitHub. unfortunately all of my recent projects are class assignments (that they reuse) and they turbofuck you if you post them on public repos. after this semester I'll have a few independent mini-research projects that I can publish, but it's a bit of a bummer in the meantime. I asked them if they have a specific reviewer on the team I'm interviewing for I can add them to my private repos to take a look, but we'll see
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Pollyanna posted:I hosed up lol take the job pollyanna i am also taking the job, and all that self doubt stuff and i am not bothering to quote whatevers you have gone through in this thread, but i have thought these exact same thoughts and in the end i just figured it does not matter: 1) even if the job sucks, you will both get some practical skills, experience and money while you continue looking 2) if the job doesn't suck, profit! dont worry about not being skilled enough for the job, that's the company's responsibility to hire people who can do the job, you just do your best
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Feb 27, 2018 15:34
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took the job and if they want me to work long hours i will do long hours but i will accomplish as much poo poo as i can during that time gently caress being a useless piece of poo poo im sick of it
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:my Apple phone screen last night seemed to go pretty well, but they repeatedly asked if I had anything more recent I could publish on my GitHub. unfortunately all of my recent projects are class assignments (that they reuse) and they turbofuck you if you post them on public repos. after this semester I'll have a few independent mini-research projects that I can publish, but it's a bit of a bummer in the meantime. how can they gently caress you for posting stuff on github? assuming you’re not a student of course
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Boiled Water posted:how can they gently caress you for posting stuff on github? assuming you’re not a student of course
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I’m a grad student you still own the copyright to code you've written. if you're willing to rock the boat and leave with a ms you can probably push back on this.
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Feb 27, 2018 16:41
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gently caress u got job gently caress u will kick rear end at job gently caress u
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Caganer posted:you still own the copyright to code you've written. if you're willing to rock the boat and leave with a ms you can probably push back on this. not always the case anymore, you need to read the fine print on the enrollment papers
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ok so here's the thing: i get that i am not at the point where my skills are particularly good. in fact i suck. so i decided to challenge myself and tackle new and interesting problems. hence the startup job the >40 hour week thing is a pain in the rear end but ultimately i am willing to deal with it in exchange for Not Being Useless as long as it doesnt get too bad, and plan to push back if it does most advice people can give me does not apply in my case so just let me do my thing ok? let me do my drat job thxu for having me
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Pollyanna posted:ok so here's the thing: i get that i am not at the point where my skills are particularly good. in fact i suck. so i decided to challenge myself and tackle new and interesting problems. hence the startup job Actually, most of the advice does apply, since you are currently doing everything as advised. Congratulations. And yeah the more senior the job you apply for, the more they're going to look for strong and solid achievements in the workplace, rather than "programmed software for clients". Specifically look for things you can spearhead and be prepared for push back from idiots who never thought of your ideas before you came. qhat fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Feb 27, 2018 |
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qhat posted:Actually, most of the advice does apply, since you are currently doing everything as advised. Congratulations. well, true but still im sick of being useless and getting poo poo rightfully dumped on me makes me realize that ive really let myself go
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Pollyanna posted:well, true The more senior the job you go for, the more they are going to be looking for strong and quantifiable achievements in your previous jobs, rather than "programmed software in Windows". Look for important things you can personally spearhead and claim, and be prepared for push back because you're making everyone else look bad for not coming up with the ideas before you got there.
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spearhead and claim poo poo instead of being passive, gotcha resume-driven development  other advice for taking my career seriously? aside from "do your job well"
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