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appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Ooh found a Gaia World real near my home system! It even says it's holy so it must be drat good.

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President Ark
May 16, 2010

:iiam:

Lum_ posted:

So my last playthrough I fell into a death spiral which really illustrated why a lot of the new decisions were made.

Playing as Commonwealth of Man, had a really defensible position (Honorbound Warriors who respected my militancy and tendency to build lots of ships and signed a NAP fairly quickly on one side, Fallen Empire on another) and built up pretty solidly. However my food production wasn't keeping up. I wasn't too worried about it - I figured eventually I'd trade for it or something.

Then it collapsed QUICKLY - ran out of my limited food stockpile while I wasn't paying attention. OK, queue up some farms on empty squares, get out of the red. Except that my unrest started tanking HARD.

No problem, just spam some defens.... oh. Right. Tried to use martial law edicts to fix that. My banked influence covered 3 worlds... and it didn't even help that much. Soon ALL my pops were rioting with huge maluses to productivity, which meant I was growing EVEN LESS food. I had nothing to trade for food even if anyone would, because I swiftly ran out of money as well.

Pirates are attacking. Oh. They're... quite strong! 2K fleets! No matter, I still have 4K defense fleets... oh wait, I'm out of money. They're crippled. I throw them all at one pirate fleet anyway and do very badly. The others proceed to eat my stations.

My scientists die and I can't replace them - no money.

"Rome falls".

Game is good.

protip in case this ever happens to you or anyone else in the future: you can trade for food with other empires; this just almost never comes up you mentioned this in your post i can't read

appropriatemetaphor posted:

Ooh found a Gaia World real near my home system! It even says it's holy so it must be drat good.

now build a colossus and use a planet cracker on it :unsmigghh:

yes, the FE reacts to you doing this; no, it doesn't end well for you

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006
son of a bitch, figured out what my influence problem is

the Materialist faction usually gets a boost from the AI Allowed law existing

once you are synthetically ascended, that law disappears

and with it, any way to get your guys above 60% happiness without starting to hand out tech to all and sundry of your rivals

piss

President Ark
May 16, 2010

:iiam:

Ze Pollack posted:

son of a bitch, figured out what my influence problem is

the Materialist faction usually gets a boost from the AI Allowed law existing

once you are synthetically ascended, that law disappears

and with it, any way to get your guys above 60% happiness without starting to hand out tech to all and sundry of your rivals

piss

:laffo:

in other news, my current game with tweaked FTL (reduced connectivity but increased gateways and much increased wormholes) has me in a cul-de-sac with a 5k fleet of crystalline entities on one exit and the enigmatic fortress on the other

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009

Jumpdrives require a bit too much babysitting to use as a fast travel method.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

I've been adding the faction from Twilight Imperium IV to my pre-made roster and Stellaris is flexible enough to handle all of them except the Embers of Muaat and the Ghosts of Creus. They're both energy beings who use contact suits to interact with other factions, so it would make sense to have them as machine empires for now except I don't think either species has a gestalt consciousness. Also, the Embers live on a lava planet that may best be substituted with an apocalyptic start and the Ghosts live on the other side of a wormhole in a pocket dimension, but there is no wormhole world start yet.

tldr: WIZ where's the energy being story pack and wormhole starting civic? :argh:

e. actually robots don't have to have gestalt consciousness. Is that new?

e. nope I was wrong. Robots have to have gestalt consciousness :(

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Well, since we're sharing species, here is the only one I've made so far that I've actually used much.



quote:

Ixali origin myth states they once lived in the heavens as the divine soldiers of their Goddess, Garuda. However a great evil threatened the heavens and Garuda ordered her servants to the land below to cleanse it and to remain there as guardians. For centuries they stood watch as the world turned cold and barren and as further Ixali generations exhibited fewer and fewer feathers, robbing them of their ability to fly.

However the Ixal can remain no longer, for they have created new wings, and they shall return to the heavens and rejoin their Goddess. (In reality the Ixali are the product of a lost empire, bioengineered eons ago as airborne troops and technicians during a cataclysmic galactic war. Their goddess, Garuda, is but a twisted version of their commanding general.)

Anyone who has played Final Fantasy XIV will recognize the name and background, so they're not very original :v: The custom logo is a dinky one I slapped together, I replaced it with a standard one for the pastbin below.

https://pastebin.com/xqK5NVhd

President Ark posted:

now build a colossus and use a planet cracker on it :unsmigghh:

yes, the FE reacts to you doing this; no, it doesn't end well for you

I wonder how they react if you armageddon bomb a gaia world someone else has colonized until it becomes a tomb world.

Dongattack
Dec 20, 2006

by Cyrano4747
What happens if i take a robot "race" through the Horizon Signal chain?

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."

appropriatemetaphor posted:

Totally blocked by mining drones, buuuut have a load of planets. Going tall I guess for now.



edit: found another habitable planet :psyduck: all within a few jumps of the start. .25x planets my butt.

You are guaranteed 2(?) habitable planets near your start, and I don't think the planet slider affects those.

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!

Dongattack posted:

What happens if i take a robot "race" through the Horizon Signal chain?

You can't. Gesalt conciousness won't trigger the event.

FLIPSIXTHREEHOLE
Dec 30, 2010

Wiz, there's nothing wrong with it as is, but I think the "Charismatic" trait should also unlock a set of very hilarious insults to use in the Diplomacy screen because it's an idea I just had and now I'm typing it out.

Dongattack
Dec 20, 2006

by Cyrano4747

IAmTheRad posted:

You can't. Gesalt conciousness won't trigger the event.

Hmm, yeah, i guess you're right. I got something similar where one of my science ships came out of a black hole, but i'm not actually missing any. And i have the option to let them in and gain a science ship or shoot them down, but i guess it's something else.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
"How amusing, you fight like a space-whale" YES DO THIS.

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

Dongattack posted:

Hmm, yeah, i guess you're right. I got something similar where one of my science ships came out of a black hole, but i'm not actually missing any. And i have the option to let them in and gain a science ship or shoot them down, but i guess it's something else.

Yeah, that's a whole other event. And unfortunately a one off. I don't think the Other Science Ship ever turns out to be a trap or anything. You'll know if you got the Horizon Signal chain. The writing stands out. edit: One of the creator's other works, Sunless Sea, has the best achievement.

TGLT fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Feb 28, 2018

President Ark
May 16, 2010

:iiam:

Galaga Galaxian posted:


I wonder how they react if you armageddon bomb a gaia world someone else has colonized until it becomes a tomb world.

unfortunately, nothing; they will also have a disappointing lack of reaction if a machine empire terraforms one into a machine world

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


President Ark posted:

unfortunately, nothing; they will also have a disappointing lack of reaction if a machine empire terraforms one into a machine world

WIZ! :argh:

j/k fun game, no surprise it doesn't account for rare eventualities like that.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Pylons posted:

Jumpdrives require a bit too much babysitting to use as a fast travel method.

Yeah I wish there were some settings to make this easier. Like "always jump" or "always jump inside my borders"

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

TGLT posted:

Yeah, that's a whole other event. And unfortunately a one off. I don't think the Other Science Ship ever turns out to be a trap or anything.

Doesn't that event bump up the percentage chance, or the minimum time, for the Unbidden to show up?

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

President Ark posted:

unfortunately, nothing; they will also have a disappointing lack of reaction if a machine empire terraforms one into a machine world

Man that one really deserves one though. Even if it's just "*loud incoherent screaming*" or something.

Milky Moor posted:

Doesn't that event bump up the percentage chance, or the minimum time, for the Unbidden to show up?

As far as I can tell no. The ship gets tagged with hidden_effect = {ship_event = { id = anomaly.211 days = 33 }} but that just looks like setting it so it uses the right visual effect.

TGLT fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Feb 28, 2018

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
2.0.2 when

axeil
Feb 14, 2006
My beautiful creations.

The Remnant (Species: Fallen Humans)



Intended to be a post-apocalyptic race of humans who are pissed that they were stranded on a dying world.

The Gaian Confederacy (Species: Humans)



Intended to be played only in games where The Remnant is used. These are the people who fled and while you can't force it they should always end up arch-rivals with the Remnant.

March of the Butterflies (Species: KILLER BUTTERFLIES)



VERY CUTE. VERY SCARY.

The Grove of Tranquility (Species: Barkians)



Basically tree hippies. In my game they also became psychic.

TGLT posted:

Yeah, that's a whole other event. And unfortunately a one off. I don't think the Other Science Ship ever turns out to be a trap or anything. You'll know if you got the Horizon Signal chain. The writing stands out. edit: One of the creator's other works, Sunless Sea, has the best achievement.

The writer of Sunless Sea wrote Horizon Signal? That's the best event chain in the game. poo poo, I need to get around to playing Sunless Sea then.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Randarkman posted:

It's a shame that no one has made a Skaven/ratmen portrait pack yet. Really want to make a Skaven fanatic purifier empire set to using the pirate graphical culture for their ships.

It's not animated and doesn't have alternate colors but there is at least one picture and also a custom built namelist:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1315761568

EDIT: If you want me to add your species to the Goon Pack, hit me up with a pastebin of the info from your user_empire_designs.txt.

Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Feb 28, 2018

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!
Erm, I think someone is trying to flee aggressors.

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

axeil posted:

The writer of Sunless Sea wrote Horizon Signal? That's the best event chain in the game. poo poo, I need to get around to playing Sunless Sea then.

Yeah, Alexis Kennedy wrote Horizon Signal. As for Sunless Sea the narrative is good, but the game kinda has a bad difficulty curve. It's real tough, then you hit mid-game and it's pretty straight forward but your victory condition is probably a ways away. All the actual text stuff is top notch though. edit: I haven't played since the Zubmariner expansion was released though so I might be wrong about it now. Also if you do play definitely gently caress around with the Chapel of Lights. Mr. Eaten is still the best thing to come out of that whole universe.

TGLT fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Feb 28, 2018

axeil
Feb 14, 2006
Cracked my first world, which was occupied by flower people. It was their capital world too. Quite ironic considering I'm tree people. But the galactic response was :geno:

Shouldn't everyone be either terrified or allying against me at this point? A -100 malus to opinion didn't do too much because everyone seems to like me a whole lot.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


appropriatemetaphor posted:

Totally blocked by mining drones, buuuut have a load of planets. Going tall I guess for now.



edit: found another habitable planet :psyduck: all within a few jumps of the start. .25x planets my butt.

mining drones are not as threatening as they appear. their lasers have -75% to shields and they have no other weapons; as such, a small fleet of all-shields corvettes is essentially immortal against the drones. you should never feel particularly blocked by them!

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Tobermory posted:

I suspect that they added the limit to keep people from going exponential with dyson spheres. Back in 1.9 before they nerfed the merchants, I had a game with the limit modded out where I made it to 5 spheres and 3 nexi by the time the Prethoryn hit.

I get why we can only have one its that we cannot simultaneously build two different ones at the same time that I don't get. Like take building a ring world for an example, why can't I build all four sections at once?

Digital Osmosis
Nov 10, 2002

Smile, Citizen! Happiness is Mandatory.

TGLT posted:

edit: One of the creator's other works, Sunless Sea, has the best achievement.

confirming that this is, in fact, the best achievement. Also my suggestion for Sunless Sea is the literal second you get frustrated, edit your save file and cheat like crazy. The mechanics, while thematically correct, get in the way of the insane writing. I mean I get that zailing the zea is supposed to be hard and drive you insane, but it makes me sad to think someone might not get far enough out to meet the soul-stealing ape society or whatever.

and axeil, I think we're on a similar wavelength - I made my custom devouring swarm empire using the peacock portrait and named their empire "Oh poo poo! Peacocks!!" Most of the cute species make me want to give them the horrific civics... except the penguins, I always just make them giant badasses. I'm not sure why but the idea of a hardbitten space penguin just cracks me up.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Finally done! These are my take on the Twilight Imperium IV races. You can see the originals and their backstories here: https://imgur.com/r/twilightimperium/kfzt2

















Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006
sunless sea is Exceedingly Good writing, coupled to an Exceedingly Mediocre sailing game

that said, that you can make a ludicrous amount of money running mushroom-wine to the Elder Continent's sole port in Adam's Way for Darkdrop Coffee, head northeast to Irem-That-Will-Be to trade for parabola-linen, and then run that back to Fallen London for a frankly ludicrous profit

that there is 1. a triangle trade 2. between London, the kingdom of Prester John, and a city on the border of dreams and reality owns so very hard.

if you're feeling greedy you can skip fueling up at London and spend a little bit longer sailing south, so you can fuel up in Hell. only place in the Neath fuel's cheaper! but you're kinda rolling the dice every time you set in at the Iron Republic; it turns out when the devils overthrew their monarchs' tyranny, they instituted TRUE democracy. no laws, save those agreed upon by representatives, and the representatives keep waffling on which of the laws of physics are unacceptably tyrannical.

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

President Ark posted:

protip in case this ever happens to you or anyone else in the future: you can trade for food with other empires; this just almost never comes up you mentioned this in your post i can't read


now build a colossus and use a planet cracker on it :unsmigghh:

yes, the FE reacts to you doing this; no, it doesn't end well for you

They cant be that important if the FE will crack thier own gaia world like just happened in my game

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

axeil posted:

But the galactic response was :geno:

Those flowers were jerks.

Has anyone managed to get all the outermost systems? I want to be the Rim Lords (snicker).

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Pacifier colossus weapon can't be used on Machine Worlds :<

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Oh yeah and in case anyone wants ultrahellwars, building a Colossus gives you a hellwar Casus Belli.

President Ark
May 16, 2010

:iiam:

Sloober posted:

They cant be that important if the FE will crack thier own gaia world like just happened in my game

well the message they send when you crack a holy world is "You cannot possibly understand the magnitude of the sin you have committed. Not yet" and presumably as the spiritualist FE they know the magnitude of the sin they are committing.

(and if anyone is wondering, that's followed by them awakening immediately and declaring war on you)

President Ark fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Feb 28, 2018

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1314848686

Friends Like These is updated with 7 new species from Libluini and Galaga Galaxian. I think I'm almost getting the hang of this.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Admiral Joeslop posted:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1314848686

Friends Like These is updated with 7 new species from Libluini and Galaga Galaxian. I think I'm almost getting the hang of this.

Cool and good, thanks for keeping this updated, hope my races can annoy some people :)

e; I ought to post my catmans empire at some point to add in.

Unhappy Meal
Jul 27, 2010

Some smiles show mirth
Others merely show teeth

Oh, we're sharing races? I've been wanting to throw these in the thread for awhile just cause I'm proud of the flavor text.


My cute little metalheads that I force in every game. Being a democracy they usually just end up shifting out of metalhead and then get broken up into a bunch of little successor states. Ultimately me taking an extended joke way too far. Empire Adjective: Gotterverdammtes


The empire that makes me sad that Determined Exterminators are forced to be a Rogue Defense System.


Sometimes you want to play Minecraft, and sometimes you steal the storyline from Battlefield 2142.

That Guy Bob
Apr 30, 2009
Should clicking influence open the edicts tab? I keep clicking it like clicking your science opens the research screen and clicking your unity opens the traditions screen.

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Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
God drat, is zero point energy gated behind something other than the previous power source? I cannot get this to drop!

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