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why try to force Roman to be "the guy" rather than Rollins? it makes zero sense at this point.
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Roman's true finisher is the 'other guys help me powerbomb someone', and the spear and punch are just for when there aren't other guys around.
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Mar 2, 2018 00:25
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the escape goat posted:why try to force Roman to be "the guy" rather than Rollins? it makes zero sense at this point. Roman can do a job to Finn Balor without injuring him.
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Mar 2, 2018 00:26
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a225hHXvfYI It's Big E's birthday, he's a big boy today.
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Part of the issue is he keeps being sold as a power wrestler where his power moves are all meh at best. Roman should be sold more as a striker and probably should use the Rainmaker as his super finisher. According to the Observer Keith Lee seems to be on the WWE radar.
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the escape goat posted:why try to force Roman to be "the guy" rather than Rollins? it makes zero sense at this point. The tenants of National Socialism.
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Mar 2, 2018 00:37
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go back in time and have rollins be a face after coming back from injury still dont understand what was gong through vince's head after they do the documentary on rollins recovery and everyone was pumped he returned, huge pops, that was the time to push him as a face, but nope let's have him cut a promo saying he hates his fans
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maybe Wwf should have several of the guy, all friends with eachother, who help do powerbombs, charity events, and and more. we're running out of time on this planet.
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Mar 2, 2018 00:38
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Do it ironically posted:go back in time and have rollins be a face after coming back from injury That documentary was such good babyface material. How can you not root for a guy who woke up from surgery and immediately started talking about getting his title back?
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Really looking forward to The Raw After Mania™ this year to hear how the crowd will top last year's reaction to Roman Reigns coming out.
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CobiWann posted:The tenants of National Socialism. tenets
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Catching up on the 205 Live tournament, spent most of Andrews/Tozawa wondering why I hadn't seen it in the match rec thread. Then that finish happened and I just went "...oh." Who in the world thought that was a good idea.
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boar guy posted:tenets Correcting a guy's spelling on a post about Nazis. Can you no see where this is going?
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Gonzo McFee posted:Correcting a guy's spelling on a post about Nazis. Can you no see where this is going? not see
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the escape goat posted:why try to force Roman to be "the guy" rather than Rollins? it makes zero sense at this point. Rollins was extremely cold and not very good for most of 2017. It wasn't really his fault, but he had a bad year.
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MassRafTer posted:I love that people still bring up how many moves he does, but are you sure the Miz is the best example? The Miz's execution is awful, his offense looks very week and after almost a decade and a half in the business he's still awful at catching dives. Beyond that his matches never have the kind of heat or psychology Roman's have. Yeah, I don't like Roman because of his lovely character, and honestly I don't like his matches as much as I "should" because they're so boring and predictable. (I don't mean LOL ROMAN WINS, but just SUPERMAN PUNCH!!!) but the moves he actually does look impactful and he's improved a lot at selling and telling a story in the ring. He's definitely better than the Miz, and if the Miz was booked like Roman Reigns it would be the most horrible thing to ever happen
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MassRafTer posted:Rollins was extremely cold and not very good for most of 2017. It wasn't really his fault, but he had a bad year. Yeah it's been nice over the last couple of months to remember,"Oh yeah, Seth Rollins is actually really, really loving good." Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Marquis de Pyro posted:
Did you mean: Miz's entire face run that actually happened and wasn't a joke.
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MassRafTer posted:I love that people still bring up how many moves he does, but are you sure the Miz is the best example? The Miz's execution is awful, his offense looks very week and after almost a decade and a half in the business he's still awful at catching dives. Beyond that his matches never have the kind of heat or psychology Roman's have. Sorry which Mania match was a heatless snoozefest again? Oh that's right Roman vs. Undertaker. People were at least vaguely interested in Miz and Maryse vs. John and Nikki. The Miz is so good at what he does he can get people to cheer Roman. It's unbelievable.
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Reminder that the Shield was super over before being broken up and it's pretty amazing how bad the WWE has botched pushing them ever since
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a225hHXvfYI Big E turned 5! He's a big boy now! Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Reminder that the Shield was super over before being broken up and it's pretty amazing how bad the WWE has botched pushing them ever since They decided that Stoic, dark, cool Roman Reigns was going to be a jokey cartoon character like Cena. Which is a shite idea because Cena's been doing it for thirteen years and he still can't pull it off half the time. I think what's really funny with the benefit of hindsight is that if they just put it off for a year and kept with Daniel Bryan until he had to retire then Roman Reigns would probably have been accepted as the top babyface by now.
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Natural 20 posted:Sorry which Mania match was a heatless snoozefest again? Yet pretty much everyone who feuds with Miz ends up less over than before. But sure bring up this weird and inaccurate point.
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Natural 20 posted:Sorry which Mania match was a heatless snoozefest again? Yeah Miz really got Roman over when he dropped the IC, hosed off to do a movie, and immediately won the belt back on his return E: Beaten like a Miz opponent after Miztourage interference
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Reminder that the Shield was super over before being broken up and it's pretty amazing how bad the WWE has botched pushing them ever since Don't worry, I'm sure the Coach's stern words will surely be enough to finally win the fans over.
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Mar 2, 2018 02:32
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the miz would be a good manager, probably a great one, but, he's a wrestler, and he's terrible at wrestling
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Gonzo McFee posted:They decided that Stoic, dark, cool Roman Reigns was going to be a jokey cartoon character like Cena. Even RIGHT after the betrayal when Dean cut the face rearrangement promo that created my Ambrose love, Roman was pretty good. He had short, punchy lines that felt authentic and not Cena b-sides.
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Sunny got arrested again per PWI https://mobile.twitter.com/PWInsidercom/status/969369581495169024
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Natural 20 posted:Sorry which Mania match was a heatless snoozefest again? Miz vs. Cena had a good build on TV and the proposal was nice but that match loving sucked and it was the point where WrestleMania 33 started falling apart. Benne posted:Yeah Miz really got Roman over when he dropped the IC, hosed off to do a movie, and immediately won the belt back on his return Remember when Miz straight up said, in character, that he dropped the IC Title on purpose so it would be on the show while he was off filming a movie and then he immediately won it back and then won the rematch as well, suggesting that he wasn't lying? Good stuff. Got Roman super over.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Sunny got arrested again per PWI Her punch card entitles her to 1/2 price bail after her 20th arrest, allegedly.
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I hope they powerbombed that guy into a coma afterwards.
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You can tell Roman is actually great because he managed to not get killed by feuds with Bray Wyatt and The Miz.
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miz is good, idiots
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The Miz got Damien Sandow over. He got that dreadful Alex guy over. He really helped put Daniel Bryan over initially too. Echoing what other people said about Roman being average. He's the new HHH (worse than HHH of course) in that he's a 6 pushed as an 11 so looks like a 5
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Gonzo McFee posted:I think what's really funny with the benefit of hindsight is that if they just put it off for a year and kept with Daniel Bryan until he had to retire then Roman Reigns would probably have been accepted as the top babyface by now. Even more so if they turned him heel during that stint. Like, the "turn him heel" stuff is probably overstated but just take 8 months of the first two Roman megapush years and let the audience hate him like they wanted too. Lean into the smarmy poo poo talker stuff and it'll work back around to getting over organically, like they've done with so many other people over the years. I don't doubt that he could be getting the reactions they want in the role he has now had they handled him out of the gate in almost any other way than what they did. Just amazing, really.
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It's pretty awesome when the Always Bad starts pointing at a wrestler you've been over for a long time now.
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Alan_Shore posted:The Miz got Damien Sandow over. He got that dreadful Alex guy over. He really helped put Daniel Bryan over initially too. Damien Mizdow was originally supposed to be a one off joke. The Miz's gimmick was floundering at that point. Mizdow got so over that it became a full time thing and completely hijacked the Miz's gimmick. When Mizdow was off screen Miz was significantly less over than when he was on screen. So no, Sandow helped get Miz over as weird and backwards as it sounds today. The rest is equally nonsense.
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if they would have pulled the trigger on Roman at the BooTista royal rumble when the fans were genuinely in love with him, all this would be playing out differently
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GrimGypsy posted:if they would have pulled the trigger on Roman at the BooTista royal rumble when the group was genuinely in love with him, all this would be playing out differently Naaaaaah. As un-ready as Roman was in 2015, he was so much more un-ready in 2014 and that would've become abundantly clear.
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