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I wish there was enough interest and money to facilitate adopting some out of work real-sport commentator, put him through a FG crash course for a year or two and then let James loosen up, do color and act as a backstop for that guy. FGC play by play is hot garbage not so much because of gently caress ups or lack of knowledge (happens in every sport) but because they don't seem to know jack poo poo about how real pbp commentary is supposed to work. They're also all way too involved in the pro scene which makes their commentary too comprehensive for your average viewer. Edit: Someone out there just needs to take a much more professional approach to the whole thing. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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If you want to learn to do commentary watch Tony Romo. He is best in the business at being affable, predictive, and knowing when to shut up and let things unfold.
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Barudak posted:If you want to learn to do commentary watch Tony Romo. He is best in the business at being affable, predictive, and knowing when to shut up and let things unfold. The closest I've found to this is the few times Justin Wong ends up doing commentary. It's so loving good.
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Mar 2, 2018 18:58
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I would legit watch more tournaments if they got a Spanish soccer announcer to commentate
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Mar 2, 2018 19:00
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Another thing I think that's hurting commentary is that none of them seem to realize they need to be dedicated watchers and studiers waaaaaaay more than they need to be dedicated/good players.CaptCommy posted:The closest I've found to this is the few times Justin Wong ends up doing commentary. It's so loving good. Yep, the very cerebral players tend to be that way. I would guess it's because "reading" is so natural and instant for them that they're free to make actual commentary on what's happening and what players are doing rather than just saying what move just happened a second ago. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Mar 2, 2018 19:01
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Spanish Manlove posted:I would legit watch more tournaments if they got a Spanish soccer announcer to commentate ABAJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Mar 2, 2018 19:02
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Tbh my favorite commentator is Ryan Hunter because he sounds like he'd fit in commentating on baseball playoffs.
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Maybe Valve will
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Another thing I think that's hurting commentary is that none of them seem to realize they need to be dedicated watchers and studiers waaaaaaay more than they need to be dedicated/good players. Its extremely important in commentary to reliably do three things. 1) Explain the gameplan (theyre doing lots of shots from the perimeter early/hes just fishing with his light hoping to confirm into combo rather than a more complicated approach) 2) State what you thinks should be happening in light of whats occuring (they are having best success on shots over the left, they should isolate that defender/hes had a lot of success with the overhead, even if its not leading to a combo) 3) Be able to say “Absolutely Brilliant” when something phenomenal happens that you werent expecting/had no idea was possible
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Mar 2, 2018 19:09
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I don't really like any sports commentary and I'm totally fine with fgc commentary that's just people saying Oh poo poo!
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Mar 2, 2018 19:10
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I like yipes screaming basket ball players names thanks
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Mar 2, 2018 19:12
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James Chen goes too far in the other direction, explaining super basic concepts in excruciating detail
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Mar 2, 2018 19:17
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It's hard to PBP a fighting game, especially something like DBFZ/Marvel, because you don't get enough time or sometimes enough information to be informative. The downtime is usually during combos and you don't have much to say about those unless there's a gimmick to them (like reset points). Plus, big tournaments already go for the approach you're proposing. The YELL poo poo approach tends to be limited to locals like NLBC, which are basically the FGC equivalent of big players doing soloq/scrims. Unless what you're really trying to say is that you want even more mid-30s white dudes with dad senses of humor doing the same voice and the same calls everyone else does.
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Draxamus posted:As much as some people dislike Biscuits, I think he actually has some strong DBFZ commentary when they've had him on streams. Same with GG. Much prefer him over Yipes style commentary. The combination of Yipes and Chris Matrix is a godsend and the FGC would be worse off without them. That being said, if you want to learn more about the game they are not going to do you any favors. Me personally, I do not really watch streams to learn so much as to be entertained. If I wanna learn there's plenty of more useful and valuable resources than listening to the commentary on a stream.
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I'll be at CEO winterfest tomorrow playing sfv, DBZ, and unist. If you're gonna be there, let me know!
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Every fighting game commentary should be just like Majin Obama during Evo Japan.
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Real hurthling! posted:I like yipes screaming basket ball players names thanks
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punk rebel ecks posted:Every fighting game commentary should be just like Majin Obama during Evo Japan. I can't believe they used the loving "#MeToo" clip in their sizzle reel but they just bleep Majin out. Like what the gently caress. FanaticalMilk fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:Every fighting game commentary should be just like Majin Obama during Evo Japan. I think Majin Obama and TastySteve GG commentary was some of the best. Good example of being both hype AND insightful. You can have both! And if you saw the DBFZ commentary for Winter Brawl Top 8, you can also be not particularly insightful AND antihype.
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I loved the EVO Japan commentary where they were betting cup o noodles on the fights
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thorsilver posted:This sounds awesome, especially since I just ordered Chronicles yesterday like other fighting game single player modes its inoffensive at best and doesn't really integrate that well with actual game mechanics at least the tutorial mode is actually playable unlike PPT and the training mode lets you rewind your chains
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Hope the netcode's decent on it. Is the RPG mode worth checking out?
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That recent t7 event with 5 people on mics and a tasty steve soundboard was the greatest tourney I've watched in ages
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Barudak posted:If you want to learn to do commentary watch Tony Romo. He is best in the business at being affable, predictive, and knowing when to shut up and let things unfold. I like Romo but now that I've heard Pardon my Take make fun of all the noises he makes when there's a close call that's all I can focus on.
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FWord and Logan are great tbh. Not that I'm biased, most of the other UKFGC commentary is dire.
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Spuckuk posted:FWord and Logan are great tbh. I do notice that most of the top players are either from Japan, Korea, or USA. Europe seems underrepresented. I wonder why that is?
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Spanish Manlove posted:But second hand Ps4 pads are only like $30 Nobody's gonna buy a pad if they're not already serious about the genre. Most people expect to be able to play with a regular gamepad, and if that's not possible that's a failure on the game's part 
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Elman posted:Nobody's gonna buy a pad if they're not already serious about the genre. ...it's a PS4 pad. A regular PS4 pad. If you have a current-gen console you have a fighting game-capable pad. Hell, the 360 pad sucks but if you had a PS3 you have a fighting game-capable pad.
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Elman posted:Nobody's gonna buy a pad if they're not already serious about the genre. *woosh*
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dragon enthusiast posted:if healthy online community is what you want all the JP players are on Chronicles 3DS now cause the frame data in that game is the most like Puyo Puyo 2. also they added some good quality of life options like being able to set lobbies to arbitrary wincounts so they can run round robin leagues with FT50 matches what frame data differences are there between Chronicles and PPT? I mainly ask out of curiosity the hell if I'm buying a 3DS for that
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Elman posted:Nobody's gonna buy a pad if they're not already serious about the genre.
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If you're really fancy you can splurge and get a fighting commander for $40 new on amazon or likely even cheaper on the second hand market.
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There probably hasn't been a new fighting game since like Street Fighter 4 that playing on stick gives you an advantage in, and plenty of pad players did great in that game with some of the highest execution characters. If you are getting into fighting games within the last few years there's no reason to buy or learn stick unless you're learning an old game or are living in Japan and playing in arcades.
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Guess I got told  Fair enough then, looks like I'm out of date.I do need to buy a ps4 controller, though. Xbox d-pads are still really bad.
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In Training posted:That recent t7 event with 5 people on mics and a tasty steve soundboard was the greatest tourney I've watched in ages This was godlike
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:what frame data differences are there between Chronicles and PPT? it doesn't affect the 3ds version of PPT, only ps4/xbone/switch/pc as part of an effort to buff puyo cause tetris was extremely busted on the last gen versions. basically the amount of time it takes for a puyo to settle after input lockout was shortened (I forgot the exact frame data but it's on the internet somewhere) which meant a) risky play was encouraged cause you can place puyos down faster to fix bad chains, and b) attacking was discouraged over turtling cause you could build counter chains on reaction idk why you would get ppt 3ds ever though, chronicles has all the nice online features while pp20th has way more single player content (even more than chronicles)
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ROFL Octopus posted:James Chen goes too far in the other direction, explaining super basic concepts in excruciating detail But the puns, man. THE PUNS.
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:There probably hasn't been a new fighting game since like Street Fighter 4 that playing on stick gives you an advantage in, and plenty of pad players did great in that game with some of the highest execution characters. What if I think arcade stick is the best designed controller ever made
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Unist is good. I like to just mash into launcher and then mash into kd and its good Thank you soft circle french bread
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Smoking Crow posted:What if I think arcade stick is the best designed controller ever made I like the stick because it reminds me of when I was a baby in a Coney Island arcade, mashing buttons in MVC2.
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