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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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sneakyfrog posted:how do you rice out a gti? 
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Mar 10, 2018 00:16
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Mar 10, 2018 00:19
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Meh, VW NAR colors are so boring.
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Mar 10, 2018 00:36
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Pretty sure GTI owners only care about other GTI owners if they are both driving stanced cars
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Mar 10, 2018 00:37
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Etrips posted:Meh, VW NAR colors are so boring. Seriously. i would have bought a 3rd st saints purple car at a premium if it were offered.
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Mar 10, 2018 00:47
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why_i_miss_rwd.mp4Warbird posted:I can understand the appeal, but that would squarely fall into stark terror for me. Might be fun to try and learn to drift though.
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Mar 10, 2018 01:23
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FL equivalent is basically skidpan driving, wetted or slicked up asphalt
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Mar 10, 2018 02:00
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I work in claims and just about every accident I see in icy or snowy conditions is a four-wheel drive vehicle. It's seriously 80 or 90% of the ice and snow claims I see. People who assume they can control their cars normally in icy conditions are the reason those accidents happen. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Mar 10, 2018 |
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Mar 10, 2018 03:37
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Eifert Posting posted:I work in claims and just about every accident I see in icy or snowy conditions is a four-wheel drive vehicle. This. Holy crap, I can't count the number of SUVs I see in ditches in the winter.
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Mar 10, 2018 03:47
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Four wheel go isn't always four wheel stop, it seems!
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Mar 10, 2018 04:17
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Eifert Posting posted:I work in claims and just about every accident I see in icy or snowy conditions is a four-wheel drive vehicle. One of the bigger Swedish insurance companies found the same thing. Their conclusion was that 4WD masks the bad conditions of the road, and makes the drives overly confident.
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Mar 10, 2018 08:13
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My gf drives a Toyota Venza and I honestly prefer my FiST in the snow. I can feel what's going on with the wheels much better. Plus, ebrake slides in empty parking lots is the most fun poo poo ever.
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Mar 10, 2018 08:33
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Eifert Posting posted:I work in claims and just about every accident I see in icy or snowy conditions is a four-wheel drive vehicle. A lot of people without 4WD/AWD just stay home when the weather turns to poo poo.
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Mar 10, 2018 13:28
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tetrapyloctomy posted:A lot of people without 4WD/AWD just stay home when the weather turns to poo poo. And a lot of people with 4WD/AWD assume they don't need winter tires.
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Mar 10, 2018 14:06
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I used to have an FRS on blizzaks and before that an RX-8 on blizzaks. Both of those cars were great in the winter. Since then I've had a fiesta ST on blizzaks during winter time, and a GLI on all seasons. Of those 4, the only one that has felt unsafe to drive in winter was the GLI. Winter tires matter a lot.
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Mar 10, 2018 14:32
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My goal on upgrading from the Mustang to the Golf R is to lower my chances of getting completely loving stuck on a small incline or whatever. I want to be as confident when accelerating as I already am in the Mustang while braking.
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Mar 10, 2018 14:46
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PT6A posted:And a lot of people with 4WD/AWD assume they don't need winter tires. Ain't that the truth. To be fair, I never once got the Impreza stuck anywhere even when I had the stock tires, but goddamn was it a game-changer when I bought Altimax Arctics, and going to a Forester with Blizzaks was another significant step up.
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Mar 10, 2018 15:53
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I have Sottozeros on but no matter what you do you just can't accelerate in winter here. Feels like roads are either wet or snowy a lot of the time and it makes me want to switch from FWD to an AWD system. Hell even a RWD car would theoretically be better as the rear gets loaded up when you're accelerating.
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Mar 10, 2018 16:41
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Midjack posted:Four wheel go isn't always four wheel stop, it seems! It can definitely give you more control over a drift type situation, but that requires throttling out rather than stomping the brakes, which means most non-enthusiast drivers aren't ever going to make use of that ability. In basically all situations where normal drivers operate AWD does nothing except help you accelerate faster and drive deeper in to the soft stuff before getting stuck. That of course doesn't even get in to how most AWD systems on modern general purpose passenger vehicles are more like FWDs that occasionally fart some power at the rear wheels, maybe, if you're spinning the front enough. There's a reason aftermarket AWD controllers are a thing for Golf Rs and the like, the stock configuration is optimized for fuel economy rather than performance.
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Mar 10, 2018 20:55
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So I'm considering a slightly used Focus RS, which look to be around $30k usd with under 10k miles on autotrader etc. I leased a 2014 fiesta St and I really, really miss it. I'm leasing a base Jetta 1.4t now and It is great in terms of practically and gas mileage (40mpg highway, never ever got below 30 even when beating on it), but it's painfully boring, even with a stick. I really only drive during the weekends since I commute to my job by train, so I only need a fun, semi practical car for backroad bombing, autox, track days, road trips, and going to my vacation house 2 hours away on most weekends. My other consideration is a 996 or 997 911. Budget is absolutely max of 30k. Is the focus RS worth it? I would probably chip it and throw in a most compliant/comfortable suspension as well.
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Mar 11, 2018 02:52
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Full disclosure, I own a 2017 Focus RS. Yes it’s “just a Focus”. Yes it will cause your spine to shatter and come sliding out of your rear end in a top hat. Yes they are expensive as gently caress and very hard to come by. Yes every boy racer in a Civic, GTI, and WRX will try to race you. Drift Mode is more of a curiosity than useful. That being said: It’s a loving riot to drive. It handles like it’s on rails and when it does get tail happy it’s totally predictable and fun on a bun. It’s got a nice fat torque curve and some basic tuning turns it into a monster. It’s the kind of car that makes you want to come up with an excuse to drive it. Launch control will embarrass other cars off the line and leave you with a poo poo eating grin on your face. It truly is a special car and nobody knows if we’ll ever get another one here in North America.
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Mar 11, 2018 03:44
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Doesn't the 2018 get a lsd somewhere on the rs?
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Mar 11, 2018 03:52
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Voltage posted:So I'm considering a slightly used Focus RS, which look to be around $30k usd with under 10k miles on autotrader etc. I leased a 2014 fiesta St and I really, really miss it. I'm leasing a base Jetta 1.4t now and It is great in terms of practically and gas mileage (40mpg highway, never ever got below 30 even when beating on it), but it's painfully boring, even with a stick. Assuming the roads are smooth wherever you are, the RS is a blast. The suspension is borderline too stiff to be livable for a road car in the Detroit metro for me. I've only had one person try to race me in the 13 months I've had the car, and it was a dude in his 60s in a 40 year old trans-am. (It went about how you'd expect)
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Mar 11, 2018 03:58
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Yeah the 2018’s get a Quaife LSD on the front axle. By all accounts it makes the car feel more neutral. Personally I’ve never felt any torque steer at all in my RS, and it does feel like a rear wheel drive car more than an AWD car at times.
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Mar 11, 2018 04:00
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Man 10k off MSRP for an RS with less than 10k miles is a screaming deal for fun:price. Makes me worried about the long term trade in value on mine.
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Mar 11, 2018 04:02
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That should help in autocross a lot and pull out of rear sliding out. I should get my veloster back in another week or two and experience a quaife.
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Mar 11, 2018 04:07
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Has anyone used the RS in the snow very much? Seems like it would be just as good as the WRX/STI I see up in the mountains. I am guessing it is probably great with snow tires.
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Mar 11, 2018 15:45
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Kick-Puncher posted:Has anyone used the RS in the snow very much? Seems like it would be just as good as the WRX/STI I see up in the mountains. I am guessing it is probably great with snow tires. I drove it through a snowstorm with 4-5" untouched snow on the freeway. 50-60mph the whole way with no issues with my Blizzaks.
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Mar 11, 2018 15:59
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Kick-Puncher posted:Has anyone used the RS in the snow very much? Seems like it would be just as good as the WRX/STI I see up in the mountains. I am guessing it is probably great with snow tires. Yeah I got the winter wheel package with the Pilot Alpins and it’s a beast in the snow. Never had any issue here in northern Indiana.
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Mar 11, 2018 16:33
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Taking the RS out on fresh powder is fun as hell. I have a pair of LM-001's on mine and it feels planted and confident, even during slides.
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Mar 11, 2018 16:56
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tetrapyloctomy posted:A lot of people without 4WD/AWD just stay home when the weather turns to poo poo. One of my cousin's kids (well, he's 30 now) owns a V6 Mustang that he's had worked up (repaint with stripes, hood pins, etc) to look like a V8. He refuses to make the 1.5 mile commute to work in their little rural Michigan town in any kind of snow because "it sucks in the snow." He has never put snow tires on it. So he bought a POS 4wd truck that regularly dies on him instead.
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Mar 11, 2018 18:25
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I believe it is time to snipe a set of FoST cloth Recaros from eBay for the FiST. I plan on moving the airbags across. Doesn't seem like that much of a pain in the rear end and stupid cheap. Am I wrong?
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Mar 14, 2018 02:52
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I've seen a few threads of people doing it and it does seem relatively easy if you can work a wrench. I've been tempted on and off by doing the same, I want the recaros but I hate leather. On that note did the seats change in the newer model FiSTs? I sat in one with the recaros at the auto show recently and I fit, barely but I felt comfortable, where in previous years they felt tight. I certainly haven't lost any weight, I've actually probably gained a bit in that time.
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Mar 14, 2018 03:26
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Could have been a demo car that’s has a lot of butts in it. They definitely break in.
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Mar 14, 2018 03:47
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PaintVagrant posted:Could have been a demo car that’s has a lot of butts in it. They definitely break in. That would make sense, but the previous times I've experienced the FiST Recaros have all been either at the same Cleveland auto show or in Detroit, where presumably many butts have cycled through before mine arrived. I've only ever felt the FoST models in truly new condition.
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Mar 14, 2018 04:16
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is there anything i can do to get the really nice bmw brake pedal feel on my gti? VWs seem to have very sensitive brake pedals
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Mar 14, 2018 04:28
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Kick-Puncher posted:Has anyone used the RS in the snow very much? Seems like it would be just as good as the WRX/STI I see up in the mountains. I am guessing it is probably great with snow tires. It’s planted as gently caress in the snow with proper tires. It’s actually hard to break loose even when trying. I did have some massive understeer on turn in at times and had to left foot trail-brake to get past it. But for regular driving in the snow it’s fuckjng perfect. I even did a launch in the snow and it hooked happily. Edit: Also I’ve had a 2018 for a month or so now and will report back on the LSD after auto-x this weekend.
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Mar 14, 2018 10:49
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BraveUlysses posted:is there anything i can do to get the really nice bmw brake pedal feel on my gti? VWs seem to have very sensitive brake pedals SS brake lines usually make brake pedal feel much better/firmer. Can't say I've tried it on this car but I've loved the upgrade on anything I've ever put them on.
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Mar 14, 2018 15:20
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BMW/Porsche brakes just have a ton of feel and modulation..... VWs are overboosted and grabby.
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Mar 14, 2018 17:09
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KidDynamite posted:It’s planted as gently caress in the snow with proper tires. It’s actually hard to break loose even when trying. I did have some massive understeer on turn in at times and had to left foot trail-brake to get past it. But for regular driving in the snow it’s fuckjng perfect. I even did a launch in the snow and it hooked happily. I’m interested in knowing how much difference the LSD makes. I’ve been thinking of getting a Wave-trac diff, so let me know what you think of the Quaife setup.
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