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Fister Roboto posted:If someone accidentally mouses over a spoiler tag and stays on it long enough to actually read anything of substance, that's entirely on them. I can understand not wanting to be spoiled, but this is ridiculously hypersensitive. The OP says shut up about the books. Go to the book thread or whatever.
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Mar 11, 2018 09:29
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Fister Roboto posted:Here's a better idea: don't get upset about properly tagged spoilers. No. While we're all helpfully passing out suggestions here's one: read the loving OP.
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Mar 11, 2018 11:28
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Fister Roboto posted:Here's a better idea: don't get upset about properly tagged spoilers. AlternateAccount posted:Putting this right up top this time, since last year it got a little stupid. Or just read the dang OP. Anyway, I need more Avasarala, Amos and Alex in my life. Also Anderson Dawes. And Bobbie. And belter-bro whose name I can't recall. ...basically everybody but Holden, I guess!
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Mar 11, 2018 17:15
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ATP_Power posted:I'm just worried that Diogo is going to take up the slingshot club life as a break from being an OPA rumbler. diogo crush rear end to dust
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Mar 11, 2018 17:23
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spoiler: there are books
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Mar 11, 2018 17:24
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Phi230 posted:spoiler: there are books Dude can you please use spoiler tags? Or better yet just leave it out of the thread?
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Mar 11, 2018 17:26
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I'm totally fine with not talking about the books. I just think it's extremely stupid that people can't even handle spoiler tags.
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Mar 11, 2018 17:35
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I mean, the OP says to "be cool" about book spoilers and the TVIV rules don't ban these kinds of discussions, but if you all want to be huge cry babies about even properly labeled spoilers for a show whose source material has been out for nearly a decade, put THAT in the OP and state that it is probateable and convince the mods to make two threads like GoT: one for idiots who have no self-control and a good one for normals. It's kind of like that part in book 4 when Holden there is no part in book 4, if you don't want to be spoiled and are reading this you are the reason we can't have nice things. The alternative is we can come up with reasonable ground rules about spoiler tags and be adults about it, but don't pretend like two-thirds of the thread can just waltz over to TBB and poo poo up the book thread with show speculation. 
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Mar 11, 2018 17:44
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Or just don't be an rear end, and keep book discussion to the book thread.
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Mar 11, 2018 17:58
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Cojawfee posted:Or just don't be an rear end, and keep book discussion to the book thread. I spoilered something that was in the trailer, you can clearly see it.
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Mar 11, 2018 18:02
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:That certainly seems likely since we saw ~some~ kind of planet-shattering explosion in the trailer and it seems unlikely that it would be Miller's World. I think it's way more likely to be Holden's vision of the demise of the Protomolecule creators
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Mar 11, 2018 18:25
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Let's also not pretend that TBB thread is for the show...
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Mar 11, 2018 19:11
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Avasarala is Julie Mao after the protomolecule alters her and sends her back in time. E: spoiler.
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Mar 11, 2018 19:18
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Fister Roboto posted:I just think it's extremely stupid that people can't even handle spoiler tags. Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:convince the mods to make two threads
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Mar 11, 2018 21:12
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Here is a spoiler thread. Mainly because I liked the title idea I had too much.
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Mar 11, 2018 21:32
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Fister Roboto posted:oh no people are having a mild discussion about something
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Mar 13, 2018 02:51
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Did the smash rear end kid's uncle flinging rocks at mars like a giant shotgun ever get brought up again?
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Mar 13, 2018 03:06
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We can talk about more practical things, like if I'm in Canada, is there a decent way to watch it without a cable sub? Anything that's in 4K?
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Mar 13, 2018 03:06
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Milo and POTUS posted:Did the smash rear end kid's uncle flinging rocks at mars like a giant shotgun ever get brought up again? If I recall correctly, he was aiming for an MCRN ship, and it ended poorly for him.
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Mar 13, 2018 03:13
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He winged the martians and they shot a torpedo at him.
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Mar 13, 2018 03:33
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yeah, the Martians killed him and Diogo was thereby radicalized and became an OPA militant.
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Mar 13, 2018 03:47
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uber_stoat posted:yeah, the Martians killed him and Diogo was thereby radicalized and became an OPA militant. Which makes perfect sense: Earthcorp S-H kicks him off of his water racket, and de facto off his home Ceres. Then the Martian Navy essentially sentences him and his uncle to death for a paperwork violation, leaving him floating in the black for who-knows-how-long. If humans live on a planet, they seem to figure out a way to screw Diogo... Who wouldn't go all neck-tat OPA? 
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Mar 13, 2018 04:44
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In a later scene (I think it's after they get on the Tachi, and Alex is watching the Martian news) there's a report on in the background referencing Diogo's uncle getting killed but it's framed as the Martian frigate being attacked by OPA terrorists and them destroying the ship.
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Mar 13, 2018 05:17
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Diogo should have stayed away from the Auga.
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Mar 13, 2018 05:52
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AirborneNinja posted:He winged the martians and they shot a torpedo at him. Was it the very same episode? God drat I must have missed it completely. Twice!
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Mar 13, 2018 06:35
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Milo and POTUS posted:Was it the very same episode? God drat I must have missed it completely. Twice! This is because for all its greatness The Expanse can't figure out how to make its muddy looking space scenes legible.
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Mar 13, 2018 08:24
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At least in Season 1 a lot of stuff is really dark and hard to parse, I don't recall season 2 having any issues.
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Mar 13, 2018 08:54
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PriorMarcus posted:This is because for all its greatness The Expanse can't figure out how to make its muddy looking space scenes legible. I think the documentary-style SFX doesn't work as well on The Expanse as they did on  because that was the whole cinematography gimmick for Galactica. Since they do more traditional camera work in most of the show it just doesn't gel all of the time.
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Mar 13, 2018 21:28
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NZAmoeba posted:We can talk about more practical things, like if I'm in Canada, is there a decent way to watch it without a cable sub? Anything that's in 4K? noooope for better or for worse BSG seems to have set off a need for a lot of sci fi shows to use shaky cam in space scenes. It led to some pretty memorable scenes though: resurrection ship part 2, escaping new caprica, the resurrection hub. too bad about the final episodes making GBS threads the bed. Dreylad fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Mar 13, 2018 |
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Mar 13, 2018 22:18
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Dreylad posted:noooope Final episodes making GBS threads the bed is hardly the fault of shaky-cam though. Not sure what Expanse should do for space combat scenes. The books always conveyed a sense of claustrophobia and lack of solid situational awareness. You got the perspective of the crew members dealing with the limited intel they can get off sensors, not a Star Wars WW2 aerial battle recreation or BSG shaky-cam showing how the vipers are doing. Ideally, space scenes should be from the perspective of people outside the ship, like Miller's view from Eros or Prax's view of the battle above Ganymeade. As annoying as the scene was otherwise (HOLDEN JUST SO ANGRY!!!!), the Roci hunting down the protomonster was pretty well done. Of course, for a remote space battle, having everything be dictated by Alex would be pretty boring and come across as hilariously cheap. So...yeah. Get used to shakycam I guess.
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Mar 13, 2018 23:14
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I would not call the Expanses cinematography shaky-cam in the slightest. https://i.imgur.com/XJvkJH7.gifv
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Mar 13, 2018 23:41
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AirborneNinja posted:I would not call the Expanses cinematography shaky-cam in the slightest. Exactly what I was thinking when I was reading the shaky can critiques. Like... not really? Sometimes the zoom effect they use is a little.. weird, but shaky cam is like Blair Witch or Cloverfield poo poo.
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Mar 14, 2018 00:17
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Yeah the only time I remember thinking the camerawork was a little shoddy is in the S1 finale, which is my least favorite episode in the entire series. I just figured they ran out of budget
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Mar 14, 2018 00:22
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Season 2 is way better agreed, I just think of the donnager fight sequence feeling pretty incoherent.
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Mar 14, 2018 00:26
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Pander posted:Not sure what Expanse should do for space combat scenes. The books always conveyed a sense of claustrophobia and lack of solid situational awareness. You got the perspective of the crew members dealing with the limited intel they can get off sensors, not a Star Wars WW2 aerial battle recreation or BSG shaky-cam showing how the vipers are doing. If they were following the books' portrayal of combat, the distances and speeds involved would be too great for a third party looking out a window or something to see much of anything besides maybe some drive plumes. There are a couple of instances of close-quarters combat where things are (relatively) nearby and moving in similar directions, but most of the time, even on one of the combatant ships, naked-eye observation would pretty much go from "everything's fine so far" to "oh poo poo everything's in pieces" in the blink of an eye. I think there are ways to make that sort of long-distance battle compelling, but it's hard to make it look as engaging as a dogfight.
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Mar 14, 2018 01:21
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Toast Museum posted:If they were following the books' portrayal of combat, the distances and speeds involved would be too great for a third party looking out a window or something to see much of anything besides maybe some drive plumes. There are a couple of instances of close-quarters combat where things are (relatively) nearby and moving in similar directions, but most of the time, even on one of the combatant ships, naked-eye observation would pretty much go from "everything's fine so far" to "oh poo poo everything's in pieces" in the blink of an eye. I think there are ways to make that sort of long-distance battle compelling, but it's hard to make it look as engaging as a dogfight. The sad thing is I find it much more compelling to view those sequences from the character's perspective, making the "how to render it" problem moot. The expanse has plenty of CQB set pieces where they can do more traditional pewpew. Trying to shoehorn the sfx shots into everything else is what makes it jarring for me.
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Mar 14, 2018 01:24
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ShakyCam in BSG led to the best moment in Sci-Fi history. ZOOM IN ON THE COCK
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Mar 14, 2018 13:27
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rewatching season 1, what was Jules-Pierre Mao planning to do with the stealth ships? Before the protomolecule became his obsession. Was he planning to build a private space empire with his own military?
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double nine posted:rewatching season 1, what was Jules-Pierre Mao planning to do with the stealth ships? Before the protomolecule became his obsession. Was he planning to build a private space empire with his own military? I think he was simply planning to sell them to Earth. Earth had been illegally building stealth ships ready for war. The Protomolecule changed plans and Mao used the ships he had built.
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