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lamey_whinehouse posted:i've been going back and rewatching Season 5 of the simpsons and i don't think it's nearly as grounded and lacking of "wacky hijinx" that ya'll remember I've been listening to the Talking Simpsons podcast recently (Which is pretty good and I'd definitely recommend), and something they've brought up a few times as they work through the episodes is that a lot of the complaints about newer episodes-the wacky hijinks, disregard of continuity, Homer being an rear end in a top hat who constantly gets new jobs-are just as applicable to the 'golden years,' and Season 5 and 6 in particular when Dave Mirkin was showrunner. But because the writing and animation were so much tighter, ridiculous episodes like Deep Space Homer and Bart Gets An Elephant work because they're so goddamn funny, while the later episodes that ran with those kinds of plots failed because they didn't have the same quality or quantity of jokes to hold them up.
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Iron Crowned posted:I think the bigger issue with Skylar is they didn't really know what to do with her (or Walt Jr. for that matter). In the beginning they're Walt's entire motivation for getting into the meth business, but she's really just there. The thing is her ending was pretty in theme, and I think it would have worked better if that happened around season 3 to highlight just how destructive Walt had become.
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Besesoth posted:The point was that in the eyes of the alt-right, Walter was a white drug kingpin, so he was a brilliant, rebellious hero who was unjustly brought down by the system, while Avon and Stringer were black drug kingpins, so they were mindless thugs who got what was coming to them. I meant the alt right that worship WW wouldn't extend that admiration for Stringer or Avon.
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BiggerBoat posted:I meant the alt right that worship WW wouldn't extend that admiration for Stringer or Avon. So we agree?
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Mar 12, 2018 17:07
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Listening to an Economist article and they just used the term “streets ahead” when comparing countries. Was that a real term before Community or is Pierce Hawthorne leaking into British business magazines?
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Mar 14, 2018 15:41
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Krispy Wafer posted:Listening to an Economist article and they just used the term “streets ahead” when comparing countries. It's a pretty common idiom in the UK and Ireland.
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Mar 14, 2018 15:48
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Is this like when I was surprised hella existed before South Park?
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GrandpaPants posted:Is this like when I was surprised hella existed before South Park? I looked it up before I even posted and Urban Dictionary says it’s a Community creation. The Queen’s English can be weird, but I didn’t realize it was streets ahead of other dialects.
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Mar 14, 2018 16:14
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Krispy Wafer posted:I looked it up before I even posted and Urban Dictionary says it’s a Community creation. As a Brit I can confirm I have been saying it for a few decades now.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I looked it up before I even posted and Urban Dictionary says it’s a Community creation. I don't know it Urban Dictionary is really a reliable source.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Listening to an Economist article and they just used the term “streets ahead” when comparing countries. IIRC, Community's use came about to mock a Twitter user that used the phrase after trolling Dan Harmon about how Big Bang Theory was "streets ahead" of Community.
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Mar 14, 2018 16:46
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Garrand posted:Well yeah, he was unable to afford healthcare and after that realization he picked himself up by his bootstraps and became a super badass. And they didn't notice that this shining example of How Alt-Right Philosophy Really Works then got bent over a barrel and robbed by people exactly like them?
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Len posted:I don't know it Urban Dictionary is really a reliable source. My subscription to Idioms Monthly lapsed so I’m doing the best with what I have.
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Mar 14, 2018 17:19
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Community was too "meta" to ever invent anything of its own.
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Mar 14, 2018 17:37
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mojo1701a posted:IIRC, Community's use came about to mock a Twitter user that used the phrase after trolling Dan Harmon about how Big Bang Theory was "streets ahead" of Community. that's petty enough that i'd doubt its truth if it was anyone else besides dan harmon
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Brother Entropy posted:that's petty enough that i'd doubt its truth if it was anyone else besides dan harmon Jeff Winger was supposed to go on a date with, and then cancelled, a girl that had the same username, Gwynnifer. I forget the episode, but he literally calls up "Gwynnifer".
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Mar 14, 2018 19:22
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mojo1701a posted:Jeff Winger was supposed to go on a date with, and then cancelled, a girl that had the same username, Gwynnifer. I forget the episode, but he literally calls up "Gwynnifer". It's the "Annie lost a pen" bottle episode. (IIRC Jeff also admits later that "Gwynnifer" is the name he uses for Britta when he's hooking up with her so the rest of the group won't know.)
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I hope that Dan Harmon can someday find peace
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Mar 14, 2018 21:08
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Wheat Loaf posted:No, it's in an episode where the A-plot is Marge getting into an MMORPG and discovering that Bart is a griefer; the B-plot is Homer refereeing Lisa's football game and Ronaldo shows up largely out of the blue to give him advice, which causes him to upset Lisa, then at the end of his appearance, Ronaldo says, "Another family ruined by Ronaldo!" and flies away. It was one of those, "Why is [celebrity] even here?" I haven't aged well. Who the hell is Ronaldo?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo_(Brazilian_footballer)
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I liked that one, but I find the best Simpsons celebrity cameos are the ones where they act like complete weirdos.
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Mar 14, 2018 22:28
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Inescapable Duck posted:I liked that one, but I find the best Simpsons celebrity cameos are the ones where they act like complete weirdos. It's just badly voiced-acted (and, yes, I realise that's not fair given that English isn't his first language).
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bagshotrow posted:The episode of the Simpsons where Homer thinks Bart is gay aged pretty badly; Homer's bigotry didn't seem that extreme at the time, but in 2017 he just comes off as a complete bastard. At least the moral was that Homer was wrong. I saw a recent episode with a brief throw away joke scene where Homer is all like "it's totally okay if your gay" only to be super relieved and excited when Barts indicates that he's not gay. I can't remember which episode it was and if you search for homophobic moments in the Simpsons the only thing that shows up is one billion articles about how progressive and good "Homer's Phobia" is. Oh and when Smithers takes medicine to cure his gay in that future episode is really weird to watch. And these are both well after John Waters seemingly helped him get rid of his Homophobia. https://youtu.be/ZJkwy-C3BYU?t=58s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a416pmOYEY "Ew"
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Mar 15, 2018 00:52
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You can’t blame him for his homerphobia
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Mar 15, 2018 00:59
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It’s funny that on top of the endless Simpsons episodes where the plot is just “Homer’s new job” there are a whole subclass of episodes now where the plot is just “Homer’s new hidden talent.”
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It definitely didn't age well but Homerphobia still has my favorite Simpsons moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uOBveFKdGs "We work hard, we play hard." That or Bart's April fool's prank.
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Has Homer's Phobia actually aged that badly? There are tons who people who still react the same way to the idea that their child might be gay. I guess some of the depictions might be overblown, but I figure that's part of the joke. The bit at the steel mill is still one of my favorites. e: "Oh, be nice!" gets me every fuckin time. SpacePig has a new favorite as of 02:50 on Mar 15, 2018 |
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Mar 15, 2018 02:48
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Didn't Tracy Morgan and/or Kevin Hart "joke" that they would beat the hell out of their kid if they turned out gay or something to that effect?
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I don't know about Kevin Hart but Tracy Morgan definitely went on a homophobic rant while doing a comedy set only a couple of years ago.
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GrandpaPants posted:Didn't Tracy Morgan and/or Kevin Hart "joke" that they would beat the hell out of their kid if they turned out gay or something to that effect? I think Hart's "joke" was about how he was scared of having a gay son (still lovely). Morgan straight up said that he would stab his son to death if he came out.
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Mar 15, 2018 04:18
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Make sure to watch Tracy's new show on TBS! The commercial for which has a prominent scene where his character is baffled by the existence of gay black men! (Who talk in high pitched camp voices.)
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Samuringa posted:It definitely didn't age well but Homerphobia still has my favorite Simpsons moment This part is loving hilarious and I stand by that.
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I'll always remember the night Homer's Phobia first aired. I was on a Boy Scout skiing trip. There was a lot of grumbling from the adults afterwards about the moral degeneracy of Homer learning to tolerate a gay man. It was one of the first times I realized baby boomers were lovely people.
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I still remember how hard I laughed at that broadcast. That episode is good and pure because it implies there are enough homosexual people in Springfield for there to be both gay and straight industries. You’d think Smithers would have had a better time of it.
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I always liked the idea Smithers had zero sexuality, he was just unfathomably committed to this one ugly evil dude. But then we wouldnt have had Burns naive about Smithers bring on an all male holiday, so
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Smithers started out as kinda basic loyal lackey, then obsessive, then Burns-sexual, and hinted more and more at being gay with various social signifiers of the times (being into Malibu Stacy dolls might have... other implications in the age of bronies) until they stopped being subtle, though he's kinda remained with more or less his original personality nonetheless. Dude can be gay and also really into Mr Burns. Also, did like that the end of the episode has the gay dude (who's also noted to be basically an extroverted nerd, iirc) joke about how it was a bit much to have to save Homer's life to get Homer to accept him. Interestingly, later episodes have hinted Homer may be bisexual. (also possibly Grandpa)
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Krispy Wafer posted:I still remember how hard I laughed at that broadcast. That episode is good and pure because it implies there are enough homosexual people in Springfield for there to be both gay and straight industries. "This lesbian bar has no fire escapes! Enjoy your death trap, ladies."
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Brother Entropy posted:"This lesbian bar has no fire escapes! Enjoy your death trap, ladies." "What was her problem?" Makes me laugh even though i know it ages poorly.
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Pick posted:This part is loving hilarious and I stand by that. I like this episode mostly because it starts from a place of absurdity -- Homer's toxic belief that homosexuality is a learned behavior -- and then completely fucks with him until he finally realizes that humans are humans. Seriously, a gay steel mill? It's hilarious because it seemingly exists to just torture Homer which is well-deserved. Plus, this is the episode that introduced me to camp, which I'm eternally grateful for.
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Parts of it haven't aged well, but it approaches things from the right direction and it's aged better than any other mainstream take on the issue I can think of from the mid-to-late Nineties.
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