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Twat le Piss posted:lol if you’re such a wet blanket that you actually have an ignore list
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Catte's got a very good point, tbh.
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Mar 15, 2018 23:39
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Wait just a goddamn minute. Derek is black?!
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Mar 15, 2018 23:41
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run away run away https://i.imgur.com/kV9PPpv.mp4
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Admiral Snackbar posted:Wait just a goddamn minute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v4CFjrjBxc
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Dark Off posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCnYoFNtqnY&t=1975s another ship sale before vulcan sale even ends. constellation phoenix and Several other ships. (I’m glad you pointed that out. Even if it risks derailing the thread from ritual slapfighting...  )Yeah, that does seem noteworthy. I only just started watching ATV but Chris and Sandi hit the ground running as the episode begins with tag-team turbo schlepping, too. The classic Ben & Sandi era ATV was notably lackadaisical. Breezy and often non-substantive with no real sense of urgency. RTV was an impromptu hangout that hit Wing Commander arcana and other fanboy-only material as often as it brushed off tougher questions about dates “We don’t do ‘When?’ questions guys...” Yet ATV is now built for purpose as nearly non-stop marketing vehicle — most episodes since Thanksgiving seem to be dropping Call To Actions in and several (the Ship Shape ones) are a cinematic brochure for assets they want to move. RTV and more critically “Calling All Devs” are now very much focused on reassurance, on trustbuilding, on addressing the questions that were flatly rejected two years ago. In some respects, there’s a healthier seriousness afoot. The amateur hour CIG is less often seen and never the centerpiece. Grizzly Santa schlepping spaceships in the Holiday Livestream was a kooky vestige of the Old Ways but ill-suited for the broader credibility goals of that episode. The changes are suggestive of heightened seriousness from a leadership body and community team that truly did not give a crap what people either wanted or needed, and now we see a new focus and new bargain underway. ATV has sharpened its focus as a marketing vehicle and RTV / Calling All Devs are intent on what looks to me like reparative work. It’s all circumstantial but suggestive. It feels like money problems / refund problems / Community frustration problems actually became serious enough that the Roberts Triarchy felt it, that it grew real enough to shake them out of their complacency and course correct. But course corrections tend to be more effective before a crash not after...  what this all looks like at the detail level but it from a distance and through dark glass it just keeps reinforcing the case for a Phantom Crash. (Also, I’m hoping if I repeat Phantom Crash often enough VC will add it to the Thread Recap, just so the casual visitors have a frame of reference to be looking for that if they’re checking out the project less frequently...) G0RF fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Mar 16, 2018 |
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ManofManyAliases posted:I'm a goon now, like it or not. MoMA! Bind Culling. 2018 or never? (VC, please quote the poo poo out of his answer)
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Admiral Snackbar posted:Wait just a goddamn minute. ish
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Renegret posted:I'm living my dream by posting dog pictures https://i.imgur.com/qk8TEFx.gifv
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Mar 16, 2018 00:43
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trucutru posted:Nobody has seen Erris and Toast in the sane place and at the same time. And Erris is a mild-mannered, awkward reporter who is extremely unattractive to the opposite sex. Toast (actual Toast) is reasonably handsome imo. Not as handsome as Money, but compared to most of the CIGgers, he's hot.
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https://i.imgur.com/lr9qFan.gifv bonk
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Mar 16, 2018 00:53
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That's some pretty looking landing gear actuation. I'm almost impressed. Its a shame backers had to wait 5+ years for larger ships animations to start working. Still nothing on the radar that would warrant a crew of more than 1 however 
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that's actually pretty cool, looks like something you'd fight in horizon
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Mar 16, 2018 01:11
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I give them credit for this. We would of had this 10 hours sooner had chris not needed to write that letter.
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intardnation posted:run away run away Catte As Cochin Can
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SomethingJones posted:These are two really loving great points. Especially the movie one. There's a great quote from Terry Gilliam about how Holywood crews these days are devoid of personality and creativity and individuality that fits into this somehow It's fun to compare the behind the scenes videos from the Star Wars prequels with the ones from the Disney sequels, just to see what things are like 'these days'. The prequels one are filled with moments, such as the ones Red Letter Media famously pointed out, where you can tell people weren't happy, where Lucas admits 'we've might gone a bit too far in some places', people look shocked after the first viewing of TPM... Meanwhile, new studios are always like 'No, everything's perfect, we're all a big happy family, we're doing this for the fans, etc. etc.' It's nauseating because there's no real personality and the only creativity is that of a profit-driven committee. Honestly, I bet you could probably do the same with the LOTR movies and The Hobbit movies.
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Sunk Cost Galaxy Episode 4: "none of these have been gifted to all the backers as a thank you for support" Sandi: "with St. Patrick's Day around the corner we thought it would be the perfect time to bring back this flying party palace and give one away" Take that goonie. 
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Virtual Captain posted:Sunk Cost Galaxy Episode 4: "none of these have been gifted to all the backers as a thank you for support" Is this the first time CIG has given something away that has previously had an actual price tag on it? I find lots of these weird things telling. We're getting into the cycle where a lot of kickstarters around SC's time are "reaching maturity" and many of them are entering failure throws. The others are all throwing whatever they can at their backers to try and keep them happy or at least mollified until work can be completed. CIG's response is to try and milk them for more money.
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Virtual Captain posted:Sunk Cost Galaxy Episode 4: "none of these have been gifted to all the backers as a thank you for support" I'm guessing that you are role-playing a shill, but: They're not giving one away to all the backers. It is the grand prize for the Citizen that makes the (chosen by CIG, using whatever arbitrary means) favorite St Patrick's-themed propaganda video. Outsourcing their marketing now.
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SoftNum posted:Is this the first time CIG has given something away that has previously had an actual price tag on it? They gave BoredGamer a Javelin for collecting 15k signups or something. It's no secret that they used to give streamers some ships to !raffle bootcha's video was more along the lines of 'they never gave everyone a free ship as a thank you for support' I just found it an interesting coincidence.
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Milky Moor posted:It's fun to compare the behind the scenes videos from the Star Wars prequels with the ones from the Disney sequels, just to see what things are like 'these days'. It is kind of a depressing degeneration of method. Using Star Wars as the example: 70s/80s - gently caress, none of this is working - what do we have? The Death Star model split - I have an idea about the gap around the center. The helmets are broken - what can we do? etc. Result: films with some soul to them 90s/2000s - We can CGI everything. Everything I imagine is now on screen. Oops - it's poo poo. Well at least we admitted it's poo poo, but got a few things right. Result: films attempting to capture old magic and failing 2010s - We can CGI everything. Everything we imagine is now on screen. We have copy/pasted every image from the originals without understanding why they became iconic. Everything is perfect! Result: soulless, pointless, forgettable Games can fall into these categories as well. CIG seems to take the worst from all 3 - nothing works, we don't know what to do about it, everything has to be what Chris imagines, yet Chris doesn't imagine anything. gently caress it - buy more ships.
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CIG sure get their ships right. Where do I buy? Is US$2,500 going to be enough, or do I need more? Buy ships!
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G0RF posted:(I’m glad you pointed that out. Even if it risks derailing the thread from ritual slapfighting... I think your phantom crash theory has credence to it. One thing that I couldn’t understand (and still can’t understand) was the sudden release of 3.0 to PTU from evocati. An email to subscribers/concierge leaks out during evocati saying that 3.0 is ‘nearing PTU’ and should be going to PTU in a week. From the evocati leaks we saw, there was no way that 3.0 was ready for PTU, so that in and of itself raised an eyebrow. Then, literally overnight, Chris suddenly turns around and pushes 3.0 to PTU. This was just before the anniversary sale so naturally people thought it was to boost sales, but it still makes no sense to me why there was such a sudden about-turn from CIG’s leadership. The only thing that comes to mind is that something really spooked Crobberts right after that email went out, causing him to ditch all common sense and throw 3.0 to PTU, maybe it was something relating to the phantom crash and/or Crytek’s incoming lawsuit?
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AlbieQuirky posted:Toast (actual Toast) is reasonably handsome imo. Not as handsome as Money, but compared to most of the CIGgers, he's hot. And Erris? the guy I was talking about?
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Virtual Captain posted:They gave BoredGamer a Javelin for collecting 15k signups or something. It's no secret that they used to give streamers some ships to !raffle They’ve also done limited giveaways of ships and hardware at their Citizencon events and stuff but Bootcha is correct, there has never been a general “thank you” gift they’ve given to all the backers.
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Beet Wagon posted:They’ve also done limited giveaways of ships and hardware at their Citizencon events and stuff but Bootcha is correct, there has never been a general “thank you” gift they’ve given to all the backers. Well supplies are limited, what do you dumb rear end goons expect? Also if everyone is special, no one is special.
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SomethingJones posted:The stupidest loving thing CIG ever did was give Derek his money back and eject him from the game. And then they lied about why they did it. 
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Beet Wagon posted:They’ve also done limited giveaways of ships and hardware at their Citizencon events and stuff but Bootcha is correct, there has never been a general “thank you” gift they’ve given to all the backers.
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Why wouldn't they let their backers test all the available ships for bugs and whatnot? Why, when the game is in "alpha", must you still purchase a ship to fly it? That should give anyone pause.
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trucutru posted:And Erris? the guy I was talking about? Not, in my opinion. But I hate bow ties so much it may be biasing me. Sorry for descending into Tiger Beat Star Citizen Edition for a moment there. :shame:
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Mario death mask posted:Why wouldn't they let their backers test all the available ships for bugs and whatnot? Why, when the game is in "alpha", must you still purchase a ship to fly it? That should give anyone pause. Welcome to Star Citizen. It is very possible you do not understand game development. 
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SomethingJones posted:You know Erris, the fear of litigation from Derek as the reason for refunding him does make sense as I'm thinking about it. Then there was that time they tested my resolve, sent me a cease & desist to scare me, while accusing me of stalking and doxing. My attorney's response was amazing. It should be in the National Archives By the time my attorney was done with Ortwin, I was hoping they'd go further and give me my day in court. They didn't. Because that's what they were trying to prevent in the FIRST place when the booted me, then lied about it in a big press release. They singled me out because, you know, I'm not important or anything. A sane person would say it was because they knew that I was probably the only person brave enough to challenge them without blinking. And worst of all for them, I'm a very experienced developer who they know they can't bullshit. And while Shitizens pricks when spending their money on JPEGs while attacking me, I was spending money on legal bills trying to get them to do the right thing. Starting with my much publicized demand letter. I pick my battles. But as I've said time and time again, the whole project is a scam now, and as I was saying for months about this E.L.E, the Crytek lawsuit is only the tip of the iceberg. What's soon to be public (don't ask, i can't say. Just like the Crytek lawsuit which I only told a few people on Discord about, then gave the heads up the day it was filed) is glorious in it's execution. And unluckily for CIG, whether they like it or not, they're going to soon find out that by way of Crytek's lawsuit, they will have to deal with me in court before this is all over. They can't escape it. ----------------
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D_Smart posted:And unluckily for CIG, whether they like it or not, they're going to soon find out that by way of Crytek's lawsuit, they will have to deal with me in court before this is all over. They can't escape it.
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Mario death mask posted:Why wouldn't they let their backers test all the available ships for bugs and whatnot? The main thing you need to understand about CIG: They aren't making a game, they're pretending to make a game so they can sell pictures of spaceships to a bunch of loving idiots.
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Pixelate posted:MoMA! Yes, in the George Michael kind of "faith" way.
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