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sticklefifer posted:1) Fitz dies because FitzSimmons can't have nice things. You're the worst kind of person. I hope you get a flat tire on your way home from work.
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Medullah posted:It does seem that they're aiming for a curve ball with Deke. It was a little on the nose when he wanted to have a catch with his pop. Nah, they literally have DNA evidence.
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Mar 17, 2018 22:12
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sticklefifer posted:1) Fitz dies because FitzSimmons can't have nice things.
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Mar 17, 2018 22:23
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"A floating ship! You guys ever see anything like this before?" Yeah Yup All the time. I love how they were so blasé about it. 
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Mar 17, 2018 22:29
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sticklefifer posted:1) Fitz dies because FitzSimmons can't have nice things. Deke gonna do the nasty in the pasty.
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Mar 17, 2018 23:30
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I got to see a floating ship and a robot fight! Best day ever! Also I completely missed how Deke figured out that Fitz Simmons were his grandparents.
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Mar 17, 2018 23:31
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twistedmentat posted:Also I completely missed how Deke figured out that Fitz Simmons were his grandparents. Fear Dimension Deke Mom said something that she used to always say. When Deke is going to tell Yo-Yo & Simmons that Coulson & Co. are back, Simmons says the same thing, but to Yo-Yo. Between that, and the ring he got for the wedding reminding him of his mother's, who got it from her grandmother, he figured it out.
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Mar 17, 2018 23:35
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twistedmentat posted:I got to see a floating ship and a robot fight! Best day ever! During the Fear Attack Deke sees his mother and she says the whole “the steps you take don’t need to big, they need to take you in the right direction” she mentions HER mom used to tell her that all the time. And then Deke overhears Jemma using the exact same phrase with YoYo and it clicks.
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Kheldarn posted:Fear Dimension Deke Mom said something that she used to always say. When Deke is going to tell Yo-Yo & Simmons that Coulson & Co. are back, Simmons says the same thing, but to Yo-Yo. Ah okay, I thought something happened before that because my PVR hosed up and missed about a minute of episode from when Deke was fighting the Kree.
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Mar 17, 2018 23:39
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Also the monolith fragment was a family heirloom that Jemma's now keeping.
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Mar 18, 2018 00:05
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I wonder if Deke is the key in them preventing the bad future, like after so many loops, him coming along is the reason they are able to survive.
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achillesforever6 posted:I wonder if Deke is the key in them preventing the bad future, like after so many loops, him coming along is the reason they are able to survive. But if Deke is the one that got them their ring, and they had that ring in the future, that means in the original bad timeline, he went back in time to give his grandma the ring.
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Mar 18, 2018 02:07
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I enjoyed seeing a giant, floating dilapidated boat.
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counterfeitsaint posted:But if Deke is the one that got them their ring, and they had that ring in the future, that means in the original bad timeline, he went back in time to give his grandma the ring. Fitz may have just gone to the pawnshop himself. It would be inconvenient, because he's wanted, but it's not something only Deke had the power to.
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Mar 18, 2018 08:46
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Jetfire posted:I enjoyed seeing a giant, floating dilapidated boat. Finally the live action Super Mario 64 we've all been asking for years.
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Mar 18, 2018 09:06
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The General being HYDRA certainly makes all of this make more sense. Also, man, I can't believe Creel just joined them so easily.PunkBoy posted:Season 5, Episode 13: Principia Holy poo poo, I totally missed this loving thing.
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RareAcumen posted:The General being HYDRA certainly makes all of this make more sense. Also, man, I can't believe Creel just joined them so easily. It's going to turn be revealed that General Hale is a good guy all along, right before Ruby kills her.
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RareAcumen posted:The General being HYDRA certainly makes all of this make more sense. Also, man, I can't believe Creel just joined them so easily. Creel might not have seen much of a choice for himself. He was handed over while petrified to be a prisoner of the US Air Force, and I presume that he was only released from that on the condition that he worked for Talbot. Talbot's replacement rolling up and asking him to join a team might not have felt so much like an invitation as an order with the implication that he goes back into a box if he does not comply.
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RareAcumen posted:The General being HYDRA certainly makes all of this make more sense. Also, man, I can't believe Creel just joined them so easily. I could have sworn she specifically said that she wasn't Hydra, just that she knew about it and was well acquainted with Von Strucker. It's not like Marvel is hurting for obscure, evil organizations that want to take over the world. Maybe she's ex-AIM or something. Bonus points if she's part of 'The Committee' and we get Moon Knight this season (of course that isn't happening).
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Yeah, she scoffed at Hydra but she's clearly Hydra adjacent. It's effectively the same "eh, the Nazis were idiots, we're about political and military power" and "eh, the political and military guys were idiots, we're about resurecting an alien god" type of thing. We just don't know what Hale's real ambitions or group is yet but she's tied up in that whole mess. cant cook creole bream posted:Fitz may have just gone to the pawnshop himself. It would be inconvenient, because he's wanted, but it's not something only Deke had the power to. Maybe it's because I don't understand and hate time travel stories but I cant figure a reason why Deke couldnt have just been in the original timeline? There's been no indication that he makes the difference in a change. Has there?
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I don't think Hale is connected to Hydra at all at this point. I think she just sees all this useful poo poo they left lying around and plans to reap the benefits.
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Well shes connected in that she worked with them in the past as confirmed by her and Von Strucker. But no, Hydra is dead now and she doesn't appear to by flying the banner. The implication is that it's a parallel group or something like that.
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STAC Goat posted:Maybe it's because I don't understand and hate time travel stories but I cant figure a reason why Deke couldnt have just been in the original timeline? There's been no indication that he makes the difference in a change. Has there? So far all indications are that things are playing out exactly the same way. Deke wasn't shown in the flashbacks but there's no reason so far to think he specifically wasn't.
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Regy Rusty posted:So far all indications are that things are playing out exactly the same way. Deke wasn't shown in the flashbacks but there's no reason so far to think he specifically wasn't. Yeah, all we know is Deke wasn't in the snapshots we saw. He could have been in the background, he could be dead, he could have gone back to the Future. Who knows? It's just an assumption that him coming back in time was new.
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I still want to believe that Hale is a Kree Infiltrator, or maybe even a Skrull. I just realized that jackass in the future killed Simmons-Fitz's daughter.
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I'm not entirely certain this show is above saving the world only to break our hearts by having Deek Marty McFly vanish because the future he's from no longer exists to break our hearts right after FitzSimmons learn he's their grandson and this is worrying me.
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Mar 19, 2018 03:59
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Maybe they’ll just stay in the time loop at the end of the season to really gently caress with us if they don’t get another season.
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LividLiquid posted:I'm not entirely certain this show is above saving the world only to break our hearts by having Deek Marty McFly vanish because the future he's from no longer exists to break our hearts right after FitzSimmons learn he's their grandson and this is worrying me. I am now imagining Deke watching that movie and then tries to make sure his grandparents bang so that he still exists.
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Mar 19, 2018 04:39
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Mraagvpeine posted:I am now imagining Deke watching that movie and then tries to make sure his grandparents bang so that he still exists. I forgot he didn’t figure it out yet and thought that was exactly what he was doing when he was convincing Simmons-Fitz have adult time.
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Mar 19, 2018 05:10
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Got drat, Shasta McNasty was a long time ago.
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Proteus Jones posted:During the Fear Attack Deke sees his mother and she says the whole “the steps you take don’t need to big, they need to take you in the right direction” she mentions HER mom used to tell her that all the time. They might as well have hung a lampshade on it and had Simmons say "What do you mean, I always say that! It's like my catchphrase!"
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Mar 19, 2018 07:03
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Man I can't wait for the world to be destroyed because of TEENAGE ANGST. okay I get it that her mother is a loving monster training her to become a weapon but still.
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I just want Mack to be happy. That dude has been the heart of the show since he showed up. Helped Fitz through his brain problems, was bffs with Bobbi (that bar scene when she left  ), forgiving Daisy when she couldn't after she almost killed him via Hive, everything with Yo-Yo, especially getting her arms (and beer) this past episode... 
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ApeHawk posted:Man I can't wait for the world to be destroyed because of TEENAGE ANGST. I suspect it's the other way around. (Mostly because Creel seems to be a genuinely good guy.)
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Regy Rusty posted:So far all indications are that things are playing out exactly the same way. Deke wasn't shown in the flashbacks but there's no reason so far to think he specifically wasn't. The chronochron that got blown up said that he’s never seen Deke before. Since their job is to chronicle everything that happens I think the implication is that this is a new timeline.
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Boris Galerkin posted:The chronochron that got blown up said that he’s never seen Deke before. Since their job is to chronicle everything that happens I think the implication is that this is a new timeline. That part would have played out the same either way, though? It's Deke's first appearance in this part of the timeline, thus the chronocom would never have seen him before regardless of if he was present in the flashbacks previously. I'm onboard with the thought of this being a new timeline though, despite Deke still hasn't explicitly done anything that couldn't have happened without him. The chronocoms seem to work in linear time, the timeline they follow hasn't been the same as the one Shield has experienced. For him the shield group were sent into the future a couple months ago, and he'd just been told that they'd get back to the base at some point, if everything went as planned. Losing Enoch in the future probably meant that they lost a lot of valuable info on the timeline, since he didn't survive to get back and update them.
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Boris Galerkin posted:The chronochron that got blown up said that he’s never seen Deke before. Since their job is to chronicle everything that happens I think the implication is that this is a new timeline. If those guys were able to keep track of multiple timelines they'd be a lot better at fixing this mess.
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Mar 19, 2018 12:09
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Last week we learned that Ruby's powers include lipnosis.
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Mar 19, 2018 14:21
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So where is Enoch now? In outer space with the other Fitz?
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:So where is Enoch now? In outer space with the other Fitz? Their time-travel stuff is all messed up with paradoxes unless they spell out very specific rules about each timeline existing in parallel dimensions where they don't necessarily wipe each other out. I guess we'll find out for sure at the end of the season if Deke disappears BttF-style or if he stays because his original timeline still exists in an alternate dimension.
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