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davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

Neo Rasa posted:

The best part is at one point one of the two ninjas annoys Shao Khan so he throws him into a fiery pit. Later in the movie Liu Kang fights Baraka who looks nothing like a ninja in any way at all, yet when he defeats him......they didn't actually finish the fight Liu Kang knocks him off screen and it cuts to the exact same footage of that ninja getting thrown into a pit of fire.

I love that they hoped no one would notice, and everyone who's seen the movie noticed immediately.

That movie has such insane character bloat. Guys like Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Smoke, Nightwolf and Mileena just pop in for a quick appearance and then disappear from the movie completely without reason.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I recall rumours that the original Street Fighter movie was a repurposed GI Joe script. Which kinda works.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

Today I found out Sicario of all things is getting a sequel. Villeneuve isn't involved at all, the poster looks like something out of The Purge and the IMDB synopsis makes it sound like Death Wish by way of Rambo.

Villeneuve isn't involved, but it's the same screenplay writer as Sicario.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Is the King of Fighters anime movie the one where Mai's boobs are popping out in every transistional frame or is that a differant film?

I wish they made a hyper violent good animated Darkstalkers/Vampire Savior anime movie.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Sinners Sandwich posted:

I wish they made a hyper violent good animated Darkstalkers/Vampire Savior anime movie.

Unfortunately, this is all we're getting for now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L72x70Xj5k4

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Is the King of Fighters anime movie the one where Mai's boobs are popping out in every transistional frame or is that a differant film?

When you have Masami Obari direct, expect some pneumatic anime tiddy action. I think almost everything he's animated has had some bouncing breasts in it, save the transformation sequence for Convoy i.e. Optimus Prime in Gen1 Transformers

quote:

I wish they made a hyper violent good animated Darkstalkers/Vampire Savior anime movie.

:same:

There really should have been a Studio Madhouse-produced anime for Darkstalkers.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Inescapable Duck posted:

I recall rumours that the original Street Fighter movie was a repurposed GI Joe script. Which kinda works.

I can say that’s true for certain, but it’s always been my own personally held belief. Plus Hasbro produced the toys for the movie and they were GI Joe scale and design.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Inescapable Duck posted:

I recall rumours that the original Street Fighter movie was a repurposed GI Joe script.

I don't believe that's true, because Capcom maintained strict control over the movie's content and Steven de Souza was a big fan of the game (which is why he agreed to write and direct it in the first place). In the making-of that's on the Blu-ray, de Souza says he wrote the first draft in one night because he was so excited after getting the call from the studio.

Fart City posted:

Plus Hasbro produced the toys for the movie and they were GI Joe scale and design.

The Street Fighter movie toys were just re-tools / re-paints of the toys Hasbro had already made from the game license a couple of years earlier.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
They were literally GI Joe figures with the branding and accessories, iirc, that just happened to be Street Fighter characters.

Guile would fit right in.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

FilthyImp posted:

The main baddie is Eric Roberts.

Congrats on complaining about the one non-bad thing about the DOA movie. They didn't even bother hiring the game's cast for the Japanese dub which seems like a no-brainer when you realise that your US movie based on a Japanese license is loving awful (see last year's Ghost In The Shell movie for an example of that)

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Timby posted:

I don't believe that's true, because Capcom maintained strict control over the movie's content and Steven de Souza was a big fan of the game (which is why he agreed to write and direct it in the first place). In the making-of that's on the Blu-ray, de Souza says he wrote the first draft in one night because he was so excited after getting the call from the studio.


The Street Fighter movie toys were just re-tools / re-paints of the toys Hasbro had already made from the game license a couple of years earlier.

Inescapable Duck posted:

They were literally GI Joe figures with the branding and accessories, iirc, that just happened to be Street Fighter characters.

Guile would fit right in.


It for sure wasn't a GI Joe script, but Capcom was all about having an action movie international fighting force good guys James Bond villains kind of thing so it's easy to see why folks would think that. The movie was horrendous though and a crazy production so instead of securing its own thing there ended up being, ironically, official GI Joe branded Street Fighter figures.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Mar 21, 2018

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

quote:

Plus, Capcom had forged a partnership with Hasbro long before production began to warp the G.I. Joe toy line into Street Fighter: The Movie licensed dolls, just in time for Black Friday. "You can look at this movie as the first G.I. Joe movie," says De Souza, "Because G.I. Joe was in a swamp at this time. It was not selling. So Hasbro wanted to reboot the G.I. Joe line by thinly disguising it as Street Fighter."

Hasbro's request would impact the look and feel of the film. In a Hasbro memo from August 1993, plans are made for a tank, driven by Jean-Claude Van Damme in the film, to be designed after a current G.I. Joe vehicle, streamlining the resale process.

From the excellent article about the movie https://www.polygon.com/features/2014/3/10/5451014/street-fighter-the-movie-what-went-wrong

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Neo Rasa posted:

The movie was horrendous though

The movie definitely isn't what anyone would consider "good" but there are elements to appreciate in it:

- Actually really good location photography
- Generally good casting with a few exceptions
- Obviously Julia's performance
- Excellent Graeme Revell score
- "I'ma get in mah boat, an' I'm going upreever, an' I'ma kick that sahnofabitch Bison's rear end so HORD..."
- Just a generally fun, campy tone

It's depressing to watch Julia in the final throes of stomach cancer, of course, and it's rather obvious that Van Damme was doing mountains of coke when the cameras were off, but it's fun in a stupid sort of way.

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instead of securing its own thing there ended up being, ironically, official GI Joe branded Street Fighter figures.

Like I said earlier, though, the GI Joe stuff pre-dated the movie toys by more than a year.

1993:

Late 1994 / Early 1995 (Movie):

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

I unironically love Street Fighter: The Movie. I mean, it is terrible, but it is a uniquely watchable kind of terrible. And has been often mentioned, Raul Julia turns in a real-deal fun performance.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Fart City posted:

I unironically love Street Fighter: The Movie. I mean, it is terrible, but it is a uniquely watchable kind of terrible.

It's just sort of amazing that it came together in any sort of real way. I mean, you had one lead actor who was literally dying, another lead who was late to the set every day because he was too wiped out from doing mountains of cocaine and loving Kyle Minogue all night long, other actors who were perpetually drunk on the set, miserable filming conditions in Bangkok, a first-time director, a game studio with no film experience having full control over the script ... that's a Star Trek V level of "perfect storm in which everything that could possibly go wrong did go wrong."

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Sure, but for Raul Julia it was a Tuesday

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

doa was fine because it was a movie that mostly embraced how loving stupid everything about it was

like it wasn't good but it was in retrospect probably better than everything about street fighter that wasn't zangief or raul julia

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I also like Zangief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2gdyuBrkI

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!


Andrew Bryniarski has had such a weird career. From Chip Schreck to Zangief to Leatherface.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Lmao, I forgot about Bisonopolis

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

TetsuoTW posted:

doa was fine because it was a movie that mostly embraced how loving stupid everything about it was

like it wasn't good but it was in retrospect probably better than everything about street fighter that wasn't zangief or raul julia

I was just reminded there's a DLC for the last Fatal Frame game where one of the DOA ninjas show up and is shocked her swords don't work on ghosts.

Which actually begs the question why hasn't there been a fatal frame movie or a knock off? There's found footage movies of course, but the camera isn't more than a framing device in those.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~

Fart City posted:

I unironically love Street Fighter: The Movie. I mean, it is terrible, but it is a uniquely watchable kind of terrible. And has been often mentioned, Raul Julia turns in a real-deal fun performance.

It’s sad but also really touching that Raúl Juliá did Street Fighter as his last movie because his kids loved the games.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

Thundercracker posted:

Which actually begs the question why hasn't there been a fatal frame movie or a knock off? There's found footage movies of course, but the camera isn't more than a framing device in those.

There's a suprisingly game-accurate porn version of the second one from almost 15 years ago.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

It really should be more of a shock whenever a decent blockbuster gets made in Hollywood, because every one of them has to put up with bullshit like this coming from all sides.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Timby posted:

Andrew Bryniarski has had such a weird career. From Chip Schreck to Zangief to Leatherface.

:aaaaa:

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002

Timby posted:

It's just sort of amazing that it came together in any sort of real way. I mean, you had one lead actor who was literally dying, another lead who was late to the set every day because he was too wiped out from doing mountains of cocaine and loving Kyle Minogue all night long, other actors who were perpetually drunk on the set, miserable filming conditions in Bangkok, a first-time director, a game studio with no film experience having full control over the script ... that's a Star Trek V level of "perfect storm in which everything that could possibly go wrong did go wrong."

Again I ask for a thread about hilariously hosed-up productions

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Timby posted:

It's just sort of amazing that it came together in any sort of real way. I mean, you had one lead actor who was literally dying, another lead who was late to the set every day because he was too wiped out from doing mountains of cocaine and loving Kyle Minogue all night long, other actors who were perpetually drunk on the set, miserable filming conditions in Bangkok, a first-time director, a game studio with no film experience having full control over the script ... that's a Star Trek V level of "perfect storm in which everything that could possibly go wrong did go wrong."

I'd like to think that by the time Microsoft wanted to get a Halo movie made, but were demanding control of the production, the entire film industry just went "we've seen multiple video game movies crash and burn because people who had no idea what the gently caress they were doing destroyed everything. no dice."

and that's why we don't have a Bioshock movie.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

ALFbrot posted:

Again I ask for a thread about hilariously hosed-up productions

This doesn't deserve its own thread, but Star Trek VI was almost as much of a clusterfuck as its predecessor.

Timby posted:

For background, Nicholas Meyer and Leonard Nimoy hashed out the story at Meyer's beach house; Nimoy opened by asking Meyer, "How would you like to tell a story about the Wall coming down in space?" That sold Meyer, and they walked up and down the beach all day just breaking down the story beat-by-beat. They then went their separate ways, with Meyer intending to write the script with Denny Martin Flinn, his longtime friend who was dying of cancer.

However, there was a massive power struggle going on at Paramount. Frank Mancuso, Paramount's president, had reached out to Nimoy to spearhead the movie after Gulf + Western chief Martin Davis raised the mother of all fits over Harve Bennett's plan to do the Starfleet Academy movie for the 25th anniversary. However, there were a couple of other Paramount executives -- Sid Ganis, who was the head of the movie studio, and his lieutenant, Teddy Zee -- who were actively campaigning to get Mancuso replaced, and so they brought out Lawrence Konner and Mark Rosenthal, the writers of noted cinematic classic Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, telling Nimoy and Meyer that they had this exciting young writing team and they would just love it if they would meet with them. Nimoy wanted no part of it because he immediately smelled studio politics, and Meyer was reticent because it was already starting to reek of what happened on Star Trek IV (he and Bennett lost WGA arbitration on IV and had to share script credit with Steve Meerson and Peter Krikes, the guys who wrote the Eddie Murphy draft that was tossed), but he decided he would meet with these two bobos as a courtesy. Here's where things started to get ugly.

In their meeting, Meyer brought the entire, detailed outline that he and Nimoy had created that day on the beach, as well as some early script pages, and basically handed everything over to them. They came back a few weeks later and had literally plagiarized the entire thing (just changing the words, basically) and put their names on it. Though they were fired shortly thereafter, Nimoy was furious, later saying "I wanted to kill the son of a bitch (Meyer)," and it only got worse during post-production when he lost WGA arbitration and the credits were going to read "Story by Konner and Rosenthal, script by Meyer and Flinn." Nimoy hit the roof, called his lawyer and said that if it weren't resolved over the course of the weekend, he was personally going to sue the WGA, Paramount, Konner, Rosenthal and Meyer. At the eleventh hour they finally agreed on "Story by Nimoy, Konner and Rosenthal, script by Meyer and Flinn."

There were also some arguments during filming. Nimoy was one of the people uncomfortable with some of the racially charged tones of the script (not to the extent that Nichols and Brock Peters were, but he was still bothered by it), and he fought tooth and nail against the mind-rape scene, which wasn't in the shooting script -- as written, after Valeris reveals the conspirators, Kirk asks where the peace conference is, there's a two-second beat and Spock calmly says she doesn't know and that they should contact Excelsior. Nimoy felt that there was no way Spock would violate his principles like that, but Meyer overruled him. Lots of little fights like that added up and much like how The Voyage Home wrecked Nimoy's relationship with Bennett, Undiscovered Country almost totally destroyed his friendship with Meyer.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

DC Murderverse posted:

I'd like to think that by the time Microsoft wanted to get a Halo movie made, but were demanding control of the production, the entire film industry just went "we've seen multiple video game movies crash and burn because people who had no idea what the gently caress they were doing destroyed everything. no dice."

and that's why we don't have a Bioshock movie.

Pretty sure they cancelled Bioshock because Gore Verbinski wanted to build a functioning underwater city.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Bioshock actually probably came the closest to happening out of all of these, and if it had been pre-produced about 5 or 6 years later, it probably would have come out. Verbinski had two requirements for the Bioshock movie: 1) they had to build a full-scale Rapture set instead of using green screens, and 2) it had to be R-rated. Studios consistently told him he could do one or the other, but not both, because making it R would cut the potential profits too much for the Rapture set to be cost-effective.

In a post-Deadpool and Logan world, I'm pretty sure the studios would have been like "sure, fine, make your R-rated Bioshock movie."

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me
Why the gently caress would a Bioshock movie have to be R-rated? Theres no nudity and while the poo poo some of the plasmids and the Big Daddies can do might turn some heads, that seems like something you could pretty easily tone down if need be.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

That second "gently caress" really tied the script together.

Also there's likely a number of violent deaths, including the main spoilery one, which I feel needs to be on camera to really get the impact it needs.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Violence against Children, I imagine, would drive a lot. As well as the bodyhorror Spliced stuff dialed up to 11000

21 Muns
Dec 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
TBH a Bioshock movie should be a fresh new story in the same setting; the game's story is extremely game-tailored and wouldn't translate well to film directly. :colbert:

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Detective No. 27 posted:

Pretty sure they cancelled Bioshock because Gore Verbinski wanted to build a functioning underwater city.

"No, you see, Waterworld's problem is that they built the set on top of the water. That's where it got away from them!"

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

DC Murderverse posted:

I'd like to think that by the time Microsoft wanted to get a Halo movie made, but were demanding control of the production, the entire film industry just went "we've seen multiple video game movies crash and burn because people who had no idea what the gently caress they were doing destroyed everything. no dice."

and that's why we don't have a Bioshock movie.

Seems a bit weird given the alternative is things like Nintendo having no idea what the gently caress the Mario movie turned into and swearing off movies for decades. (Pokémon aside, but that's a special case)

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

Why the gently caress would a Bioshock movie have to be R-rated? Theres no nudity and while the poo poo some of the plasmids and the Big Daddies can do might turn some heads, that seems like something you could pretty easily tone down if need be.

It would honestly be really hard to tone down the violence if you're doing a straight adaptation of the first game. As mentioned, there's one major death in the plotline that really needs to be disturbing and impactful to work, and you're just not gonna get there with PG-13 violence. Also, it's kind of hard to have drill hands affect anything meaty if you're not going R or getting very creative.

wyoming
Jun 7, 2010

Like a television
tuned to a dead channel.

Detective No. 27 posted:

Pretty sure they cancelled Bioshock because Gore Verbinski wanted to build a functioning underwater city.

Bless him.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

Why the gently caress would a Bioshock movie have to be R-rated? Theres no nudity and while the poo poo some of the plasmids and the Big Daddies can do might turn some heads, that seems like something you could pretty easily tone down if need be.

i dunno, I feel like a city full of violent drug addicts who constantly hunt a bunch of mutated little girls that are protected by semi-human goliaths who wield drills and rivet guns should be rendered as violently as it needs to be. Gore Verbinski is a genius.

if i'm being honest, despite how cliche it sounds I wish I could have a multi-year HBO series about the rise and fall of Rapture. Starring Michael Shannon as Andrew Ryan.

Inescapable Duck posted:

Seems a bit weird given the alternative is things like Nintendo having no idea what the gently caress the Mario movie turned into and swearing off movies for decades. (Pokémon aside, but that's a special case)

that was also a case of "people who had no idea what they were doing", they just weren't Nintendo's people.

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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
They need to do a series in the vein of Westworld. Call it something innocuous and then the end of the first season is really just the setup for the rest of the series when the lead meets with his team on the Santa Monica pier and looks out to the ocean.

Cue warbly olde tyme music.

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