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The Fool posted:That fact that she's notifying you that company data is out in the wild is a step in the right direction. And not her problem either. You make your email accessible outside your space of administration you assume the risk.
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So the setup of Zabbix continues and I just spent all afternoon elbow deep in SNMP and...I kind of get it now? I made templates for our copier and rack AC unit that loving work and I am unreasonably proud of that. I even think I can get this setup so that it will automatically order new toner carts when one runs out which would fuckin' own.
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Mar 23, 2018 23:19
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I agree, I was assuming that the iPad was company property.
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Mar 23, 2018 23:21
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Excuse me whilst I headdesk for a few minutes... All y'all seem to have forgotten the magic word here: L I A B I L I T Y Bob, it doesn't matter if you're so beef that you flip over cars just brushing against them - if the company has not *explicitly* stated that you are expected to act in a hands-on manner as security, then *you* will be observing that bus undercarriage passing overhead. Your fault, the aggressor's fault, nobody's fault, doesn't matter - do you really think that this company will circle the lawyers for you? (Isn't this the fabled "no snacks"/"1/4 bagel" crew?) I work in a non-clinical role at a behavioural healthcare provider - *everyone* gets MOAB (Management of Agressive Behaviour) training, with regular refreshers. This includes recognizing when poo poo is about to go sideways, trying to de-escalate, and what to do it someone is choking you or thowing a television set. They also explicitly state that you may defend yourself, but that if you physically intervene on the behalf of another, it's all on you. (Supposed to wait for the cops, by policy.) This is at a company that has nearly-daily police responses, ambulance runs and internal alerts to either come swarm someone, or to lock yourself in your office. I haven't gotten the impression that your workplace is like that. If your company (or anyone else's) asks for this kind of thing, that's where you clearly state that you need documentation stating: what rules of engagement you are operating under what limits you are supposed to observe in your actions what legal authority you are being granted, and by whom and what liability is being assumed by the company All that poo poo needs to be on file, signed and dated, beforehand. "Other duties as assigned" does not cover being volunteered to be the bouncer, especially when civil (and criminal - you *are* conversant in your local/county/state laws regarding assault, correct?) charges may apply. That's what security and law enforcement is for - you don't call a plumber to build out your server farm, don't call IT to wrestle angry ex-employees. All that is if you are being told to do so - if you are doing so on your own initiative, realize that you may be turbofucked sideways at a later date, and it is *highly unlikely* that your employer will touch that poop in any way shape or form. (My own experience is from 10+ years back, when a psychotic man managed to force his way into our medical records department, injuring one of our staff in the process. With (at that time) no training or policy for such events, I followed him in, kept him distracted enough for the staff to exit, and convinced him that Jesus Christ wasn't back there today and if he'd wait in the lobby, someone would see him shortly. (I ended up with a little "attaboy" certificate later, says not one loving word about *why* I was getting it, because I'm fairly certain there'd be heart attacks with the company attorneys and/or insurers should such documentation occur.) (As for our curent policy, I will not state publicly what may occur if things go all pear-shaped. All I will say is that I know and understand company policy, and any actions taken (or not taken) will be my decision, and mine alone. Simply put, I'll burn that bridge when I come to it.) tl;dr oh dear gently caress *NO*
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Zamboni I'm definitely agreeing with you but if you could just wait in the lobby someone will see you shortly.
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:I work in a non-clinical role at a behavioural healthcare provider - *everyone* gets MOAB (Management of Agressive Behaviour) training, with regular refreshers. This includes recognizing when poo poo is about to go sideways, trying to de-escalate, and what to do it someone is choking you or thowing a television set. They also explicitly state that you may defend yourself, but that if you physically intervene on the behalf of another, it's all on you. (Supposed to wait for the cops, by policy.) This is at a company that has nearly-daily police responses, ambulance runs and internal alerts to either come swarm someone, or to lock yourself in your office. Alternatively, you could copy the MOAB of a small business owner I know which states the location of the nearest pig farm and where he keeps the big knives and plastic sheeting.
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Mar 24, 2018 01:33
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Alternatively they could just not pay Bob any extra to be a bouncer to a potentially unstable employee. 
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Inspector_666 posted:So the setup of Zabbix continues and I just spent all afternoon elbow deep in SNMP and...I kind of get it now? I made templates for our copier and rack AC unit that loving work and I am unreasonably proud of that. Then set up a Slack webhook so it will tell you on its own when stuff goes down overnight.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Then set up a Slack webhook so it will tell you on its own when stuff goes down overnight. I'm going to setup the e-mail alerting system next week. I have Slack set to DND mode on weekends and after hours. But yeah, that's the easy part since Zabbix has that all built in.
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I was mad when my new job as a tier 2 tech required sometimes taking out trash and vacuuming floors. No way I would agree to put myself in a position where I may have to wrestle insane coworker.
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Could one of you at least point me in the direction of a good Powershell starter? This is nothing official, just a task I like to do every so often. I already know the commands, and have just been abusing the persistent scroll back buffer. I just need to know what basic structural stuff a Powershell script needs.
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Mar 25, 2018 22:50
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The most basic form of a PowerShell script is just a text file with one command per line. Exactly like a DOS batch file or a Unix shell script. If you then want to be able to pass arguments to the script, you can add a Param block at the top, to describe which you want. If you want the entire script to behave more like a full cmdlet with pipeline functionality you can use Begin/Process/End steps and the [Cmdlet] decorator. Apart from that, the book "PowerShell in a month of lunches" gets recommended here every so often.
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nielsm posted:The most basic form of a PowerShell script is just a text file with one command per line. Exactly like a DOS batch file or a Unix shell script. Mkay then. I figured it was a little more complicated. I just want what is basically a batch file to enter a folder, delete the files there, dump two other directories into files then concatenate them. Nothing big, but I wasn't sure, due to some experiences with other environments, if I had to do anything else.
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Samizdata posted:Could one of you at least point me in the direction of a good Powershell starter? This is nothing official, just a task I like to do every so often. I already know the commands, and have just been abusing the persistent scroll back buffer. I just need to know what basic structural stuff a Powershell script needs. There's also a PowerShell megathread.
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Samizdata posted:Mkay then. I figured it was a little more complicated. I just want what is basically a batch file to enter a folder, delete the files there, dump two other directories into files then concatenate them. Nothing big, but I wasn't sure, due to some experiences with other environments, if I had to do anything else.
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18 Character Limit posted:There's also a PowerShell megathread. Cheers for the linkage. Thanatosian posted:You can do this with batch pretty easily, too. I know, but at some point I need to get up with the times.
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Samizdata posted:I know, but at some point I need to get up with the times. I've been saying that for six years already.
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Samizdata posted:Could one of you at least point me in the direction of a good Powershell starter? This is nothing official, just a task I like to do every so often. I already know the commands, and have just been abusing the persistent scroll back buffer. I just need to know what basic structural stuff a Powershell script needs. There's also http://powershelltutorial.net/ which is a bit dated (it still says Powershell 4 is coming soon. Powershell 6 came out in January this year) but is still decent for learning the basics.
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Welp, you guys steered me in enough directions, I got done what I need to get done (mostly - The text is being wrapped now, so have to figure that one out), so cheers on that.
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Samizdata posted:Could one of you at least point me in the direction of a good Powershell starter? This is nothing official, just a task I like to do every so often. I already know the commands, and have just been abusing the persistent scroll back buffer. I just need to know what basic structural stuff a Powershell script needs. The O'Reilly guys just tweeted that the first 90 pages of their Windows PowerShell Cookbook is currently free, hopefully this is helpful to you/someone: http://cdn.oreilly.com/oreilly/booksamplers/9781449320683_sampler.pdf
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Sirotan posted:The O'Reilly guys just tweeted that the first 90 pages of their Windows PowerShell Cookbook is currently free, hopefully this is helpful to you/someone: http://cdn.oreilly.com/oreilly/booksamplers/9781449320683_sampler.pdf It's the first 87 pages, which covers all of chapter 1. Still looks like a good resource for someone just get their hands on PowerShell.
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The powershell book is like a whole 35 bucks on the website. Out of all the dumb poo poo you will ever spend money on this won't be rank anywhere. I promise you that if you do that book right you will end up being more competent than 70% of the sysadmins that have ever worked in the industry just from the book alone. I wish I was kidding.
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Sickening posted:The powershell book is like a whole 35 bucks on the website. Out of all the dumb poo poo you will ever spend money on this won't be rank anywhere. I had to explain to a dude with 15 years more experience than me that no, you really don't have to remote into those 75 servers and expand their system partitions manually. Invoke-Command $servers { "rescan","select volume C","extend" | diskpart.exe } on a list of hostnames. Done in < 10 seconds. It's incredible how many (windows) sysadmins really have no concept of powershell or scripting in general.
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xsf421 posted:I had to explain to a dude with 15 years more experience than me that no, you really don't have to remote into those 75 servers and expand their system partitions manually. Invoke-Command $servers { "rescan","select volume C","extend" | diskpart.exe } on a list of hostnames. Done in < 10 seconds. It's incredible how many (windows) sysadmins really have no concept of powershell or scripting in general. "Shell" and "scripting" are linux things. Windows admins use RDP. Hell, windows admins when they have to install a linux server, they choose to install X11, and VNC into it and open up 100 terminals on that little desktop. 
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Actually Windows admins install a load of poo poo like LogMeIn or TeamViewer on domain controllers because VPN is 
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Thanks Ants posted:Actually Windows admins install a load of poo poo like LogMeIn or TeamViewer on domain controllers because VPN is I cry every time I see this poo poo.
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One of the first things I did at my current job was install RSAT to look after our local domain stuff. The other admins here thought it was some kind of black magic fuckery. I convinced one it was the best way. The others still use RDP and juggle RDP sessions between them.
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Thanks Ants posted:Actually Windows admins install a load of poo poo like LogMeIn or TeamViewer on domain controllers because VPN is You might be amused and/or horrified by how many premiership football clubs had matchday board control PCs hooked up to logmein in the mid 2000s. I installed it on half of them. Volguus posted:"Shell" and "scripting" are linux things. Windows admins use RDP. Hell, windows admins when they have to install a linux server, they choose to install X11, and VNC into it and open up 100 terminals on that little desktop. You mean a copy of Webmin?
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Thanks Ants posted:Actually Windows admins install a load of poo poo like LogMeIn or TeamViewer on domain controllers because VPN is Doubly for MSP's. PowerShell and CLI in general is heavily locked down because phone drones aren't trusted with it. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of rdp/remote control software windows admins started as phone support..
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I know that when I was at an MSP, we ran GoToAssist on everything. No-one wanted to spend the time to setup a management vpn unless you could bill the customer for it, and the customers never had an interest in paying for something that wasn't a direct and immediate benefit.
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The Fool posted:I know that when I was at an MSP, we ran GoToAssist on everything. No-one wanted to spend the time to setup a management vpn unless you could bill the customer for it, and the customers never had an interest in paying for something that wasn't a direct and immediate benefit. To be fair most MSP clients don't want to pay for anything that gives a direct and immediate benefit either. Most just want to pay the minimum possible to keep what fires they do have mostly under control.
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MSP: Maintain Smouldering in Perpetuity
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Thanks Ants posted:Actually Windows admins install a load of poo poo like LogMeIn or TeamViewer on domain controllers because VPN is Oh, look, you included my company in that 
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Gathering data from a single VM/Server? Just fuckin RDP to it unless you have copy/paste of what you need. Anything more than a single server? Remote powershell (if possible). That's what I do anyway, sadly in one environment we are very limited in what we can do, if I want to run a powershell one-liner to grab a bunch of data form 10 servers? Gotta go through a CAB process. gently caress by the time that is done (minimum a week unless I do it as an emergency which will likely result in someone complaining about dodging processes) I will have no need for the data anyway.
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D34THROW posted:Oh, look, you included my company in that If it makes you feel any better, we use LogMeIn at my company and I like it a lot.  One of our sales guys got phished today, and the ick his computer caught distributed itself to everyone on his contacts list. The neat thing about it is that it was smart enough to reply "yes" to any emails asking the sender if his email and its attachment were both legit. It got about a dozen people before the poor guy figured out he'd been fooled.
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xsf421 posted:I had to explain to a dude with 15 years more experience than me that no, you really don't have to remote into those 75 servers and expand their system partitions manually. Invoke-Command $servers { "rescan","select volume C","extend" | diskpart.exe } on a list of hostnames. Done in < 10 seconds. It's incredible how many (windows) sysadmins really have no concept of powershell or scripting in general. Invoke-Command $servers { "rescan","select volume C","delete" | diskpart.exe } OOPS 
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I didn't know you could pipe commands to diskpart like that. Cheers thread!
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I didn't know invoke-command could take an array, I've been wrapping it in a foreach
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The Fool posted:I didn't know invoke-command could take an array, I've been wrapping it in a foreach Aunt Beth fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Mar 27, 2018 |
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Sirotan posted:The O'Reilly guys just tweeted that the first 90 pages of their Windows PowerShell Cookbook is currently free, hopefully this is helpful to you/someone: http://cdn.oreilly.com/oreilly/booksamplers/9781449320683_sampler.pdf Cheers. Snagging as we speak.
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