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Ugh, does literally everything have to be made edgy? Why is it so wrong for Power Rangers to be a lighthearted show about colorful teams beating up monsters?
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Mar 23, 2018 01:56
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galagazombie posted:Ugh, does literally everything have to be made edgy? Why is it so wrong for Power Rangers to be a lighthearted show about colorful teams beating up monsters? This has about all of the edge of Power Rangers. Like you realize you're looking at the evil mirror universe of Tommy and not some grim future of the main universe right? This is something that Power Rangers could have easily done in the show itself- and has a few times. Not every Ranger series is super light hearted, though they're all very kid friendly even when they do get serious, and the franchise is better for it. Nothing here says that this is any different than, say, ANY "Evil Universe Counterpart" story you find in any series.
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Mar 23, 2018 02:01
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galagazombie posted:Ugh, does literally everything have to be made edgy? Why is it so wrong for Power Rangers to be a lighthearted show about colorful teams beating up monsters? Because that's what Megaforce was.
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Mar 23, 2018 02:02
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galagazombie posted:Ugh, does literally everything have to be made edgy? Why is it so wrong for Power Rangers to be a lighthearted show about colorful teams beating up monsters? I refer you to humanity's greatest work, "Green With Evil"
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Mar 23, 2018 02:06
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I offer further material In Space through Time Force And a dashing of R "Nuclear Holocaust" P "Heaven Help Them, Because We Can't" M "Cancer riddled orphans"
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Mar 23, 2018 02:09
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I get what he means, though. It’s very out of profile for the series, which is about guys in bright costumes karateing a rubber suit that has a silly theme, or two themes that don’t have any real connection. And the over here you’ve got deepest lore and the old “superheroes are like modern day mythological gods” trope that people hated in Batman vs Superman. It can be semi-serious and done well (Journey’s End, Countdown to Destruction) or edgy and goofy (Zedd’s intro, or Rito’s), but neither show never really forgets it’s idea of peak action is a man in transformer cosplay stomping around the dollhouses. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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Mar 23, 2018 04:52
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Started reading the Power Rangers comics with the two prelude issues for the event, and they're pretty good. More serious than the show, but doesn't try to be real edgy or dark.
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Mar 23, 2018 09:31
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Craptacular! posted:I get what he means, though. It’s very out of profile for the series, which is about guys in bright costumes karateing a rubber suit that has a silly theme, or two themes that don’t have any real connection. See, that's why I really love this video. Because the production values are JUST at that right level. They aren't trying to make anything look like anything that wouldn't appear on the show, even the big soldier MMPR storm troopers. Lord Drakkon's helmet has the loving clasps and everything. Like, we have evil Tommy watching clips of goofy Power Ranger poo poo and being upset that they're not TAKING OVER THE WORLD, and then he puts on his motorcycle kitbashed stunt helmet to talk about how they could have been GODS as he has a bunch of naff CGI ships rise up in his super mega city that HAS THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE FRONT LAWN OF HIS EVIL TOWER That's loving pitch perfect right there. This isn't like Power/Rangers, which had swearing and blood and the really obnoxiously HARDCORE Ranger designs. Even the bad guy Rangers look like things you'd see in the show, just cosplay level. Now if it showed Evil Tommy, I don't know, keeping Kat a slave on a chain or murdering people in violent and bloody ways or cursing like a sailor, then I'd be WAY more sympathetic to the complaint. What I'm trying to say is, this is the kind of opening that would lead to Bulk and Skull saving the day through shenanigans, not them dying of a meth overdose.
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Mar 23, 2018 16:22
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How was that clip anymore "edgy" that what we saw of Lord Zedd in Season 2?
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Mar 23, 2018 16:37
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If it resembles anything as far as tone, it’s quite similar to those scenes in SPD of Grumm sitting around in the dark yelling at himself.
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Mar 23, 2018 17:07
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Grumm may be the best villain design from power rangers since Zedd. He was made by PR and not adapted from Sentai, right?
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Mar 23, 2018 17:10
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Grumm may be the best villain design from power rangers since Zedd. He was made by PR and not adapted from Sentai, right? That's correct, yes.
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Mar 23, 2018 17:11
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Yes. The creature design for SPD is some of the best in the franchise. Heck, Cruger still holds up over a decade later.
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Mar 23, 2018 17:12
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Are there any sentai villains as well designed visually as Zedd? Hell, Divatox, Astronema, Ransik, Trakeena, Lothor, Mesogog, they all look great.
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Mar 23, 2018 17:14
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The majority or the Zangyack, the Ayakashi of Shinkenger, all of Boukenger’s villains, Enter’s monster and Dark Buster forms, Ecliptor, Darkonda, Villamax’s sentai originators, the Shadow Line... they all have great designs. They’re just done with a very different approach than the American original stuff. While I do love a lot of the American original PR designs, a lot of it has the problem of not blending well with the rest of the aesthetic. SPD I think got lucky because Dekaranger had a lot of hard sci fi in it already, but characters like Zedd and Sledge stick out like sore thumbs next to their minions. Oh and the Psychorangers/Nejiranger are all great. Those originated in Japan too. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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Mar 23, 2018 17:22
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I didn't realize Sledge was kiwi. I thought he looked like a sentai character I kind of love Heckyl. I'm 2/3 through super charge though and they are telegraphing pretty hard he's just going to job to a returning Sledge. Also he'd be better if Snide didn't exist and if he didn't get caught in the act like three episodes in. John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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Mar 23, 2018 17:33
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He looks notably grungier than literally everyone else who works for him. He might as well be from another show.
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Mar 23, 2018 17:36
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The weirdest thing in terms of PR tone is that there's times when they casually throw out that the Bad Guys are actually competant against anyone but the Power Rangers. Zedd supposedly had an empire somewhere. Master Vile rules a bunch of places, too. The Machine Empire just needed Earth to complete a chain of galaxies (you know, just). When Astronema says to begin United Evil's attack on the universe, everywhere but Earth surrenders in a heartbeat while the Rangers fuss over ~this place~ or ~that place~ is under attack, defenseless, and there's nothing they can do about it because thousands of other places are dealing with the same thing. Sure, its for kids, so they just kinda gloss over most of that, but hoo boy there's an unintentional almost-Lovecraftian sense that the vast amount of places in the universe are undefended against evil forces.
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Mar 23, 2018 18:01
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MisterBibs posted:The weirdest thing in terms of PR tone is that there's times when they casually throw out that the Bad Guys are actually competant against anyone but the Power Rangers. Zedd supposedly had an empire somewhere. Master Vile rules a bunch of places, too. The Machine Empire just needed Earth to complete a chain of galaxies (you know, just). When Astronema says to begin United Evil's attack on the universe, everywhere but Earth surrenders in a heartbeat while the Rangers fuss over ~this place~ or ~that place~ is under attack, defenseless, and there's nothing they can do about it because thousands of other places are dealing with the same thing. The implication with a lot of MMPR monsters of the week (and Super Sentai monsters, for that matter) is that each one of them is a world-conquering threat if not opposed by the Power Rangers/current Sentai. Each individual monster in Lupinranger vs. Patranger, for example, is vying to personally conquer the human world so they can be the next interdimensional mafia don. So, basically any planet that doesn't happen to have Power Rangers (which is like, almost all of them apparently) can be taken down by a *single* Zedd monster, probably over the course of like 3 months.
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Mar 23, 2018 18:18
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deadly_pudding posted:The implication with a lot of MMPR monsters of the week (and Super Sentai monsters, for that matter) is that each one of them is a world-conquering threat if not opposed by the Power Rangers/current Sentai. Each individual monster in Lupinranger vs. Patranger, for example, is vying to personally conquer the human world so they can be the next interdimensional mafia don. So, basically any planet that doesn't happen to have Power Rangers (which is like, almost all of them apparently) can be taken down by a *single* Zedd monster, probably over the course of like 3 months. In fact, I think there's only like 4 other planets in the universe that we know of so far that actually have their own Power Rangers or PR-like figures (Aquitar, Triforia, Eltar and KO-35). I guess you could count Edenoi and wherever the Blue Senturion comes from as well if you wanted.
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Mar 23, 2018 18:26
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I would think Maya's homeworld, Mirinoi, counts. Also I think the sixth ranger in operation overdrive was randomly from some other planet. SPD seemed to have spread ranger powers out beyond Earth.
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Mar 23, 2018 18:49
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I would think Maya's homeworld, Mirinoi, counts. Also I think the sixth ranger in operation overdrive was randomly from some other planet. SPD takes place after all the Saban-Era stuff by like a solid 25 years or something, too, if it's going to be considered in the same canon. I guess it technically is via retcon in Super Megaforce. And all those guys were potential and/or accomplished planetary-scale threats, too, in the sentai at least. The guy that Kruger fights in the Shadow Ranger debut? When they name his crimes in the sentai, he's wanted for Space Landsharking, personally responsible for displacing billions of people from multiple worlds.
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Mar 23, 2018 19:01
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A reminder Pudgy Pig was a threat that would have, in Power Rangers, devoured the entire food supply of the WORLD in a matter of days. That is a really nasty way to wipe out a population and it's one of Rita's earliest plans.
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Mar 23, 2018 19:04
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I would think Maya's homeworld, Mirinoi, counts. Also I think the sixth ranger in operation overdrive was randomly from some other planet. Technically yes to the first one, but the sixth ranger from Overdrive didn't actually get his own set of Ranger powers until after he'd been on Earth for a while (said powers were also created by the same guy who made the other 5) so I'm not sure if that one really counts.
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Mar 23, 2018 19:10
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In one of the early episodes the rangers are trying to clean up pollution or something and Rita makes a pollution monster, and there's some dialogue that Rita says juxtaposed right after the rangers complain about some toxic waste dump that implies Rita actually owns the toxic waste dump.
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Mar 23, 2018 19:12
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Burkion posted:Pudgy Pig was a threat that would have, in Power Rangers, devoured the entire food supply of the WORLD in a matter of days. This is always my go-to for "how to remind people that this show is really silly at heart, and taking it too seriously is bad for you." That episode was basically voices shouting "global food crisis!" while the monster hosed around in Ernie's pantry.
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Mar 23, 2018 19:13
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Craptacular! posted:This is always my go-to for "how to remind people that this show is really silly at heart, and taking it too seriously is bad for you." That episode was basically voices shouting "global food crisis!" while the monster hosed around in Ernie's pantry. It's really great Even better when you know in the Sentai the pig monster was just to get a fat kid yelled at for apparently eating all of the food
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Mar 23, 2018 19:18
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I do love that in Zordon era he usually has deep lore on the various monsters that get created, at least in the first season. Closest we get to that again is SPD or Time Force, where they have some record of the various criminals they go up against. Season 3 Zordon is often "I have no idea. Be careful rangers"
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Mar 23, 2018 19:42
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Are there any sentai villains as well designed visually as Zedd? Hell, Divatox, Astronema, Ransik, Trakeena, Lothor, Mesogog, they all look great. The Lightspeed Rescue/GoGoV villains are definitely in that tier Burkion posted:A reminder Yeah and his Sentai equivalent Dora Circe had a similar purpose, albeit on a slightly smaller scale(just Tokyo), and in a much more petty fashion(Witch Bandora had him created in response to witnessing the "kid of the week" bonding with his parents over food, and she created Dora Circe to not only starve people to death by stealing all their food, but to also make families fight during that as well, cause Dora Circe has super speed and can steal food faster than people can see, so they think the person next to them stole their food) Basically Witch Bandora is ridiculously petty in a way that's terrifying when you consider how powerful she is
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Mar 23, 2018 20:21
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Soccadillo episode is when Rita is closest to Bandora and just wants to make fun of a kid that's terrible at soccer
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Mar 23, 2018 20:26
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Bandora is super petty about children because her kid died, right?
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Mar 23, 2018 22:37
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Kinda bummed, I was supposed to go to Alabama Comic Con this weekend where JDF is one of the main guests. Had some work stuff come up so now I can’t go. I did send my re-release flip Head figure with a friend to get signed.
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Mar 24, 2018 01:13
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I am super late to the party, but add me to the list of folks who love RPM. I’m about 10 episodes from the end, but I have really enjoyed myself with the show, characters, and worldbuilding.
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Mar 24, 2018 03:02
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Craptacular! posted:I get what he means, though. It’s very out of profile for the series, which is about guys in bright costumes karateing a rubber suit that has a silly theme, or two themes that don’t have any real connection.
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Mar 24, 2018 03:53
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Hell, Dr K's backstory is 120% hosed up horrific poo poo.
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Mar 24, 2018 04:15
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Gaz-L posted:Hell, Dr K's backstory is 120% hosed up horrific poo poo. She just wanted to go outside!
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Mar 24, 2018 04:29
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Morby posted:She just wanted to go outside! Best part? We, the audience, never find out her name. A shittier writer would have 'paid off' the longing "I wish I could remember my name" line with a reveal at some point, but nope.
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Mar 24, 2018 04:32
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Rubiks Pubes posted:Kinda bummed, I was supposed to go to Alabama Comic Con this weekend where JDF is one of the main guests. Had some work stuff come up so now I can’t go. I did send my re-release flip Head figure with a friend to get signed. Recently found my original one at my parents house. Didn't even remember owning it. Wish I still had my Dragonzord. Loved that toy something fierce. My best friend at the time had the Megazord, so we would team up.
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Mar 24, 2018 05:20
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It's kinda funny how Zord is short for Dinozord yet it was how many years/seasons till Dino Thunder where that pun/wordplay made no sense.
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Mar 24, 2018 05:46
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galagazombie posted:It's kinda funny how Zord is short for Dinozord yet it was how many years/seasons till Dino Thunder where that pun/wordplay made no sense. I always thought it was named after Zordon.
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