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doing more pretending im a character designer. I dunno what her shirt is supposed to be it looks like a kevlar halter top or something   I got in this really stupid habit of thinking that if you drew one character a bunch it was bad cause you were just being self indulgent or doing comfort zone drawings or something, which is bad cause like............. that's how you learn how to draw something
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Those are really cool. I really enjoy your sense of body language and gesture. That sheepish little wave he's doing in the bottom left of the first picture is excellent. Like that isn't an easy emotion to convey at the best of times, but on some weird fantasy lizard I dunno how I'd even begin.
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thanks lol I'm always afraid that the more actually emotive I make a drawing the uglier and more off model it is so I end up doing a lot of stern 3/4 grumpy faces
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Wowporn posted:doing more pretending im a character designer. I dunno what her shirt is supposed to be it looks like a kevlar halter top or something
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also I sketched this out in oils and once it dries I might make a go of fixing it up and finishing it, it's kind of cute I like it.
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Mar 26, 2018 05:09
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Sharpest Crayon posted:I finally got some pics of the watercolours I've been working on: Your style def jives very well with watercolor. IMHO much better than in digital, but that’s probably just my real media bias peeking through. 12/10 would mask again
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Mar 26, 2018 07:41
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Wowporn posted:I got in this really stupid habit of thinking that if you drew one character a bunch it was bad cause you were just being self indulgent or doing comfort zone drawings or something, which is bad cause like............. that's how you learn how to draw something I'm the same with visual diary stuff, I kept thinking it had to be of a finished quality to show to other people so I would rarely draw.
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Wowporn posted:I got in this really stupid habit of thinking that if you drew one character a bunch it was bad cause you were just being self indulgent or doing comfort zone drawings or something, which is bad cause like............. that's how you learn how to draw something I dunno what it is about drawing, but it seems to inculcate bizarre ideas about the "right" way of doing things. I thought for the longest time that using reference was somehow cheating, but, like... how else are you supposed to know how to draw something?
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Been off honeymooning, but have had some time to doodle things with varying degrees of success    And my favorite, which I proceeded to screw up   I think when I get home I’ll try putting some of my favorites from this binge to paint.
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Mar 26, 2018 21:39
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Neon Noodle posted:Radio your contour work is capital-E excellent but I would love to see more painterly or planar rendering too sometimes. Hey thanks! I would like to work more in that direction but I'm not sure how. I find online tutorials really useless, maybe I will put aside some cash and take an actual class. Because when I have tried to do so based on my own intuition, it usually comes out really ugly and disappointing so I go back to what I'm comfortable with, what gets a positive reaction from my peers and instagram. It is my comfort zone yeah, but I think stepping outside of that would be useful if it leads to growth. And I feel like I need some instruction to make it worthwhile.
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Mar 26, 2018 22:19
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Hmm SSource: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc9lXjBnicO/
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Vermain posted:I dunno what it is about drawing, but it seems to inculcate bizarre ideas about the "right" way of doing things. I thought for the longest time that using reference was somehow cheating, but, like... how else are you supposed to know how to draw something? I'm really glad I got over my prejudice for references. I still have a sort of similar issue though where, if I can't get an idea for something that's new -- even if it's just a pose, I don't want to draw it at all. A lot of the time that causes problems in trying to do a daily thing because I just can't think of anything interesting enough, even though anything at all would still be better than nothing. Anyway, here's today's sketch. https://twitter.com/Shinmera/status/978751922189619200
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Mar 27, 2018 22:56
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I loving love your style. That angular lines style is one of my favourite drawing styles and how I'm trying to develop.
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Mar 28, 2018 00:25
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I started this self-portrait to try out my new cintiq and just finished it today.
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Mar 28, 2018 06:31
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Still drawing Kirb More importantly though, my mother's birthday is this week. Since I'm poor I'm just drawing her a picture and framing it. Hopefully I can print it without mangling the quality. She liked the last picture I gave her (I think) so I think she will like this one too. Maybe.  Its a sun flower. Yeah I'm real fuckin clever 
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Pick posted:also I sketched this out in oils and once it dries I might make a go of fixing it up and finishing it, it's kind of cute I like it. Goddamn I love that sorrowful, fluffy face. Vermain posted:I dunno what it is about drawing, but it seems to inculcate bizarre ideas about the "right" way of doing things. I thought for the longest time that using reference was somehow cheating, but, like... how else are you supposed to know how to draw something? IKR!? AND the examples posted by TheMostFrench and Wowporn, how does this stuff keep popping up? I can't remember anyone ever telling me that it's not real art if there's outlines on it, but drat if that isn't stuck in my head. See also: you're not a good artist unless you know how to draw/paint anything and everything. Oh hey, I'd forgotten, did the winter sunflower print out ok then? I've found reds are super hard to get right when printing. But the flower's lovely and your mum will surely appreciate it. I learned a lesson I'd forgotten about IRL media when I was putting away that spider fishing pic and the corner tape curled up a bit and caught a table leg and now it's ripped and bent. 
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A neko atsume style cat I was commissioned for!! https://twitter.com/CatOperated/status/978726512890433538 https://twitter.com/rainbowfission/status/979047616578310145
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Sharpest Crayon posted:Oh hey, I'd forgotten, did the winter sunflower print out ok then? I've found reds are super hard to get right when printing. But the flower's lovely and your mum will surely appreciate it. I actually sent that picture to a company that prints them out on wooden slabs to create the illusion of them being painted by hand. I think it came out okay, and I think my mom liked it (its hard to tell sometimes/I can never take people's compliments at face value) but I don't have the time/money to do that this time. Plus I did want to try to printing and framing something from home to see if it was something I could do more often.  I think it came out okay, though you really can't tell because of how bad I am at taking photos. I did notice some mangling of quality by the printer though. Not sure if that's because of the printer (it is 10+ years old) or the way I printed it. People in the question thread advised always painting your pics way bigger than you intend to print the. I didn't do that because I've always found it more comfortable to work with the actual size I want the pic to be.
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d3c0y2 posted:I loving love your style. That angular lines style is one of my favourite drawing styles and how I'm trying to develop. Thank you for your comment. Sometimes feels like a crutch though, as the above exchange with user Neon Noodle pointed to. ANyway here's another sketch like this. These are really fun to do and i like how they look but they definitely don't capture the likeness of the source. There's a resemblance but it doesn't quite get there. Tried overlaying them in photoshop and there are some clear issues with proportions.  Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ0W2WfDRxf/
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I call this masterpiece: "Daily Doodle From Extreme Angle."
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Working on a little gif of an obscure game for fun. Its taking forever since I've manually made gifs like, twice, before now but its kind of fun.
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Sharpest Crayon posted:IKR!? AND the examples posted by TheMostFrench and Wowporn, how does this stuff keep popping up? I can't remember anyone ever telling me that it's not real art if there's outlines on it, but drat if that isn't stuck in my head. I don't know if this was just something I wrongly interpreted but it felt like a lot of teachers, older artists etc. in grade school made it sound like specializing was bad and that to be good you had to have experience drawing everything that existed to some degree, like if you were good enough and learned enough you wouldn't need to look at real things cause you'd just sorta know how to draw anything intuitively already. Then in college everyone says never draw fanart or self indulgent stuff you were either working on a 6 hour life drawing of orange peels on some lady's nude body or you were doing designs for some larger conceptual project or something (it doesn't help that my college treated every singe student like they were trying to become an independent visionary making some high art grand opus, rather than just like people who wanted to get really good at a specific set of skills so a studio would hire them. I really wish they would adjust to people with different priorities) I frequently think that people who spent like 12 years very passionately illustrating their warrior cats fanfiction or w/e throughout adolescence end up honing their skills better cause they just whole heartedly worked at the thing they liked most for thousands of hours instead of caring about being some perfectly well rounded art luminary that was a weird tangent so have this sketch I never scanned but just found under a bowl of cereal 
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Wowporn posted:Then in college everyone says never draw fanart or self indulgent stuff you were either working on a 6 hour life drawing of orange peels on some lady's nude body or you were doing designs for some larger conceptual project or something (it doesn't help that my college treated every singe student like they were trying to become an independent visionary making some high art grand opus, rather than just like people who wanted to get really good at a specific set of skills so a studio would hire them. I really wish they would adjust to people with different priorities) That sort of thinking is a very good way to pigeon hole yourself into running out of options. Being able to do more than a specific set of superficial things is a much more valuable skill (source: going to a school that sorta indulged in that, then watched nobody get jobs until they learned the fundamental lessons on their own) Cool drawing, tho I think I’m starting to get too toony with these, need to step back and re-evaluate 
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I mean from what I understand if you actually want to make a career out of art than the vast majority of the time you won't be drawing what you want anyways. If you want consistent work you need to be able to do a variety of projects and a vast skillset helps with that. If you are ultra specialized then you will struggle if you can't find any work that deals with that specialization, and art jobs are super limited so that's a pretty common scenario. Which is why I decided pursuing a career in art was hopeless and I'd enjoy it more as a hobby. I have no qualms with drawing tons of fanart since it might not be technically impressive but I have fun with it and some people enjoy it. I'd like to do more original pieces some day but I need to improve my fundamental skills to better express those visions.
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I haven't drawn in a very, very long time. I had inspiration to pick it back up the other day and then I realized this thread exists and you all motivate me to keep trying. mechanical pencil/charcoal on whatever paper I had lying around    
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Drawing is still uniquely difficult for me to just sit down and get on with, because it's incredibly hard to deprogram the idea that even dumb sketches are Important Art, something big and lofty on which your very worth as a human will be judged and condemned. If I'm in a group I can draw with no issue, it's when I'm alone that my treacherous brain pleads with me to stop. Case in point, I doodled this out at work in five minutes, while there's a single A3 sheet of maybe a half dozen similar sketches at home dating back to January. 
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Radio du Cambodge posted:Thank you for your comment. Sometimes feels like a crutch though, as the above exchange with user Neon Noodle pointed to. I get this sort of feeling. I've always struggled to do line art having been more painterly than draughtsmen and that's probably why I'm so envious of your lines! Wowporn posted:I don't know if this was just something I wrongly interpreted but it felt like a lot of teachers, older artists etc. in grade school made it sound like specializing was bad and that to be good you had to have experience drawing everything that existed to some degree, like if you were good enough and learned enough you wouldn't need to look at real things cause you'd just sorta know how to draw anything intuitively already. Then in college everyone says never draw fanart or self indulgent stuff you were either working on a 6 hour life drawing of orange peels on some lady's nude body or you were doing designs for some larger conceptual project or something (it doesn't help that my college treated every singe student like they were trying to become an independent visionary making some high art grand opus, rather than just like people who wanted to get really good at a specific set of skills so a studio would hire them. I really wish they would adjust to people with different priorities) Alternative to this sort of thinking is looking at someone like me. I didn't go to art school and basically can only draw what I've gone out and attempted to learn myself. The result is I can do portraits but as soon as I try and draw a landscape or a full figure my quality of art drops by a large margin. Because I simply don't have the skill set yet to tackle these things. I'm envious of those people with a wider breadth of knowledge. Because whenever I finish a piece it doesn't feel like I've created art, it feels like it's always missing a touch of something outside my skill set.
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I think you can easily (albeit slowly) learn figure drawing if you just find a weekly life drawing session and stick with it for a while. In art school they give you some anatomy tips but you actually learn most of it by practicing, observing and getting critiqued. And if you want your stuff to have a more artistic feel I would suggest that you experiment with your techniques and accept that sometimes it just won't work. Grab the pencil a different way, use other materials, give yourself some restrictions (e.g. only use vertical lines or use line thickness to indicate distance). There's a myriad things you can do and eventually you'll find something that works for you, and as a bonus it will make the process much more fun.
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Radio du Cambodge posted:Thank you for your comment. Sometimes feels like a crutch though, as the above exchange with user Neon Noodle pointed to.
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Yeah my local art gallery does a two hour figure drawing session every Saturday . The gallery is in walking distance, the issue is cost. (10 pound a week can add up) and the fact I have no idea were to begin. Most people who go there are artists or arty people and I don't want to go as a complete novice and feel like I'm wasting my money and their time. So at the moment I'm learning a lot from online tutorials and photos... but it's hard finding good reference photos for that. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and go.
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Unless you are downright doing something to distract the other people nobody will care about your level of expertise, some people may even offer advice if you ask during the breaks. They will also probably have some sort of schedule where they do some quick poses and one or more longer poses later so you don't even need to decide where to start.
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Shinmera posted:I'm really glad I got over my prejudice for references. I still have a sort of similar issue though where, if I can't get an idea for something that's new -- even if it's just a pose, I don't want to draw it at all. A lot of the time that causes problems in trying to do a daily thing because I just can't think of anything interesting enough, even though anything at all would still be better than nothing. Never not draw or post. Much like my opinion of Superfly's dog posts, I absolutely love your style. And like I told him, I'm a mundane who doesn't art anymore but I love this thread and your posts are always fantastic. All of you keep it up. I love this thread.
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d3c0y2 posted:Yeah my local art gallery does a two hour figure drawing session every Saturday . The gallery is in walking distance, the issue is cost. (10 pound a week can add up) and the fact I have no idea were to begin. Most people who go there are artists or arty people and I don't want to go as a complete novice and feel like I'm wasting my money and their time. Life drawing is fun so I say go for it. Email/call the organizer in advance for a recommended supply list and let them know that you’re new to drawing and can only afford to go every few weeks. They’ll probably be fine with it (the one I went to would actually let you pay with snacks if you were poor that week). There’s normally a wide range of experience and skill at these things so you probably won’t be the only n00b there. Pluss, at least here in the states I know that a lot of the more established artists actually like helping out new artists as long as they’re serious about learning so you won’t be seen as a burden or anything.
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d3c0y2 posted:Alternative to this sort of thinking is looking at someone like me. I didn't go to art school and basically can only draw what I've gone out and attempted to learn myself. I say just do whatever gives you motivation. Schools don't magically infuse you with skill, they mostly provide you with a set path to follow, and most importantly a good excuse to spend lots of time practising. However, it certainly doesn't work for everyone either. I know I couldn't do it because it would stress me out too much. On the other hand, I know that feeling of dread when faced with something you haven't tackled yet all too well. What helped me a lot with learning to draw people was to focus on doing things quick. There's a couple of sites online that give you a slideshow of sorts with five to sixty seconds to sketch per reference. I did a ton of that stuff, and simply tried (and still do) to understand and copy reference material that I think looks appealing. WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:Never not draw or post. Much like my opinion of Superfly's dog posts, I absolutely love your style. And like I told him, I'm a mundane who doesn't art anymore but I love this thread and your posts are always fantastic. Thank you very much. It really means a lot to me to hear that! For today, another scenery drawing, but this time in comic page form: https://twitter.com/Shinmera/status/979485172327419905 I spent a good 30 minutes trying to find a simple shading that wouldn't look like rear end, but ended up scrapping most of the attempts. I'm still not sure if I shouldn't have just left it pure b/w.
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School definitely gave me a good foundation of basic art skills but I get frustrated that I never actually got good enough at one thing to qualify for a professional level anything, after some time away I'm rejiggering my portfolio and I'm more confident now I'll actually have the skills to do something I think if I had gone to school but not cared about actually graduating/fulfilling the degree I could have cut the fat with some of the non major related requirements (I will never ever make another clay pot) and taken more specialized classes in the couple things I was most interested in and gotten the best parts of both
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