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hibernation is dumb and poo poo and eats up 12.5% of my ssd for something I never use and keeps turning itself on after every major update
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Mar 23, 2018 14:31
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Volguus posted:While on the desktop I do have a larger SSD, throwing away 32GB or 64GB of them for something I would never use is dumb. Is even dumber to do the same thing on a portable where space is at a premium (they seem to price their lovely storage like printer companies price their ink). That they shaved off space form the initial installation is good, now you're taking all back by creating a hibernate file as big as the ram? Good on you microsoft. But they didn't do it because of the portables only, they recognized it as a problem after they released win7 as SSDs started to become more popular but were quite small (my first SSD was 80GB and I paid $200+ on it back almost a decade ago) and therefore they couldn't assume you will have the terabyte hdd as before. You have no understanding of systems you're complaining about. The default hibernation file size is proportional to the amount of RAM you have and it's less than the size of your RAM. Microsoft designs their hardware accordingly, using your Surface Pro example: there are no 8GB/128GB or 16GB/128GB models, the RAM always increases proportionally with the storage. If you have a Surface Pro you've been using hibernate already because it's configured to hibernate after sleeping for a few hours on battery power out of the box. Desktop hardware specs can vary more but I don't believe for a second you had a 64GB RAM system with a small 80GB SSD and no additional drives for storage in 2008, and if you somehow actually did that's entirely your fault because no OEM sells computers with that configuration as a default for a reason. That's so far out of line from standard specs that you're clearly a power user who can manage your own system and Microsoft has no reason to cater the defaults to you, you can go change them to what you feel is necessary instead. Good to see you've walked back from "don't make any concessions for portables" to "okay just make it a toggle for desktops". Congratulations, the system settings have been configurable all this time. You're just mad that the defaults aren't perfect for your special snowflake use case.
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Mar 23, 2018 14:49
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isndl posted:You have no understanding of systems you're complaining about. The default hibernation file size is proportional to the amount of RAM you have and it's less than the size of your RAM. Microsoft designs their hardware accordingly, using your Surface Pro example: there are no 8GB/128GB or 16GB/128GB models, the RAM always increases proportionally with the storage. If you have a Surface Pro you've been using hibernate already because it's configured to hibernate after sleeping for a few hours on battery power out of the box. Desktop hardware specs can vary more but I don't believe for a second you had a 64GB RAM system with a small 80GB SSD and no additional drives for storage in 2008, and if you somehow actually did that's entirely your fault because no OEM sells computers with that configuration as a default for a reason. That's so far out of line from standard specs that you're clearly a power user who can manage your own system and Microsoft has no reason to cater the defaults to you, you can go change them to what you feel is necessary instead. I never walked back on anything , it is still a dumb setting. It always was, it always will. But if you double down on it as being the best thing since sliced bread ... who am i to stand in your way to happiness? In 2008 or so I had that 80GB SSd and 12GB of ram (triple channel bullshit). No idea how common it was or how much of a special snowflake i am, but 12Gb on an 80GB SSD was significant. Hell, 8GB on a 128GB SSD is not something i'd wanna waste for something like this.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:23
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Geemer posted:Serious Hardware / Software Crap > Windows 10: Fighting over Bad Opinions This last week has been terrible.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:37
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Volguus posted:And that's exactly what I don't want. And it takes hdd space, where especially on portable devices is at a premium. For example the $1000 CAD Microsoft Surface Pro Core M 4GB 128GB has (as the name implies) 128GB SSD. The hiberfile on my i7 Surface Pro with 8GB of RAM is 3.3GB. The 4GB won't be losing any real space.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:46
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powercfg -h off is the first thing I do in every system I set up. Fight me but you'll lose.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:55
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I've determined this is the thread for complaining about Microsoft, not for asking technical questions about Microsoft products.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:55
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KillHour posted:I've determined this is the thread for complaining about Microsoft, not for asking technical questions about Microsoft products. Isn't that in every thread? They're so big that is inevitable that from the outside it looks like they only do stupid poo poo. The brilliance is often hidden in blogs like "the old new thing".
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Mar 23, 2018 16:52
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bobfather posted:powercfg -h off is the first thing I do in every system I set up. Fight me but you'll lose. I do that too, but that’s ‘cause I dual-boot(or even triple-boot) and hibernation on Win10 causes NTFS to go insane with errors when booting a different OS then going back to Win10.
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Mar 23, 2018 17:43
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KillHour posted:I've determined this is the thread for complaining about Microsoft, not for asking technical questions about Microsoft products. Also for complaining about Chrome and trying to pin it on Microsoft. Anything goes!
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Mar 23, 2018 18:03
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xamphear posted:This last week has been terrible. Nuke and pave this thread. E: oh, and disable hibernation right away. E2: so we can truly, actually shut it down. Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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Mar 23, 2018 22:37
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So I’m getting a bunch of weird rear end errors with windows update and google chrome doesn’t want to auto update either. I’ve already done Sfc and dism fixes, ran the windows update troubleshooter etc etc Should I just nuke it and install fresh?
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Mar 23, 2018 22:45
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Bob NewSCART posted:So I’m getting a bunch of weird rear end errors with windows update and google chrome doesn’t want to auto update either. I’ve already done Sfc and dism fixes, ran the windows update troubleshooter etc etc Ugh, these situations always suck. Even if you might be willing to invest the time, you can't know it's even going to work. Can you be more specific?
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Mar 23, 2018 22:58
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Bob NewSCART posted:So I’m getting a bunch of weird rear end errors with windows update and google chrome doesn’t want to auto update either. I’ve already done Sfc and dism fixes, ran the windows update troubleshooter etc etc 1803 comes out in the next month if you want to wait and see if the upgrade install fixes it.
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Mar 23, 2018 23:39
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I fixed a really annoying problem with Windows Update over the weekend that sfc/dism/etc didn't fix that I eventually tracked back to SYSTEM losing permissions on some folders in %windir% Your issue may be totally different, but worth a look.
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Mar 26, 2018 12:29
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I'm trying to restore my old iPod Classic, and I'd like to make sure all my flac files have corresponding AIFF versions. How can I diff two directories recursively and ignore file extensions?
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Mar 26, 2018 19:21
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Anyone know how to get the Action Center and notifications to appear in both the primary and secondary display? I want to be able to see notifications and access the action center without having to alt-tab out of full screen and windowed full screen apps, but I can't find a solution.
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Mar 26, 2018 20:32
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Jack the Lad posted:I fixed a really annoying problem with Windows Update over the weekend that sfc/dism/etc didn't fix that I eventually tracked back to SYSTEM losing permissions on some folders in %windir% Hipster_Doofus posted:Ugh, these situations always suck. Even if you might be willing to invest the time, you can't know it's even going to work. Can you be more specific? astral posted:1803 comes out in the next month if you want to wait and see if the upgrade install fixes it. I ended up saying gently caress it and reformatting both my drives and starting fresh because it seemed like whatever was causing trouble was deep rooted. How did you solve that permissions issue btw jack?
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Mar 26, 2018 21:30
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I installed Windows 10 Pro on a new system I built this week, and the option in the Windows 10 Mail app to sync my items "As they arrive" is gone. It's there on my previous computer, so...what's up with that? Using it with gmail. E: Nevermind. I checked again and now it's there 
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Mar 26, 2018 23:39
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:I installed Windows 10 Pro on a new system I built this week, and the option in the Windows 10 Mail app to sync my items "As they arrive" is gone. It's there on my previous computer, so...what's up with that? Using it with gmail. Its odd, when you add accounts to Mail you have to let it 'sit' for a few minutes for the settings to kick in. Really annoying.
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Bob NewSCART posted:I ended up saying gently caress it and reformatting both my drives and starting fresh because it seemed like whatever was causing trouble was deep rooted. How did you solve that permissions issue btw jack? I made a new admin account (not sure if that was necessary in the end), manually gave it full access to the files in the folder WU couldn't write to according to the error logs, deleted them, deleted and recreated the empty folder, then stepped back up and manually added SYSTEM back onto the parent folder.
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Mar 27, 2018 00:35
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I just suddenly got a pop up out of nowhere urging me to log into the microsoft store. I manually deleted the store app months ago because I don't use it. Has anyone had this popup recently and know which app causes it to appear, so I can delete it?
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Mar 29, 2018 19:52
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I had that too and ~Microsoft~
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Mar 29, 2018 20:05
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I just got that too but I was logged into it.
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Mar 29, 2018 20:23
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So I'm doing a PC repair on a Dell from 2016. Main board is toast along with access to the OEM Win10 product key... Machine doesn't boot any way of course. Called Dell and they won't give a replacement product key... and they no longer provide them on the machine (according to them this is MS's fault)... TLDR; write down your built-in OEM product key while your prebuilt POS still works -_-
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Slayerjerman posted:So I'm doing a PC repair on a Dell from 2016. Main board is toast along with access to the OEM Win10 product key... Machine doesn't boot any way of course. Sounds like a simple case of 'escalate', but I'd agree with you that this isn't MS's fault.
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Mar 30, 2018 06:14
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It can't be extracted when the machine boots with a new motherboard?
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Mar 30, 2018 09:41
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OEM product keys are kept on the motherboard, so when you boot with the new motherboard there will be no key on it to retrieve. If you still have a working hard drive then Windows will boot up, match its activation hash against the key on the motherboard (which isn't there) and deactivate because you have no valid digital entitlement for that 'device'. Normally what would happen is that during a warranty repair or a licensed repair the technician will replace the motherboard, boot off a USB device that enables them to insert the OEM key onto the BIOS then you're away laughing. Otherwise, the replacement of the motherboard is typically seen as a 'device change' for licensing purposes even if it's of the same model because its one of the edge cases of OEM licensing where the soft intent is that the license 'dies' after the computer becomes obsolete which when all this poo poo was decided was like slightly longer than a standard warranty. Dell is technically correct in that it's Microsoft's "fault" for no longer providing product keys on stickers because people would just salvage keys from every machine going rather than buying new ones, so they pushed for the BIOS key as part of their licensing deals.
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I think the free windows 10 upgrade thing still works even though Microsoft said they were ending it. Do you have an old windows 7 key around?
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Mar 30, 2018 14:08
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It still works. I have upgraded a couple of pc's this year. Does it even require a valid key? I think it even works with windows which are not activated..
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:It can't be extracted when the machine boots with a new motherboard? You can actually desolder or unplug the BIOS chip and dump it using something like a Rasberry Pi, then search through the dump for the product key. Don't ask me how I know you can do that .. 
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Doesn't the windows installation know the key (ie it's on the hard disk somewhere)? Or does the local activation information not include that?
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Mar 30, 2018 16:46
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mystes posted:Doesn't the windows installation know the key (ie it's on the hard disk somewhere)? Or does the local activation information not include that? It knows the 'hardware hash' far as I can tell. MS tracks keys, so if one gets activated to a hardware hash, you cant reuse it. Thing is, I do not think the embedded BIOS key is ever directly activated against the hardware (on an OEM machine) unless you actually pull it and shove it into the product key dialog box. I could be wrong, but this has worked for some systems that had windows 8 embedded keys, then activating those keys with Windows 10 using the normal dialog boxes.
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KillHour posted:I think the free windows 10 upgrade thing still works even though Microsoft said they were ending it. Do you have an old windows 7 key around? Even if it doesn’t, this thread told me last month to just buy a key off eBay. I got a Pro key for about $5.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Even if it doesn’t, this thread told me last month to just buy a key off eBay. I got a Pro key for about $5. Same. If it ever stops working, OH gently caress $5.
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Mar 30, 2018 19:04
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I got a free W10 pro key from my pirated copy of W7 Used it for like 3 reinstalls so far
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Mar 30, 2018 22:51
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Any legit 7 key can be used to activate 10 once, on one hardware hash. The way around it if you care to gently caress around is activate 7 using whatever, then install 10 as an upgrade, it will activate with a hardware hash for that mobo. This means you can use the old trick of calling in windows 7 activation and saying it was loaded on one computer, etc, then install Win 10 as an upgrade, presto.
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why has microsoft photos suddenly started crashing about 2 seconds after I run it, occasionally (2 times out of about 10) bluescreening my machine on the way in 2018 what the gently caress
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