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Regy Rusty posted:If they stop the earth from being destroyed, frozen Fitz will also never make it there. So either that's okay and it's just branching timelines, or it's impossible and they can't change anything. Fitz gets kidnapped so they have to go wake up the other Fitz because they need a scientist and after everything's been settled they just put him back in the cryo-coffin.
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Ojjeorago posted:They leave Fitz in 600 AD and come back to get him later, and then they have to give jerky to the mayor in the past so his descendants aren’t greedy and they can get the Rainbow Shell. PierreTheMime posted:The team gets antagonized by a Dalton again. Checks out. I love this. It makes me miss Ward even more, but I love it.
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PierreTheMime posted:The team gets antagonized by a Dalton again. Checks out. Ward becomes Biff then?
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RareAcumen posted:Fitz gets kidnapped so they have to go wake up the other Fitz because they need a scientist and after everything's been settled they just put him back in the cryo-coffin. Deek: Fitz still doesn't have his head in the game. He can't solve this by himself! Coulson: But what if... we had two Fitzes? Jemma: 
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Mar 27, 2018 17:29
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Just do it Farscape style and have two Fitzes, one married to Jemma and one not. And they get split up such that she is stuck with the one she's not married to.
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Mar 27, 2018 17:54
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PierreTheMime posted:The team gets antagonized by a Dalton again. Checks out. The entire future arc had me thinking of "HP/MP restored, but you're still hungry." Also, if Fitz dies, but is replaced at the last moment by the Fitzcicle via time fuckery, that would be great, and I'll be looking for a singing, hispanic, cat LMD. turn left hillary!! noo posted:Just do it Farscape style and have two Fitzes, one married to Jemma and one not. Avatar/Post combo, I guess?
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STAC Goat posted:I temporary interrupt the thread gooning to say I finally got around to watching this episode and GOD drat was that a good episode. Like I'm not usually a "good episode, bad episode" person as I prefer to judge the story as a whole. But drat, that was a killer episode. I IRL "oh shitted" when they did the Fitz-Club reveal. Extreeemely good poo poo.
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lol but seriously I posted:I IRL "oh shitted" when they did the Fitz-Club reveal. Extreeemely good poo poo. I think I also yelled "Oh poo poo!" and literally jumped to the edge of my seat when Daisy whimpered "Who are you talking to?" Well I jumped to the edge of my seat when Jemma put together the "aggravate an old injury" thing with Fitz and ran off. But I was still processing that and trying to figure out how the Fear Dimension could make Fitz brain damaged when Daisy said that and I yelled.
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I thought they were both figments, and I was right... sort of.
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Fear dimension had gently caress all to do with Fitz' dissociative episode. Just stress, exhaustion, and guilt. It was a great reveal. So good.
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Aleph Null posted:Fear dimension had gently caress all to do with Fitz' dissociative episode. Just stress, exhaustion, and guilt. It was a great reveal. So good. Yeah, that was obvious in the end. I'm saying I was still processing my way through "Wait... could the Fear Dimension be doing this or..." when Daisy dropped the bomb. Fitz made it pretty clear afterwards that he had been hearing the Doctor's voice ever since the Framework and all that time he spent alone last pod was all time no one was watching him while he was probably falling apart.
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Yeah, remember that he was in solitary for months trying to figure out what had happened to the rest of the team and some of his conclusions were leading him down the road of "it's my fault". Pretty easy to see how that'd lead him to the mindset he's in now.
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Yeah, and then after a short period of time with a couple of friends in Enoch and Hunter he ends up spending hundreds of years in suspended animation and who the hell knows what that does to a mind? We saw hints of him being more ruthless in those episodes, as well as him kind of losing it in solitary a little. That all kind of got easily explained by the circumstances but it was never really directly addressed and in hindsight it makes a lot of sense that he was having his dissociative breakdown and hearing/seeing the Doctor the whole time. Just another one of those really good SHIELD groundwork things that makes more sense looking back after the big reveal.
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STAC Goat posted:We saw hints of him being more ruthless in those episodes, as well as him kind of losing it in solitary a little. That all kind of got easily explained by the circumstances but it was never really directly addressed and in hindsight it makes a lot of sense that he was having his dissociative breakdown and hearing/seeing the Doctor the whole time. Guys I'm starting to worry that Whittaker isn't going to regenerate into a very nice person at the end of her run
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Mar 28, 2018 04:23
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Gonz posted:I hope there's at least one more Powers Boothe appearance on this show. He died before they even started filming this season.
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Gonz posted:I hope there's at least one more Powers Boothe appearance on this show. What, like they exhume the actor's corpse?
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Rhyno posted:He died before they even started filming this season. Open Source Idiom posted:What, like they exhume the actor's corpse? Yes, I know, but CGI has come a long way.
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Gonz posted:Yes, I know, but CGI has come a long way. LoL, on this budget?
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My friend, have you heard of Reddit poster "deepfakes" and his... "special software?" Someone who hates kids that don't die in school shootings does, and their budget can't be that big either.
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Rhyno posted:LoL, on this budget? Time for ABC/Disney to empty their TV coffers in exchange for CGI Powers Boothe showing up in the season finale and clotheslining someone.
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Gonz posted:Time for ABC/Disney to empty their TV coffers in exchange for CGI Powers Boothe showing up in the season finale and clotheslining someone. Powers Boothe would have been a pretty dope pro wrestling moniker, yeah.
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Rhyno posted:He died before they even started filming this season. But...but... deadwood movie.... 
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Rhyno posted:LoL, on this budget? They'll just take his scenes from Sin City and shoot around them.
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Mar 28, 2018 12:54
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Sloth Life posted:The ghost ship trap a few episodes back has taken on a new meaning I think it’s the same meaning. Even at the time, literally everyone else in the scene was acting completely “What the gently caress, Leopold?!?” and Fitz was super duper ice cold about it. If your first thought wasn’t “Director Fitz” then I don’t know what to tell you. Like, Fitz having some sort of dissociative episode was shocking, but not all that surprising or unforeshadowed.
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double nine posted:when was this again? I might have missed it Episode 10, Past Life.
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double nine posted:when was this again? I might have missed it It was late into the future story after Fitz had been reunited with everyone. A bunch of them were being pursued by Kree and Fitz set a trap wire that decapitated them all. It was cold and ruthless and everyone including Jemma were visibly taken aback. But someone dismissed it as necessary given the circumstances and they moved in. There was definitely some implication there that Fitz might have some affect from the Doctor but since it wasn't directly addressed it fell to the back burner. And obviously no one anticipated that he was literally hearing voices.
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STAC Goat posted:It was late into the future story after Fitz had been reunited with everyone. A bunch of them were being pursued by Kree and Fitz set a trap wire that decapitated them all. It was cold and ruthless and everyone including Jemma were visibly taken aback. But someone dismissed it as necessary given the circumstances and they moved in. Jemma also has them basically suck a bunch of people into the void of space like 2 minutes later, which was pretty grim for her. The Fitz stuff was really well done, I do wonder how they walk it back enough to have any sort of return to normal if the show continues (or provide a satisfying ending should it end). Deke's memories imply that Fitz at some point goes back to being at least close to his former self.
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STAC Goat posted:There was definitely some implication there that Fitz might have some affect from the Doctor but since it wasn't directly addressed it fell to the back burner. And obviously no one anticipated that he was literally hearing voices. Wasn't there a direct allusion to Fitz's experience in the Framework and what carried over from that when he and Enoch were first discussing Enoch's plan of having Fitz portray a space pirate or whatever? Like, Enoch asks him if he can be this ice cold, murderous, conniving marauder, and Fitz thinks for a moment and then goes, "Yup, shouldn't be a problem." They've laid the groundwork for this pretty methodically.
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Ouhei posted:Jemma also has them basically suck a bunch of people into the void of space like 2 minutes later, which was pretty grim for her. Yeah, that was sthe trick. Jemma did some cold stuff and YoYo and Mack were debating the need to be ruthless in a war/desperate situation. So Fitz's actions were able to be dismissed as just what needed to be done at the time. poo poo was dark. But they made a point to show us everyone being surprised and shocked and him not and it was great foreshadowing for that moment. Along with his other isolation, solitary, and stuff.
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Ouhei posted:Jemma also has them basically suck a bunch of people into the void of space like 2 minutes later, which was pretty grim for her. Fitz gonna turn Jemma to the dark side and the two of them are going to mad scientist it up. 
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Chokes McGee posted:Fitz gonna turn Jemma to the dark side and the two of them are going to mad scientist it up. But enough about their sex life.
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, that was sthe trick. Jemma did some cold stuff and YoYo and Mack were debating the need to be ruthless in a war/desperate situation. So Fitz's actions were able to be dismissed as just what needed to be done at the time. poo poo was dark. But they made a point to show us everyone being surprised and shocked and him not and it was great foreshadowing for that moment. Along with his other isolation, solitary, and stuff. Yeah, it's great looking back and seeing how well this show sets stuff up. I'm hoping the next season (if we get one) is a bit less dark than the last few. The show is great but I do miss some of the lightheartedness it had before. Chokes McGee posted:Fitz gonna turn Jemma to the dark side and the two of them are going to mad scientist it up. I did love her reaction to the whole thing, I was afraid they were going to have her recoil from him super fast which would have been annoying as hell all things considered.
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Even right after they get out of the framework Fitz starts having a meltdown and Jemma and the others tell him to get it together and it's not his fault, plus Ada was coming after them. It seemed a bit weird for them to drop it after that but the show's done its best to show they've had no time to breathe since the Framework, really.
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Ouhei posted:I did love her reaction to the whole thing, I was afraid they were going to have her recoil from him super fast which would have been annoying as hell all things considered.
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