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GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

Welcome to the physical media thread! This will be the defacto thread for discussion of all types of physical home media from DVD to UHD and beyond.

Why would I buy a stupid disc when I could just stream it?
To a lot of people the biggest answer is “streaming speeds.” ISPs can charge ludicrous amounts of money for Internet and speeds, resulting in stuttering and low-quality presentations of your favorite media. Streaming as a platform in general also results in compression which reduces the audio and video quality of the media. When you buy physical media, the only limitation on these is the TV and sound system you own.

What's the difference between Blu-ray and UHD?
UHD discs are the new step-up in physical media quality. While blu-ray will give you a 1080p presentation, UHD allows for a stunning 4K presentation. The largest benefit UHD discs have over blu-rays, however, is HDR.


What's HDR?
If you have a 4k TV that supports HDR (High Dynamic Range), it allows for a wider contrast ratio as well as a wider color gamut. This results in your TV being able to display supported media closer to the original scan of the film, which is mutes these qualities in lesser resolutions. For more information, here's a very detailed article by CNET explaining it.

Hey, I want to buy some physical media but I hate that mainstream superhero poo poo, is there anything for me?

Egbert Souse posted:

A quick guide to boutique labels...

The Criterion Collection (US/CA/UK)

Started in 1984 as a joint venture between film distributor Janus Films and laserdisc manufacturer Voyager, Criterion has become the gold standard of stellar home video releases. They switched from laserdisc to DVD in March 1998 and later began releasing Blu-rays in December 2008. The label is best known for high quality, restored presentations of films with extensive supplemental features. Their second laserdisc, King Kong, featured the first audio commentary track (though, Orson Welles was approached to record one for Citizen Kane prior to his death). While they release many arthouse and foreign films, such as those by the directors like Ingmar Bergman, Akira Kurosawa, and Federico Fellini; they also release many mainstream and cult films by newer directors like Wes Anderson and Richard Linklater. Their eclectic range of titles include film school staples (The Seventh Seal, 8 1/2), mainstream hits (Dr. Strangelove, Night of the Living Dead), cult classics (Multiple Maniacs, House), and deep obscurities (A Hollis Frampton Odyssey, Jean Painleve: Science is Fiction).

Recent and upcoming releases (as of April 2018) include: Night of the Living Dead, The Silence of the Lambs, Elevator to the Gallows, Tom Jones, The Passion of Joan of Arc, Dead Man, King of Jazz, Women in Love, An Actor's Revenge, Bowling for Columbine, and Female Trouble.

Shout! Factory (US)

Started as a primarily music-oriented label in 2002 by former founders of Rhino Records. They specialize in cult classics, horror, and sci-fi. Among their most frequently released directors are John Carpenter, Sam Raimi, Brian DePalma, Joe Dante, and Tobe Hooper. Shout! also owns the rights to Mystery Science Theater 3000 and Roger Corman's self-produced films, as well as US distributor for IFC Films and Studio Ghibli.

Recent and upcoming releases (as of April 2018) include: Carrie, Drag Me to Hell, The Thing, Curse of the Cat People, It's Alive, In the Mouth of Madness, Wild at Heart, and Matinee.

Kino Lorber (US)

One of the oldest home video labels has gone through many changes since its founding in 1977 as a theatrical distributor. Best known for their releases of silent cinema and foreign films. Currently, while also specializing in silent cinema (being the US distributor for nearly all German silent films), they have also branched out to mainstream studio libraries. Their sublabel Kino Lorber Studio Classics mines the MGM, Fox, and Paramount libraries for both well-known and obscure films.

Recent and upcoming releases (as of April 2018) include: Fritz Lang: The Silent Films, The Outer Limits: Season 1, The Lion in Winter, The Covered Wagon, Seven Beauties, and Pioneers of African-American Cinema.

Arrow Video (UK/US/CA)

While originally known as purveyor of shlock and cult titles only when they began releasing on VHS in 1991, Arrow has become an equal to Criterion in terms of presentation quality and supplements. Releasing a wide range of films such as cult classics like Zardoz, Forbidden Zone, and the films of Herschell Gordon Lewis; they have also branched into classic and arthouse cinema with films like Sullivan's Travels and The Tree of Wooden Clogs. In 2014, they started their US branch and have released many titles in both US and UK territories, though many UK exclusives are available from other labels. They supervise many 2K and 4K restorations, including some imported into the US by other labels (Criterion used their 2K remaster of Time Bandits).

Recent and upcoming releases (as of April 2018) include: Last House on the Left (US/UK), The Marx Brothers at Paramount (UK), Between Night and Dawn (early George Romero features - US/UK), and Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (UK).

Masters of Cinema (UK)

While only working on a fraction of output today, in its prime MoC was considered the Criterion of England. They have specialized in silent films by Fritz Lang, F.W. Murnau, and Ernst Lubitsch; as well as other classic and arthouse films. One hallmark of their editions is the inclusion of books, sometimes over 200 pages! Do note that all of their releases are coded for Region B only except for a few (Sunrise and City Girl). Most releases use existing masters by studios rather than any in-house work other than encoding/compression.

Essential releases include: Man with the Movie Camera and Other Works by Dziga Vertov, Nosferatu, Intolerance, Metropolis, and Fear and Desire.

Twilight Time (US)

One of the few labels that releases only strict quantities, usually 3000. Main hallmark of their releases is the inclusion of music-only tracks and commentaries. Only available on their website and Screen Archives Entertainment, besides second-hand copies on Amazon and eBay. Variable quality, as they only use existing masters provided by studios with rare exceptions. They did supervise a re-timing of John Huston's Moby Dick, though based on an existing transfer. Many releases use fresh 4K masters provided by Sony and Fox.

Notable releases include: The Blob (1988), Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, A Man for All Seasons, Zardoz, and The Birth of a Nation (coming soon).

Vinegar Syndrome (US)

One of the newest boutique studios, formed as a result of a highly successful Kickstarter campaign to remaster obscure films like those of Herschel Gordon Lewis. Specializing in everything from low-budget indies like the films of Rudy Ray Moore and Melvin van Peebles to pornos. They also have a side label, Etiquette Pictures, that releases obscure "regular" films like Catch My Soul. Usually perform their own high quality 2K and 4K restorations.

Notable releases include: Christmas Evil, Hobgoblins, Liquid Sky, Ice Cream Man, Jack Frost, and Dolemite.

Olive Films (US)

Originally started as a small label for new-to-DVD/Blu-ray Paramount films, they have branched into licensing from Republic, MGM and Fox as well. A relatively small studio, but highlights would be their Olive Signature Line featuring remasters and extras.

Notable releases include The Quiet Man, Welles' Macbeth, High Noon, Letter to an Unknown Woman, and Johnny Guitar.

Synapse Films (US)

Founded by Don May, former key figure of Elite Entertainment and Dark Sky Films, the label specializes in many underground cult and horror films. Best known for releases of Manos: The Hands of Fate and The Creeping Terror, as well as new restorations of Dario Argento films like Suspiria, Tenebre, and Inferno. Also released Thundercrack!, which is the most hosed up movie I've ever seen (yes, it's hardcore).

Flicker Alley (US)

Relatively new label specializing in silent cinema. Main output for Blackhawk Films and Lobster Films, as well as Cinerama and The Film Noir Foundation. Notable releases include This is Cinerama, Early Women Filmmakers, 3-D Rarities, The Lost World (silent), and Charlie Chaplin's Keystone, Essanay, and Mutual comedies.



Useful links
Blu-ray.com- A great resource for checking quality of titles. Some early reviews when the format was new are wrong/outdated, but the reviewers usually go into their picture and audio reviews. Also a great place to keep track of your collection online.
DVD Beaver- Reviews and screenshots comparing various older formats to new releases.
High Def Digest- More reviews and screenshots
Real or Fake 4k- A site that lets you know if the scan your UHD disc was filmed in 4k or upconverted. This is not the end-all-be-all quality tester, but this website also shows which UHD titles support HDR.

MZ Edit:
A giant list of boutique labels

Somebody fucked around with this message at 15:14 on May 21, 2021

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Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
YOU MANIAC! YOU BLEW IT UP! AAAAHH drat YOU

I, Butthole
Jun 30, 2007

Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas threads, etcetera.
I DEMAND IT
Murder of a megathread, j'accuse

Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004
This is why digital media can't be trusted. :colbert:

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

It still blows my loving mind that Blu-Ray has been a format for literally 12 years now and there are people who don't know what it is/still haven't upgraded to a Blu-Ray player/still buy DVDs.

Like, I understand old people not being able to tell the difference between SD and HD (their eyes are loving broken), but still. Blu-Ray players are cheap as gently caress. Blu-Rays themselves are cheap as gently caress. You can probably get a standalone Blu-Ray player and a couple of your favorite movies on Blu-Ray for $50 or maybe a little more than that. You don't need an expensive game console to play them or anything like that.

If you're still buying physical media in 2018, it makes no sense to buy a movie on DVD over Blu-Ray at this point, but people are still doing it :psyduck:

I was asking about jumping on the UHD bandwagon recently in the last thread, and with the adoption rate of Blu-Ray, it makes sense why UHD would take forever to catch on.

Are there TVs being sold with built-in Blu-Ray players like those older TVs with built-in DVD players?

Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Apr 4, 2018

codyclarke
Jan 10, 2006

IDIOT SOUP

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

If you're still buying physical media in 2018, it makes no sense to buy a movie on DVD over Blu-Ray at this point, but people are still doing it :psyduck:

When it comes to new stuff, absolutely. But it's a buyer's market when it comes to used DVDs these days. I regularly find Like New condition used DVDs out in the wild for like $1 or $2, and if it's not some gorgeous movie where I wanna see it as great as it can possibly look, I'll pick it up. Plus, I have more nostalgia for DVDs than Blu-Rays. Currently I'm obsessed with DVDs that have SPECIAL EDITION in a bar across the top of the cover, usually white text on red. I also love when it has W I D E S C R E E N in black on a gold bar across the top. It's stuff I never though I'd get nostalgic over, but nowadays whenever I see it it makes me smile. Oh, and snapcases! If it's a movie I love and it's a snapcase in great condition, you better believe I'm picking it up.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

It still blows my loving mind that Blu-Ray has been a format for literally 12 years now and there are people who don't know what it is/still haven't upgraded to a Blu-Ray player/still buy DVDs.

Like, I understand old people not being able to tell the difference between SD and HD (their eyes are loving broken), but still. Blu-Ray players are cheap as gently caress. Blu-Rays themselves are cheap as gently caress. You can probably get a standalone Blu-Ray player and a couple of your favorite movies on Blu-Ray for $50 or maybe a little more than that. You don't need an expensive game console to play them or anything like that.

If you're still buying physical media in 2018, it makes no sense to buy a movie on DVD over Blu-Ray at this point, but people are still doing it :psyduck:

I was asking about jumping on the UHD bandwagon recently in the last thread, and with the adoption rate of Blu-Ray, it makes sense why UHD would take forever to catch on.

Are there TVs being sold with built-in Blu-Ray players like those older TVs with built-in DVD players?

A lot of people still think blu-rays are expensive. Also, some people are just garbage people.

Boinks
Nov 24, 2003



I just dumped my old Nightmare on Elm St and Friday the 13th DVD sets because I bought the Blu ray sets. At a fraction of the price of what the DVDs cost 10 years ago too.

BTW Wal Mart has the new F13 blu ray set on the shelves for $29.99 if anyone missed the older one that's going for a couple hundred dollars now.

Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004

codyclarke posted:

When it comes to new stuff, absolutely. But it's a buyer's market when it comes to used DVDs these days. I regularly find Like New condition used DVDs out in the wild for like $1 or $2, and if it's not some gorgeous movie where I wanna see it as great as it can possibly look, I'll pick it up. Plus, I have more nostalgia for DVDs than Blu-Rays. Currently I'm obsessed with DVDs that have SPECIAL EDITION in a bar across the top of the cover, usually white text on red. I also love when it has W I D E S C R E E N in black on a gold bar across the top. It's stuff I never though I'd get nostalgic over, but nowadays whenever I see it it makes me smile. Oh, and snapcases! If it's a movie I love and it's a snapcase in great condition, you better believe I'm picking it up.

I find this even more unsettling than the resurgence of cassettes.

(Edit: Audio cassettes, that is, although I wouldn't be surprised if VHS is next.)

Liar Lyre
Jun 3, 2011

Here to deliver
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Boinks posted:

I just dumped my old Nightmare on Elm St and Friday the 13th DVD sets because I bought the Blu ray sets. At a fraction of the price of what the DVDs cost 10 years ago too.

BTW Wal Mart has the new F13 blu ray set on the shelves for $29.99 if anyone missed the older one that's going for a couple hundred dollars now.

Only problem with the new set is it doesn’t contain Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X. The old set is the only way so far to get those two on Blu.

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT

CPL593H posted:

A lot of people still think blu-rays are expensive. Also, some people are just garbage people.

Truth. I got screamed at last week because the only way to get The Last Jedi on DVD was to buy a limited edition Blu Ray. At least they didn’t ask me to “just sell them the DVD at half price”. The latter happens far more than you’d hope.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich
This is a nice new thread. Is it possible to get a digital media thread about stuff like newest netflix poo poo and itune uploads. Mostly since I buy physical for movies, but prefer the tv show side of digital.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
I still have a bunch of DVDs I'll probably never bother upgrading. Don't @ me.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Daniel Bryan posted:

Truth. I got screamed at last week because the only way to get The Last Jedi on DVD was to buy a limited edition Blu Ray. At least they didn’t ask me to “just sell them the DVD at half price”. The latter happens far more than you’d hope.

Well, part of that was probably how overpriced Disney/Marvel/Star Wars stuff always tends to be when its first released. Most normal movies you can find for 17.99 or maybe 22.99 max, but of course for Star Wars they want 27.99 and that price isn't dropping for months.

I like still having the option to grab a cheap DVD because I love old horror movies and westerns, so there are tons of those that haven't made their way to blu ray yet but they're still perfectly watchable on DVD.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
UHD sounds too much like UMD

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

I'm writing up some stuff about boutique labels (like Criterion and Arrow).


On that note, Shout! Factory just confirmed they're working on a collector's edition of In the Mouth of Madness.



and 2001: A Space Odyssey UHD has been delayed from May 8 to September.

gey muckle mowser
Aug 5, 2003

Do you know anything about...
witches?



Buglord

TheScott2K posted:

I still have a bunch of DVDs I'll probably never bother upgrading. Don't @ me.

Same. I occasionally will upgrade if it's a movie I really love, but I still own hundreds of DVDs and honestly most look perfectly fine to me. Sure a blu-ray would be better, but do I really need Ghoulies 2 in HD?

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
On a scale of 0 to Don't loving Do That, how wrong of me would it be to, say, put my Fight Club Blu-ray with its shameful cover art in that rad special edition DVD packaging?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Is throwing away slipcovers a bannable offense? Asking for a friend.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
Wait are we not all just putting the discs in binders and throwing everything else away?

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I don't think it's that odd when people throw away those basic blue cases that every blu ray comes in, I get that. But if you're spending money on the stuff that's designed more for collectors(Criterion, steelbooks, nicer box sets) then I don't understand why you wouldn't want to have them on a nice little shelf in your living room.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
My kids are gonna be so confused when they're not toddlers anymore and the physical media comes back out of its hiding places.

They'll also be confused about the spines of the Fast and Furious movies and why they're so close to going together yet so far.

TheScott2K fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Apr 4, 2018

gey muckle mowser
Aug 5, 2003

Do you know anything about...
witches?



Buglord
when I got the Vengeance trilogy blu-rays I threw away the outer box and shelved them separately by title :twisted:

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

gey muckle mowser posted:

when I got the Vengeance trilogy blu-rays I threw away the outer box and shelved them separately by title :twisted:

I've done this before, because a lot of those outer boxes are just flimsy cardboard and the cases inside are the exact same ones they sell individually.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


I've been taking all the paper and disks out of the case, and throwing the case away. I get these sleeves from Amazon, and put them in a box (also from Amazon). I finished my DVD collection, and just kept going from there. I've long since run out of room to display all of them.




(Comparison of space saved by doing just the MCU films.)

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

IUG posted:

I've been taking all the paper and disks out of the case, and throwing the case away. I get these sleeves from Amazon, and put them in a box (also from Amazon). I finished my DVD collection, and just kept going from there. I've long since run out of room to display all of them.




(Comparison of space saved by doing just the MCU films.)



what the fu

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


IUG posted:

I've been taking all the paper and disks out of the case, and throwing the case away. I get these sleeves from Amazon, and put them in a box (also from Amazon). I finished my DVD collection, and just kept going from there. I've long since run out of room to display all of them.




(Comparison of space saved by doing just the MCU films.)



I just moved and packing the DVDs were a real pain in the rear end. Those look good, I'm now planning to switch over to DiscSox on all of my non Blu Ray stuff.

HFX
Nov 29, 2004

IUG posted:

I've been taking all the paper and disks out of the case, and throwing the case away. I get these sleeves from Amazon, and put them in a box (also from Amazon). I finished my DVD collection, and just kept going from there. I've long since run out of room to display all of them.




(Comparison of space saved by doing just the MCU films.)



I'll warn you as someone who did this with DVDs years ago. You are more likely to end up with damage that makes then unreadable than having them in a traditional / jewel case.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Half the appeal of having a nice movie collection for me is that I can go over the shelf and look at everything and choose something to watch that fits whatever mood I'm in at the moment. If they were all just stuffed in a box it'd be much less practical and satisfying to do that.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


mallratcal posted:

I just moved and packing the DVDs were a real pain in the rear end. Those look good, I'm now planning to switch over to DiscSox on all of my non Blu Ray stuff.

I couldn't get a straight price on those, so I assume they're expensive. This is what I use:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JR2V7C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$10 for 25 sleeves.

I also get these for my CD collection that I'm also breaking down, but I use them when there's more than 2 disks for a movie (good for TV shows):
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JJSQ58/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$12 for 60 sleeves.

Then I get this box to store them in:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EFJY3U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$12.

TheScott2K posted:

what the fu

I'm tired of looking at them. They take up too much space and I'm tired of buying furniture to store & display them.

HFX posted:

I'll warn you as someone who did this with DVDs years ago. You are more likely to end up with damage that makes then unreadable than having them in a traditional / jewel case.

My DVDs are all ripped to ISO files and on Kodi networked across my house. I don't need the DVDs anymore, and as soon as I can get enough store space, the blurays will be the same. The DVDs are also already starting to suffer disk rot, and I couldn't rip a few of them that have been in the cases for years prior to that.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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I glanced at the original OP for the previous thread, and feel we should keep this for old times sake

quote:

What kind of Blu-Ray player should you buy?
I can't say this strongly enough: get a Playstation 3

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

EL BROMANCE posted:

I glanced at the original OP for the previous thread, and feel we should keep this for old times sake

Or if you're really into the hobby, a region free player for around 140.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

MacheteZombie posted:

Or if you're really into the hobby, a region free player for around 140.

What is a good region free blu ray player? I bought Sony BDP-S3700 Region Free Blu-Ray Player from 220-electronics.com and it has trouble reading certain discs. Lots of skipping around on anything that isn't in pristine condition.

The Region 1 Sony I bought from BestBuy doesn't have this problem.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

SimonCat posted:

What is a good region free blu ray player? I bought Sony BDP-S3700 Region Free Blu-Ray Player from 220-electronics.com and it has trouble reading certain discs. Lots of skipping around on anything that isn't in pristine condition.

The Region 1 Sony I bought from BestBuy doesn't have this problem.

I have the Sony s5200 which goes for 140$ used/refurb on Amazon. I've had zero problems so far. I actually traded my ps3 in to pay for it haha.

It's not 4k but is 3d (if you are into 3d)

I don't know of any good region free 4k players.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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MacheteZombie posted:

Or if you're really into the hobby, a region free player for around 140.

I was just joking that that was the most insanely out of date advice ever.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

SimonCat posted:

What is a good region free blu ray player? I bought Sony BDP-S3700 Region Free Blu-Ray Player from 220-electronics.com and it has trouble reading certain discs. Lots of skipping around on anything that isn't in pristine condition.

The Region 1 Sony I bought from BestBuy doesn't have this problem.

I got the Sony S5200 from Multisystem Electronics on Amazon. Only discs I've had problems with are a few early (2006-2007) Blus.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

EL BROMANCE posted:

I was just joking that that was the most insanely out of date advice ever.

Haha my bad, I still see people recommend consoles as bluray players, which is fine if you want to play console games and have no use for region free.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


EL BROMANCE posted:

I was just joking that that was the most insanely out of date advice ever.

Change it to Xbox one s so the joke can still be that a good player is still a games console.

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

MacheteZombie posted:

Haha my bad, I still see people recommend consoles as bluray players, which is fine if you want to play console games and have no use for region free.

My Xbox will not interact with the menus on Twilight Time discs.

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